Did ya hear Palin talk about taxes...

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    Sep 04, 2008 3:04 AM GMT
    She went on about how Obama wants to raise taxes and asked how this would help people. But didnt mention that the Repubs who dont want to tax are paying for our government by borrowing. So we get to pay twice...at the time of spending and for the interest on the debt.

    Democrats: the people who brought you the surplus.

    Republicans: the people who brought you the greatest debt
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 04, 2008 3:16 AM GMT
    I heard..... it was outragious
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    Sep 04, 2008 3:37 AM GMT
    Either way, he wants to raise taxes for the rich, not the middle class. I'm not too worried. To the rich ones, it's your problem now - not mine. What do you plan on doing with the extra anyways? I know plenty I can do with my extra. Thanks for helping your country!!! icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 04, 2008 3:44 AM GMT
    and she has raised taxes herself while in her leadership positions.... hypocrit!
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    Sep 04, 2008 3:44 AM GMT
    Rudy said the same thing first. I'm pretty disgusted at that strategy the Repugs are bringing back.

    The Dems need to take the gloves off and tell the US people that the GOP is lying to them, and explain why. And after Palin's speech, there is free reign again to question her qualifications.

    God bless Jon Stewart--I just finished watching him document 3 complete flip-flops from republicans who support Palin for different issues, yet railed against the same qualities before regarding other women.
  • Paradigm_Shif...

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    Sep 04, 2008 3:45 AM GMT
    I just watched the entire Sarah Palin speech and it reminded me of a high school hissy fight where two girls see who can crack the best jokes against each other lol. She said something like, many people in the mainstream media doubt her experience, (she was a mayor of a small ass town in ALASKA!!!!!! lol). Then she said, "Being a Mayor is a lot like being a community organizer, but with ACTUAL responsibilities." Of course the entirely white crowd (except the ONE token black guy they kept showing every 5 minutes lol) went nuts and was all like "OHHHH SNAP!! lol"

    She spent the entire speech talking about her family, kids with special needs, oil & gas, business and investment income taxes, and McCain's war experience . Because absolutely NOTHING more important is facing our country right now. Not, Global Warming, Health Care, a Mortgage Crisis, a War in Iraq, College costs, Racial injustice and people just struggling to make it in life.

    Im sorry, its great that McCain got punched by some angry Vietnamese people 120 years ago, Im more interested in someone who can help ME today, and not just build a damn pipeline!!!! lol.

    Sorry had to get that out..

  • coolarmydude

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    Sep 04, 2008 3:47 AM GMT
    Wow! I didn't know rednecks lived in Alaska. Yeeeeee-haw.
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    Sep 04, 2008 3:50 AM GMT
    1969er saidRudy said the same thing first. I'm pretty disgusted at that strategy the Repugs are bringing back.

    The Dems need to take the gloves off and tell the US people that the GOP is lying to them, and explain why. And after Palin's speech, there is free reign again to question her qualifications.

    God bless Jon Stewart--I just finished watching him document 3 complete flip-flops from republicans who support Palin for different issues, yet railed against the same qualities before regarding other women.


    ROFL! I don't think I've ever seen Stewart that fired up before. Colbert took a swipe at him for cheating on his first wife with Cindy right after that.
  • Hunter9

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    Sep 04, 2008 3:51 AM GMT
    coolarmydude saidWow! I didn't know rednecks lived in Alaska. Yeeeeee-haw.


    im pretty sure its only rednecks that live in alaska... and ex-cons.

    she said that being a mayor has actual responsibilites unlike community organizing but doesnt bother to mention one responsibility that she actually had
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    Sep 04, 2008 3:58 AM GMT
    I remember having posted something about the GOP's b.s. about Obama and taxes. I didn't see Palin's speech, but can only imagine she's misrepresenting Obama's tax plan, yet again. Here's cited info on McCain vs. Obama's tax plans from my previous post - I hope its decipherable...

    Obama's tax plan would raise taxes on the wealthiest 5% of the population (read: $603,000 and up), while SIGNIFICANTLY reducing taxes for those of us who make less than $66K when compared to McCain's plan. Which demographic do you fall in, I wonder? I tried to cut and paste, and format, a table of numbers below for you to peruse - hopefully it is still coherent format-wise.

    From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/10/AR2008061003376.html
    McCain Camp Distorts Obama's Tax Policies, Exaggerates Their Adverse Impact

    Sen. John McCain's camp is attempting to convince Americans that their taxes will increase dramatically with Sen. Barack Obama as president. The presumptive Republican nominee has repeatedly said that Obama would enact "the largest tax increase since the Second World War." A surrogate for McCain, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, insists that Obama has not proposed "a single tax cut" and wants to "raise every tax in the book."


    AND from: http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/
    McCain: The average taxpayer in every income group would see a lower tax bill, but high-income taxpayers would benefit more than everyone else.

    Obama: High-income taxpayers would pay more in taxes, while everyone else's tax bill would be reduced. Those who benefit the most - in terms of reducing their taxes as a percentage of after-tax income - are in the lowest income groups.


    BREAKING DOWN THE NUMBERS
    Here's how the average tax bill could change in 2009 if either John McCain's or Barack Obama's tax proposals were fully in place.
    MCCAIN OBAMA
    Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
    Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
    $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
    $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
    $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
    $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
    $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
    $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
    $19K-$38K -$113 -$892
    Under $19K -$19 -$567
    Source:The Tax Policy Center
  • coolarmydude

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    Sep 04, 2008 4:12 AM GMT
    It's going to get real hot in the debates. McCain is a self-serving liar and Obama will call him on it.
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    Sep 04, 2008 6:17 AM GMT
    Ah yes taxes and lies .. here is the fib Palin told tonight along with the truth ..

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    speechPALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

    THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

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    Sep 04, 2008 6:46 AM GMT
    That speech was horrible and I couldn't stop laughing at how silly she made herself look.

    For the record, though, we don't have redecks here in Alaska.
    They're either called Valley Folk, Bushers, or Frontier Wonders.
    Calling someone a redneck here will get you dealt with in the worst way and yes there is difference. As for ex-cons go...this ain't the place to come to because it's too much like a prison. Mexico, Europe and Asia would definately better choices but I guess for those who have never been here WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.

  • Hunter9

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    Sep 04, 2008 7:17 AM GMT
    Guy101 said

    For the record, though, we don't have redecks here in Alaska.
    They're either called Valley Folk, Bushers, or Frontier Wonders.



    Ok, you can call them what you want... same idea though.
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    Sep 04, 2008 8:05 AM GMT
    Actually, there are a lot of gay people in Alaska, especially Lesbians.

    Hunter9 said
    coolarmydude saidWow! I didn't know rednecks lived in Alaska. Yeeeeee-haw.


    im pretty sure its only rednecks that live in alaska... and ex-cons.