vegetarians??

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    Nov 01, 2012 4:50 AM GMT
    are there any vegetarians on here? Lately i noticed that meat makes up such a small percent of my daily diet im curious to try a vegetarian diet and see if i even notice. I am lactose intolerant, i hate fish, i cant digest red meat fully so i can only eat small amounts of it. So when/if i do eat meat its either chicken or shelfish. Im not sure whether to go vegetarian or try to increase my meat intake.
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    Nov 01, 2012 11:52 AM GMT
    Yep, there are several vegetarians on here.
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    Nov 01, 2012 1:06 PM GMT
    Raised by meat-eating family--parents who ate everything blood rare & brother who would eat anything that's ever lived; he's so gross--I was never comfortable eating meat, ordering everything brought to me as a child well done. Seriously, burn it. I don't want to know what it was. I thought blood on a dinner plate was disgusting.

    But I got into the meat eating habit and didn't go mostly vegetarian until about 20 years ago in my 30s. I don't miss it one bite, but for wafts of barbecue. Now I only eat some fish on rare occasion, particularly when out with others and nothing else on the menu catches my eye.

    When I first gave it up I wasn't concerned if what I ate had meat broth in it but I've noticed that now if I taste it I won't eat it. Happened just the other day at a restaurant with lentil soup. They insisted it was vegetarian but I'm certain I tasted chicken broth and couldn't eat it.
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    Nov 01, 2012 1:13 PM GMT
    I was a vegetatrian for a year, was bad first two months I missed alot of vitamins(?) like and lost a stone and a half or almost 2stone, which I guess is 20pounds(?) but then eating healthy quorn meals really gave me back so much and it's better than tofu imo and I got all my protein etc in that stabilised my weight, but I did miss meat, but was only an experiment of a year to experience (:
    might do again soon but hoping to start back working out so not sure if be good idea
  • calibro

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    Nov 01, 2012 1:17 PM GMT
    there are many threads on this.
  • LJay

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    Nov 01, 2012 1:17 PM GMT
    Don't think I could go the strictly vegetarian route, certainly not embrace vegan politics, but it is true that we eat a lot of meat and that there are loads of opportunities out there in veggie land. If you are looking into it consider that you really should get your hands into some serious cooking so that you can really enjoy yourself. Poke around on some sites like Chow, TheKitchn, Epicurious. They are not vegetarian sites, but have a lot of ideas beyond carrot sticks and rice.
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    Nov 01, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    WorthTheEffort saidI was a vegetatrian for a year, was bad first two months I missed alot of vitamins(?) like and lost a stone and a half or almost 2stone, which I guess is 20pounds(?) but then eating healthy quorn meals really gave me back so much and it's better than tofu imo and I got all my protein etc in that stabilised my weight, but I did miss meat, but was only an experiment of a year to experience (:
    might do again soon but hoping to start back working out so not sure if be good idea


    Thanx for the reminder on Quorn. Really glad you mentioned it as I've relocated, my new local stores don't have it and I forgot about it. Just found it on their website at a store not terribly far from here.

    The problem with fake meats is cost. Morningstar facon is more than twice the cost of raising and slaughtering and processing and packaging a real live pig. It's a fucking rip off. I can't believe it has to be that expensive. I've been reading about a product I need to try called "beyond meat" which is supposed to be very good and priced at or below real meat. Haven't checked it out yet though.

    There was another item I liked but I think it's been ended called Veat. Haven't seen it in a while. Terrible name but itwas a good product.
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    Nov 01, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
    Vegan here, going on Year 12.

    If you're going to go veg, I strongly suggest doing some research on your own first, particularly on meeting nutritional requirements. So long as you account for your iron and B12 intake, you should make a healthy transition.

    There are plenty of good resources available. You can start with govegan.ca or goveg.org.

    Best wishes!
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    Nov 01, 2012 2:45 PM GMT

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  • Medjai

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    Nov 01, 2012 2:46 PM GMT
    Here's what you need to do if you're making a dietary change: see a dietitian. Since diet is the only source of life's building blocks, you need to make sure you are still supplying your body properly. Volume of food is a nonissue. It's the type of food that's important.

    You'll need guidance on what to eat, how to pair protein sources, since complete plant proteins are so rare, how to balance out macro and micronutrients, to support your lifestyle, etc. there are very few dietitians on this site, and those that are likely will not give proper advice unless in person.

    Coming here for clarification is fine, but when it comes to significant things, see a professional. They will be able to support you in doing this safely and correctly.
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    Nov 01, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    thanks everyone icon_biggrin.gif thats exactly the kind of advice i was looking for. I am in the process of alot of recent life changes and im moving and all sorts of crazy stuff. So i had decided that since everything else is changing, that when i get settled in again im going to start a new diet/work out ... The last one hasnt done much haha.
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    Nov 01, 2012 7:02 PM GMT
    Vegan here. Yes we exist.

    BTW, there's too much protein in the average person's diet, so don't worry about not getting enough. It may be nice for body building but it will age you faster.
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    Nov 01, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles saidVegan here. Yes we exist.


    totally !! being a Vegan is something like having a lifestyle, a classy one icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 01, 2012 7:55 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles saidVegan here. Yes we exist.

    BTW, there's too much protein in the average person's diet, so don't worry about not getting enough. It may be nice for body building but it will age you faster.


    YES!

    Vegan here too for the past 9 months, but I was a vegetarian from Jan 2008 up until 9 months ago.

    Mocktwinkles is very right. While some vitamin supplements are wise for vegans and vegetarians, protein is not an issue. Plus, you can always get protein powder and make drinks, seitan is a great meat substitute as far as texture goes, just find some delicious sauces. I find the key to an addictive and healthy meal is the sauce.

    My personal experience with the veggie/vegan diet is that I've put on significant amounts of muscle, added tons of definition that I never had before, lost 20 pounds, and I'm down to below 10% body fat. I also started paying WAY MORE attention to ingredients and as such I've given up essentially everything that isn't organic.
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    Nov 01, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles saidVegan here. Yes we exist.

    BTW, there's too much protein in the average person's diet, so don't worry about not getting enough. It may be nice for body building but it will age you faster.


    Sources, for both statements? Or is that just opinion and conjecture?
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    Nov 01, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
    I've been ovo-lacto vegetarian for more than half of my life and it was definitely the right choice for me. It does make being a gym junkie difficult because I have to rely on non-meat sources for my protein, but it's doable.

    Many vegetarians think that just cutting meat out of their diet is healthy. I did when I was first a vegetarian, but thankfully as time went on and I researched it better I found out how to supplement the nutrients and vitamins I wasn't getting. Just spend some time researching and you'll do fine.
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    Nov 01, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    mocktwinkles saidVegan here. Yes we exist.

    BTW, there's too much protein in the average person's diet, so don't worry about not getting enough. It may be nice for body building but it will age you faster.


    Sources, for both statements? Or is that just opinion and conjecture?


    Great, I just typed out an epistle and I lost it because it wanted me to log in. Dammit I hate this forum. I'll keep this short. While there is a lot of conflict in both the medical community and "alternative medicine" community and a lack of consummate scientific knowledge on many of these things, there seems to be a growing awareness that people are eating too much protein, especially when it is way above what the recommended amount is. Here's something on the matter from the Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/08/13/too-much-protein-diets-_n_1772987.html

    Here are some discussions...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120215123953.htm
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica-jones-ms-rd/protein-diet_b_1882372.htm

    I recommend a book called "Your Health, Your Choice" by Ted Morter. While I don't agree with everything he says he sure does have a seemingly cogent theory about the negative role of too much protein in the diet and how it directly affects the health adversely.
  • Medjai

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    Nov 01, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles said
    Medjai said
    mocktwinkles saidVegan here. Yes we exist.

    BTW, there's too much protein in the average person's diet, so don't worry about not getting enough. It may be nice for body building but it will age you faster.


    Sources, for both statements? Or is that just opinion and conjecture?


    Great, I just typed out an epistle and I lost it because it wanted me to log in. Dammit I hate this forum. I'll keep this short. While there is a lot of conflict in both the medical community and "alternative medicine" community and a lack of consummate scientific knowledge on many of these things, there seems to be a growing awareness that people are eating too much protein, especially when it is way above what the recommended amount is. Here's something on the matter from the Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/08/13/too-much-protein-diets-_n_1772987.html

    Here are some discussions...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120215123953.htm
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica-jones-ms-rd/protein-diet_b_1882372.htm

    I recommend a book called "Your Health, Your Choice" by Ted Morter. While I don't agree with everything he says he sure does have a seemingly cogent theory about the negative role of too much protein in the diet and how it directly affects the health adversely.


    Thanks for those. Most people don't answer when asked for sources.

    Here's a bit of advice. Although these types of things are cool for supplimentary info, do not base things on them like fact, as they are mostly opinion. If you want fact, ounce peer reviewed journal articles intead.
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    Nov 02, 2012 12:03 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    mocktwinkles said
    Medjai said
    mocktwinkles saidVegan here. Yes we exist.

    BTW, there's too much protein in the average person's diet, so don't worry about not getting enough. It may be nice for body building but it will age you faster.


    Sources, for both statements? Or is that just opinion and conjecture?


    Great, I just typed out an epistle and I lost it because it wanted me to log in. Dammit I hate this forum. I'll keep this short. While there is a lot of conflict in both the medical community and "alternative medicine" community and a lack of consummate scientific knowledge on many of these things, there seems to be a growing awareness that people are eating too much protein, especially when it is way above what the recommended amount is. Here's something on the matter from the Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/08/13/too-much-protein-diets-_n_1772987.html

    Here are some discussions...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120215123953.htm
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica-jones-ms-rd/protein-diet_b_1882372.htm

    I recommend a book called "Your Health, Your Choice" by Ted Morter. While I don't agree with everything he says he sure does have a seemingly cogent theory about the negative role of too much protein in the diet and how it directly affects the health adversely.


    Thanks for those. Most people don't answer when asked for sources.

    Here's a bit of advice. Although these types of things are cool for supplimentary info, do not base things on them like fact, as they are mostly opinion. If you want fact, ounce peer reviewed journal articles intead.


    I actually do rely on peer reviewed articles for the most part when forming opinions, but direct scientific observation is some times limited in scope as well because although it may be be able to identify a color in a painting, it's unable to see the picture because it can't stand back, if you will, and see all of the factors in play together... So some times we have to rely on sound theories...but I'm definitely an advocate of proof.
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    Nov 02, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
    ovo-lacto vegetarian and yes you can still put on muscle. Seems like a shocker to some when i tell them i'm vegetarian because of my size.
  • KJayasuriya

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    Nov 02, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    I have been experimenting with vegetarian food for several months. Some of the best dishes I made were vegetarian. As of today, I have decided to go vegetarian. I wrote a message on my Facebook announcing the big news. Here is what I posted:

    It is hard to imagine how my life was just a year ago. I was obese, had high blood pressure and was on the verge of developing type two diabetes. Since then I dropped forty pounds and yes... I am healthy. After years of eating meat, I am ready to make a major change in my eating habits. I understand that everyone has their own "philosophy" about food. Here is mine. A diet that is plant-based on fruits, vegetables & whole grains is not only healthier (as it can prevent diseases), but it can also be more tasty. In the past few months, I have experimented with several vegetarian dishes. I loved them so much that I feel I can eat that way for the rest of my life. Without further ado, I would like to announce that I am going vegetarian. Thank you everyone for taking the time to read this. I appreciate it very much! icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 02, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
    I am actually a lacto-vegetarian. For me it was really giving up meat and I haven't missed it since. icon_smile.gif