Gallup says LGBTs could swing US election A new report says the votes of LGBT Americans could push President Obama over the line into a second term in a narrow election

  • metta

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    Oct 27, 2012 7:37 AM GMT
    Gallup says LGBTs could swing US election

    A new report says the votes of LGBT Americans could push President Obama over the line into a second term in a narrow election


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/gallup-says-lgbts-could-swing-us-election271012


    I never thought this was possible but I would <3 this to really happen. That would stop Republicans from throwing us aside as if we did not matter.....anymore!
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    Oct 27, 2012 12:50 PM GMT
    This, of course, is part of the genius of the Dems adopting the gay marriage issue into the platform. They knew darned well what our percentage meant at the polls. Between us, the women and the Latino/a vote, it's probably a wrap.

    And remember, we're only being told what the orchestrated media wants us to believe, including the skewed poll numbers.

    Vote early. Don't risk your polling place being closed, inaccessible or too crowded for your timeframe.
  • rnch

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    Oct 27, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
    I suspect that President Obama's victory numbers will be much larger than expected.



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    Oct 27, 2012 1:25 PM GMT
    Lets Hope that this isn't a case of missed votes cause the gays who got this news didn't vote cause they expected others to have already made their vote.
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    Oct 27, 2012 1:56 PM GMT
    LOL, the democrat joke is on liberal gays who want nanny state benefits.

    Within 10 years there will be a prenatal test to determine if a woman will have a gay baby.

    Who do you think will abort their gay babies:

    Democrats who support abortion

    or

    Republicans who are prolife.

    Lets look at what already happens with Down Syndrome babies:

    In the United States a number of studies have examined the abortion rate of fetuses with Down syndrome. Three studies estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and 87% respectively.

    In the future, the % of the population that is gay will likely decrease.
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:17 PM GMT
    Do you really think that religious conservatives who find out their baby is "an abomination" won't find scriptures that justify aborting the baby? If they are already telling their teenage children that they are dead to them and kicking them out of their homes what makes you think they will actually care about their gay baby?

    Who do you think is more likely to panic when finding out their baby is gay, liberals who already support gay rights with increasing numbers or conservative parents who stood out in the heat for hours at Chick-Fil-A?
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    mx5guynj saidLOL, the democrat joke is on liberal gays who want nanny state benefits.

    Within 10 years there will be a prenatal test to determine if a woman will have a gay baby.

    Who do you think will abort their gay babies:

    Democrats who support abortion

    or

    Republicans who are prolife.

    Lets look at what already happens with Down Syndrome babies:

    In the United States a number of studies have examined the abortion rate of fetuses with Down syndrome. Three studies estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and 87% respectively.

    In the future, the % of the population that is gay will likely decrease.
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:19 PM GMT
    You can't argue with ignorance. Best to just ignore it. Maybe he will just disappear?


    Myol saidDo you really think that religious conservatives who find out their baby is "an abomination" won't find scriptures that justify aborting the baby? If they are already telling their teenage children that they are dead to them and kicking them out of their homes what makes you think they will actually care about their gay baby?

    Who do you think is more likely to panic when finding out their baby is gay, liberals who already support gay rights with increasing numbers or conservative parents who stood out in the heat for hours at Chick-Fil-A?
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    mx5guynj saidLOL, the democrat joke is on liberal gays who want nanny state benefits.

    Within 10 years there will be a prenatal test to determine if a woman will have a gay baby.

    Who do you think will abort their gay babies:

    Democrats who support abortion

    or

    Republicans who are prolife.

    Lets look at what already happens with Down Syndrome babies:

    In the United States a number of studies have examined the abortion rate of fetuses with Down syndrome. Three studies estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and 87% respectively.

    In the future, the % of the population that is gay will likely decrease.
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    Here is copy/pasted an email I sent off to the daughter of my friend who nearly exploded my head the other night. (I used Paulflex's long/short answer of no/noooo for my first time, I love that, it fit in perfectly). The cross-to-bear reference was what my brother said while spending an hour calming me down after that initial conversation. The Mandela reference was in response to my friend (the daughter--she used to reference in her last email) telling me that her mom only wants me to be able to be free in my own mind, as if I am lacking some understanding of consciousness. Here it goes.....

    You write beautifully and you’ve good thoughts. But I need tweek a few things if you do not mind.

    A cross to bear is something we do to ourselves or an aspect inherent to ourselves, those things we can not change but must learn to live with. PTSD is a cross to bear. If we are deformed, that might be our cross to bear. We we have a disease, we bury a loved one, living with that sorrow is our cross to bear. But someone hitting you over the head with a cross is not your cross to bear. That’s just someone hitting you over the head with a cross. They’re very different things. And it is a cop-out to call that a cross to bear because it says that your hitting me over the head with a your cross is my problem that I am required to bear. Well here’s my short answer to that: no. Here’s my long answer: noooooooooo; that’s not my cross to bear. If there’s any cross to bear there it’s me figuring out how to rip that cross out of your hand while your hitting me over the head with it and then shoving that cross up your ass. And that’s not even a cross to bear. That’s just strategizing.

    Honestly _____, I was stunned by some of the things your mother said. I get that I need to keep in mind that she is deteriorating. Not being around her much, that was not in my mind at the time. I apologize for that. But it was like getting sucker punched with a left hook. She caught me completely off guard. I thought I was talking to a democrat and we were even discussing avoiding political conversation with republicans when all this erupted. And all I did was tell her that I avoid it as much as I can but that I will not allow my friends to vote without them knowing what their vote means to me. I do have an obligation to not be silent on this. They can vote however the fuck they please, obviously. But what your mother said was that it wrong for me to put into their conscience that their vote oppresses me. She said to me that means I’m oppressing them. That’s exactly what the catholics do. Oh you won’t let me proselytize to you so therefore you are oppressing me. Bullshit.

    She’s telling me that it’s wrong to inform a friend that their knife is in my back. And this isn’t just any issue, ____. This is my human rights. 55 years without them. I am tired of this shit. Your mother was trying to silence me on my human rights. When did Mandela go silent? Free in his mind? Yeah, he probably wasn’t pissed off at all. That I should live their oppression as my cross to bear is what your mother wanted. It is easier than her and my friends fighting for me. For you to give up your marriage rights while I don’t have mine. Most all of you who have your rights, as well as our naïve & gay uncle Toms, ya all do it; you just did it here in suggesting I should be happy living my life in oppression. What in the world have I ever said during all the years that any of you have known me which would indicate that I would be okay with that? Long answer Nooooooooo. They don’t get my blessing to oppress me. I don’t have a blessing for that. I only have disgust for that and I’m going to express it. I would be in the wrong if I did not. And certainly if I and others remained silent no change would ever occur. You know me ____, I would never initiate the harm that they do to me by blocking my human rights or by trying to silence me on that. I would fight for them hadn’t they their human rights. They are my friends.
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:10 PM GMT
    Well of course! Obama has all minorities under his belt. And most Ron Paul voters like myself. His getting my gay, Latino and Ron Paul vote.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 27, 2012 3:13 PM GMT
    rnch saidI suspect that President Obama's victory numbers will be much larger than expected.



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    I suspect you may be in for a rude awakening. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    But then Obama decided to let his election slip away on TMZ!
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidLOL, the democrat joke is on liberal gays who want nanny state benefits.

    Within 10 years there will be a prenatal test to determine if a woman will have a gay baby.

    Who do you think will abort their gay babies:

    Democrats who support abortion

    or

    Republicans who are prolife.

    Lets look at what already happens with Down Syndrome babies:

    In the United States a number of studies have examined the abortion rate of fetuses with Down syndrome. Three studies estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and 87% respectively.

    In the future, the % of the population that is gay will likely decrease.


    You must have a strange relationship with your mom, if you actually think that women will start aborting their babies just because they're gay.

    Regardless, you're wrong about your assessment. Prospective parents may be able to pick eye color and/or gender, but scientists don't know how to effect a person's sexuality, either in utero, or in life.

    Women who want children will have children; women who don't want children shouldn't be forced to by misogynistic men.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 27, 2012 3:27 PM GMT
    metta8 saidGallup says LGBTs could swing US election


    This may be true, but this could swing the election in either direction if it is. Is Gallup assuming that LGBT votes are all going to Obama? Because clearly they are not. What will swing this election is the female vote, and I'm betting that the election results will reveal a far larger number of women voting for Romney than anyone expected.
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:54 PM GMT
    The swing is our friends voting for us. We don't require the vote of our gay uncle toms.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:02 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidLOL, the democrat joke is on liberal gays who want nanny state benefits.

    Within 10 years there will be a prenatal test to determine if a woman will have a gay baby.

    Who do you think will abort their gay babies:

    Democrats who support abortion

    or

    Republicans who are prolife.

    Lets look at what already happens with Down Syndrome babies:

    In the United States a number of studies have examined the abortion rate of fetuses with Down syndrome. Three studies estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and 87% respectively.

    In the future, the % of the population that is gay will likely decrease.


    W T F ?
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:27 PM GMT
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    mx5guynj saidLOL, the democrat joke is on liberal gays who want nanny state benefits.

    Within 10 years there will be a prenatal test to determine if a woman will have a gay baby.

    Who do you think will abort their gay babies:

    Democrats who support abortion

    or

    Republicans who are prolife.

    Lets look at what already happens with Down Syndrome babies:

    In the United States a number of studies have examined the abortion rate of fetuses with Down syndrome. Three studies estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and 87% respectively.

    In the future, the % of the population that is gay will likely decrease.


    W T F ?


    I know, I know. This is flame bait, pure and simple. I had actually written a reply, but realized myself sinking to an unfathomable level of ignorance by even considering a reply and then deleted it. What a joy to get to click "ignore his posts."
  • TheBizMan

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    Oct 27, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    metta8 saidGallup says LGBTs could swing US election


    This may be true, but this could swing the election in either direction if it is. Is Gallup assuming that LGBT votes are all going to Obama? Because clearly they are not. What will swing this election is the female vote, and I'm betting that the election results will reveal a far larger number of women voting for Romney than anyone expected.


    Well curioschicken, the majority of the gay votes WILL go to Obama. Face it you are an extreme minority among gays. You always will be based on the way you vote and think, You've made it clear that you don't care about that, so, whatever.

    There may be more woman voting for Romney than expected, but it will still pale in comparison to the amount voting for Obama.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    Most of the gays I know here are voting Romey, oh and Obama just said he will not be pushing gay marriage if he is elected to a second term so....more "change" you probably shouldn't believe in?
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    smudgetool said I had actually written a reply, but realized myself sinking to an unfathomable level of ignorance by even considering a reply and then deleted it. What a joy to get to click "ignore his posts."


    Hysterical. I did the exact same.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
    7Famark saidMost of the gays I know here are voting Romey, oh and Obama just said he will not be pushing gay marriage if he is elected to a second term so....more "change" you probably shouldn't believe in?


    I wouldn't be surprised that the gays you know are voting for Romney.

    Obama realizes that he cannot push this hot button issue any further this close to the election. You can keep trying to twist the facts and make it seem as though Obama is against gay rights issues. He's done more than any president, and will continue to do so if elected again.

    Romney, simply wont.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:46 PM GMT
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    7Famark saidMost of the gays I know here are voting Romey, oh and Obama just said he will not be pushing gay marriage if he is elected to a second term so....more "change" you probably shouldn't believe in?


    I wouldn't be surprised that the gays you know are voting for Romney.

    Obama realizes that he cannot push this hot button issue any further this close to the election. You can keep trying to twist the facts and make it seem as though Obama is against gay rights issues. He's done more than any president, and will continue to do so if elected again.

    Romney, simply wont.


    You are certainly free to have that belief. But, when he doesn't follow through, try not to be too surprised. Oh and I haven't taken a dig at you, so retract the claws.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:53 PM GMT
    7Famark saidMost of the gays I know here are voting Romey, oh and Obama just said he will not be pushing gay marriage if he is elected to a second term so....more "change" you probably shouldn't believe in?


    I didn't expect Obama to push gay marriage. I expect a return to the same ol' economic policies which brewed this economic flu we're in now...if Romney is elected. From what I've heard of Romney's personality, he is just as gung ho and arrogant as Bush. The way he keeps hammering on about the perceived weakness of American foreign policy, he might just be as unilateral as Bush...and we all remember what a darling HE was with the global community.
    Plus, he can't be pinned down on what he stands for. That's not leadership. Either he has trouble saying what he means, or he doesn't mean what he says. He doesn't have the integrity necessary to get my vote.
    There is NO way I could vote for that turkey.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:58 PM GMT
    7Famark saidMost of the gays I know here are voting Romey, oh and Obama just said he will not be pushing gay marriage if he is elected to a second term so....more "change" you probably shouldn't believe in?



    I actually know more gays voting for Romney than I know gays voting for Obama. Their vote has nothing whatsoever to do with "The Gay". People who base their vote on all things gay are certainly entitled to do that, but they shouldn't begrudge others who don't.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 27, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
    theantijock saidThe swing is our friends voting for us. We don't require the vote of our gay uncle toms.


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    Oct 27, 2012 5:09 PM GMT
    7Famark saidMost of the gays I know here are voting Romey, oh and Obama just said he will not be pushing gay marriage if he is elected to a second term so....more "change" you probably shouldn't believe in?


    Our human rights will eventually be decided by court, not by president, so your criticism on this is worthless. Even the notion that a person can give us our rights is debasing to those rights. But the president appoints the judges who will hear our case. Do you seriously think he would appoint homophobic justices like Scuzlia? Do you seriously think he will try to diminish our rights with constitutional amendments and such. So we are stuck in this disgusting process. Your misguided support only makes it worse than it has to be.

    We are not voting for a person. We are voting for an idea. And you have no way to fight that. We will prevail. And you will benefit by that. Because we do not want you to live degraded without your human rights as we have been forced to live for all these decades, centuries, millennia. Sorry if our trying to improve your life makes you unhappy.

    "There exists an obvious fact that seems utterly moral; namely, that a man is always a prey to his truths. Once he has admitted them, he cannot free himself from them."~~Albert Camus

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