When someone says they have an "eclectic background"...

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    Oct 30, 2012 6:07 PM GMT
    ...When asked in the context of past careers...It really means their life has been a directionless mass of aimlessness, and in the vernacular, that they are a loser still without the remotest clue as to what they want.

    God I swear if I hear another person use that term again...ugh.

    Rantover.
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    Oct 31, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
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    But I do. I do have an eclectic background. D: Martha Stuart kept me in a cage and she... and she...

    SHE TAUGHT ME BASKET WEAVING. icon_cry.gif
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    ParadiseLost saidBut I do. I do have an eclectic background. D: Martha Stuart kept me in a cage and she... and she...

    SHE TAUGHT ME BASKET WEAVING. icon_cry.gif

    She taught my cooking and table setting! icon_cry.gif
  • stratavos

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    Oct 31, 2012 1:00 PM GMT
    JR_RJ said
    ParadiseLost saidBut I do. I do have an eclectic background. D: Martha Stuart kept me in a cage and she... and she...

    SHE TAUGHT ME BASKET WEAVING. icon_cry.gif

    She taught my cooking and table setting! icon_cry.gif


    <.<

    >.>

    I still look over her crafty decorative items (for festive events) and think "that'd be nice"
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    Oct 31, 2012 1:14 PM GMT
    There are always people who will view a successful human life as a confined, narrow set of check-boxes rigidly constructed from the expectations of everyone who has gone before.

    No one who created something good and new followed that path.

    I wouldn't say I'm destined to create something good and new, but I certainly wouldn't much value the judgement of an A-type corporate man that had all his ducks in a row. If someone told me they had an "eclectic background" I would try to see if they had learned something from their varied trajectory, instead of dismissing it as a waste.

    It may be that someone at the end of that wandering may come to the very same corporate work that someone else entered 20 years ago. But that does not mean that he has accrued no other valuable commodities.

    I've asked a lot of people, and many that devoted themselves wholly to successful careers (engineering, law, accounting, financial management) making decent or amazing money hate their lives, hate their jobs, and always wonder what they missed. Most can't wait to retire, so they can start living. I'd rather live before I retire.

    My goal is to find the perfect occupation that allows me the financial means to experience the whole world, engage my intellectual faculties, and not fucking dump on my fellow humans.
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    stratavos said
    JR_RJ said
    ParadiseLost saidBut I do. I do have an eclectic background. D: Martha Stuart kept me in a cage and she... and she...

    SHE TAUGHT ME BASKET WEAVING. icon_cry.gif

    She taught my cooking and table setting! icon_cry.gif


    <.<

    >.>

    I still look over her crafty decorative items (for festive events) and think "that'd be nice"


    Ohhh the HORRORS. yellow-onion-head-emoticon-41.gif?130192

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    Most people see a sweet innocent white lady when they look at her...

    But all I see is pure evil.

    She... taught me how to fold my shirt in less than three seconds, neatly, and... then to sew my ripped jeans.

    EVIL!! *Runs into JR's arms and sobs*

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  • calibro

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    Oct 31, 2012 3:50 PM GMT
    it means they were once a stripper, a porn star, or worked in politics
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    Nov 05, 2012 5:32 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    mocktwinkles said...When asked in the context of past careers...It really means their life has been a directionless mass of aimlessness, and in the vernacular, that they are a loser still without the remotest clue as to what they want.

    God I swear if I hear another person use that term again...ugh.

    Rantover.

    You are, as ever, amazingly full of shit.


    Why does your compliment feel so shitty?
  • kevmoran

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    Nov 05, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
    redacting saidThere are always people who will view a successful human life as a confined, narrow set of check-boxes rigidly constructed from the expectations of everyone who has gone before.


    +1
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    redacting saidThere are always people who will view a successful human life as a confined, narrow set of check-boxes rigidly constructed from the expectations of everyone who has gone before.

    No one who created something good and new followed that path.

    I wouldn't say I'm destined to create something good and new, but I certainly wouldn't much value the judgement of an A-type corporate man that had all his ducks in a row. If someone told me they had an "eclectic background" I would try to see if they had learned something from their varied trajectory, instead of dismissing it as a waste.

    It may be that someone at the end of that wandering may come to the very same corporate work that someone else entered 20 years ago. But that does not mean that he has accrued no other valuable commodities.

    I've asked a lot of people, and many that devoted themselves wholly to successful careers (engineering, law, accounting, financial management) making decent or amazing money hate their lives, hate their jobs, and always wonder what they missed. Most can't wait to retire, so they can start living. I'd rather live before I retire.

    My goal is to find the perfect occupation that allows me the financial means to experience the whole world, engage my intellectual faculties, and not fucking dump on my fellow humans.


    This thread wasn't asking for epistles or details -- just for people to some times figure out what the hell they're looking for.
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    Nov 05, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles said
    Aristoshark said
    mocktwinkles said...When asked in the context of past careers...It really means their life has been a directionless mass of aimlessness, and in the vernacular, that they are a loser still without the remotest clue as to what they want.

    God I swear if I hear another person use that term again...ugh.

    Rantover.

    You are, as ever, amazingly full of shit.


    Why does your compliment feel so shitty?


    While your point might usually be correct and even insightful, you phrase it in such harsh and negative language that it was bound to elicit the kind of comments that you don't appreciate. Although, I have to concede that your basic premise is usually true, I personally know of many highly successful people for whom it isn't true. For example, I know one man in his sixties who is a musician, artist, and even occasional race car driver. You might be inclined to leap at the example and say, "Aha! Loser!" Yet for three decades, he was also both a physician and professor of neuroradiology. Similarly many renaissance men, DaVinci not least among them, could only describe their interests as eclectic -- after all, that is the very definition of a renaissance man.
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    Nov 05, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    swimguychicago said
    mocktwinkles said
    Aristoshark said
    mocktwinkles said...When asked in the context of past careers...It really means their life has been a directionless mass of aimlessness, and in the vernacular, that they are a loser still without the remotest clue as to what they want.

    God I swear if I hear another person use that term again...ugh.

    Rantover.

    You are, as ever, amazingly full of shit.


    Why does your compliment feel so shitty?


    While your point might usually be correct and even insightful, you phrase it in such harsh and negative language that it was bound to elicit the kind of comments that you don't appreciate. Although, I have to concede that your basic premise is usually true, I personally know of many highly successful people for whom it isn't true. For example, I know one man in his sixties who is a musician, artist, and even occasional race car driver. You might be inclined to leap at the example and say, "Aha! Loser!" Yet for three decades, he was also both a physician and professor of neuroradiology. Similarly many renaissance men, DaVinci not least among them, could only describe their interests as eclectic -- after all, that is the very definition of a renaissance man.


    It was purposely meant to be incendiary, just for the hell of it. icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 05, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles said
    swimguychicago said
    mocktwinkles said
    Aristoshark said
    mocktwinkles said...When asked in the context of past careers...It really means their life has been a directionless mass of aimlessness, and in the vernacular, that they are a loser still without the remotest clue as to what they want.

    God I swear if I hear another person use that term again...ugh.

    Rantover.

    You are, as ever, amazingly full of shit.


    Why does your compliment feel so shitty?


    While your point might usually be correct and even insightful, you phrase it in such harsh and negative language that it was bound to elicit the kind of comments that you don't appreciate. Although, I have to concede that your basic premise is usually true, I personally know of many highly successful people for whom it isn't true. For example, I know one man in his sixties who is a musician, artist, and even occasional race car driver. You might be inclined to leap at the example and say, "Aha! Loser!" Yet for three decades, he was also both a physician and professor of neuroradiology. Similarly many renaissance men, DaVinci not least among them, could only describe their interests as eclectic -- after all, that is the very definition of a renaissance man.


    It was purposely meant to be incendiary, just for the hell of it. icon_smile.gif


    i do that all the time.
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    Nov 05, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
    swimguychicago said
    mocktwinkles said
    swimguychicago said
    mocktwinkles said
    Aristoshark said
    mocktwinkles said...When asked in the context of past careers...It really means their life has been a directionless mass of aimlessness, and in the vernacular, that they are a loser still without the remotest clue as to what they want.

    God I swear if I hear another person use that term again...ugh.

    Rantover.

    You are, as ever, amazingly full of shit.


    Why does your compliment feel so shitty?


    While your point might usually be correct and even insightful, you phrase it in such harsh and negative language that it was bound to elicit the kind of comments that you don't appreciate. Although, I have to concede that your basic premise is usually true, I personally know of many highly successful people for whom it isn't true. For example, I know one man in his sixties who is a musician, artist, and even occasional race car driver. You might be inclined to leap at the example and say, "Aha! Loser!" Yet for three decades, he was also both a physician and professor of neuroradiology. Similarly many renaissance men, DaVinci not least among them, could only describe their interests as eclectic -- after all, that is the very definition of a renaissance man.


    It was purposely meant to be incendiary, just for the hell of it. icon_smile.gif


    i do that all the time.


    And just knowing that a lot of people on this board have probably said it, made it quite fun.
  • DiverScience

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    Nov 05, 2012 5:51 PM GMT
    Sounds like you've figured out what you're looking for, congratulations!

    But your premise does not necessitate your conclusion. Simply because you find "wandering" or "non-traditional" paths to be undesirable does not mean either that they are "directionless" or that the people on them are "losers."

    There are a thousand paths through life, and most of them aren't right for you, but they might be right for someone else.

    I have had a very clear career path for most of my life. In the past 5 years, that path has suddenly changed, not because I'm stupid but because my priorities and desires have changed.

    Me? I want some stability, I don't like to switch around jobs/etc. But I have friends who find great fulfillment and happiness in being a Jack-of-All-Trades even in employment (I just do it in hobbies).

    The fact that it isn't for me or you doesn't invalidate it as a worthwhile path for others.
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    Nov 05, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
    redacting saidThere are always people who will view a successful human life as a confined, narrow set of check-boxes rigidly constructed from the expectations of everyone who has gone before.


    The rosy praise of living life as you see fit isn't attractive when someone is driving a 15 year old beater Honda, living in a basement apartment, and considers Olive Garden to be a big spendy night out. That isn't my case but just an stereotyping example...

    I'm unemployed at present and although I have dreams of starting my own business I'm starting to see the reality that potentially wasting years living in near poverty while trying to build my own career might not be as grand as just getting another numbing desk job where I can afford to vacation often and live in nicer quarters after I boot lick and play the office game well enough.

    Failed self-starters are a dime a dozen. I really can't warm up to any more idealism when I'm just getting by with a part time job and unemployment checks.
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    Nov 05, 2012 6:44 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    mocktwinkles said...When asked in the context of past careers...It really means their life has been a directionless mass of aimlessness, and in the vernacular, that they are a loser still without the remotest clue as to what they want.

    God I swear if I hear another person use that term again...ugh.

    Rantover.

    You are, as ever, amazingly full of shit.


    It´s cos he´s so talentless that he can´t imagine someone being able to do more than one thing
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    Nov 05, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
    Not_Superman saidChances are they are interesting and can have a conversation that doesn't make you fall asleep.



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    Nov 05, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
    Or you're just West Indian
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    Nov 23, 2012 6:54 PM GMT
    They've tried a lot of kinky sexual things in bed over the years; and/or mix clothing brands??
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    Nov 23, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
    It's a polite way of saying that they just got out of jail...
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    Nov 23, 2012 7:12 PM GMT
    calibro saidit means they were once a stripper, a porn star, or worked in politics


    I once dated a Guy who did all three at once.

    Dude was HOT.
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    Nov 23, 2012 7:14 PM GMT
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    calibro saidit means they were once a stripper, a porn star, or worked in politics


    I once dated a Guy who did all three at once.

    Dude was HOT.
    A New Yorker? If so, I could get used to living there, for sure. icon_cool.gificon_wink.gif