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    Sep 04, 2008 5:45 PM GMT
    Just a funny observation... over the months on these political forums, i have noticed that Obama supporters can tell you why they think he should be president as well as defend him against attacks and speak to some of his appeal and accomplishments yet those against him just express the fact that they dont like him and state why they FEEL (although their feelings are inaccurate depictions of facts) a lot of times that he should not be president such as muslim, or inexperience and so forth but they never say why the other candidate would be better. why is that?
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    Sep 04, 2008 10:08 PM GMT
    Put your Pride aside, if you love the US of A. And Vote Republican.

    It's not what America can do for YOU.

    But.......What YOU can do for America; Vote Republican.

    Yes America needs YOU, and your vote.

    GO vote Republican.
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    Sep 04, 2008 10:19 PM GMT
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    Sep 04, 2008 10:21 PM GMT
    GobB saidJust a funny observation... over the months on these political forums, i have noticed that Obama supporters can tell you why they think he should be president as well as defend him against attacks and speak to some of his appeal and accomplishments yet those against him just express the fact that they dont like him and state why they FEEL (although their feelings are inaccurate depictions of facts)a lot of times that he should not be president such as muslim, or inexperience and so forth but they never say why the other candidate would be better. why is that?


    Because those against him are Republicans.
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    Sep 04, 2008 10:42 PM GMT
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    GobB saidJust a funny observation... over the months on these political forums, i have noticed that Obama supporters can tell you why they think he should be president as well as defend him against attacks and speak to some of his appeal and accomplishments yet those against him just express the fact that they dont like him and state why they FEEL (although their feelings are inaccurate depictions of facts)a lot of times that he should not be president such as muslim, or inexperience and so forth but they never say why the other candidate would be better. why is that?

    Because those against him are Republicans.

    Almost--there's that one twat who wants to vote for McCain just so he can vote for Clinton in 2012.
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    Sep 04, 2008 11:52 PM GMT
    Well for me its easy... I can talk about why I like Obama and since he represents my view... I can defend my viewpoints.

    With McCain and the Palin woman, the "experience argument" aside, I dislike the right wing viewpoint on all levels. I like McCain personally (and have no view on Palin).. I just dislike her views.
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    Sep 05, 2008 1:58 AM GMT
    Pattison said, "Put your Pride aside, if you love the US of A. And Vote Republican.

    It's not what America can do for YOU.

    But.......What YOU can do for America; Vote Republican.

    Yes America needs YOU, and your vote.

    GO vote Republican."



    Ummmm, words spoken by President John F. Kennedy, a DEMOCRAT.
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    Sep 05, 2008 2:42 AM GMT
    Pattison saidPut your Pride aside, if you love the US of A. And Vote Republican.

    It's not what America can do for YOU.

    But.......What YOU can do for America; Vote Republican.

    Yes America needs YOU, and your vote.

    GO vote Republican.


    Proving my point bud... why are u voting repub?
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    Sep 05, 2008 2:42 AM GMT
    At dinner before the 2004 election, everyone was saying why you shouldn't vote for Kerry. My mother asked "you're telling me I shouldn't vote for Kerry. Why should I vote for Bush?"

    Nobody had an answer.

    Republicans can never tell you why you should vote Repiblican because they don't think about why they vote Republican.

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    Sep 05, 2008 3:08 AM GMT
    Pardon the pun, but the republicans always were cashing in on black propaganda and scare tactics. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 05, 2008 3:35 AM GMT
    I can tell you why I am going to vote for McCain:
    1. I know where he stands on the issues that matter.
    2. He is against pork barrel projects that the federal government should sponsor or pay for.
    3. He is for finding all sources of energy, even developing new ones and using resources that our country has
    4. He is independent, not tied to special interest groups and goes against his own party
    5. He will do what Lincoln did, in appointing people of different political backgrounds to his cabinet, allowing for multiple voices to be heard.
    6. Smaller Federal Government, which will reduce the amount of money needed to fund it.
    7. He is for educational reform, although I disagree with him on some of the views, he is right that reform needs to be done.


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    Sep 05, 2008 3:48 AM GMT
    Let's face it people, there are ignorant Democrats too that only vote for the party for that reason just like some people will vote for Obama-Nation simply because he is black. Some will vote for Palin-Mrs. Alaska because she is a woman. They will vote for McCain because he is a veteran and so on and so on. Single issues is what most voters go for and almost never support a candidate 100%. I like some things about both parties but dislike things as well. That's how it is so get over it already, some of you are acting like Obama has already lost, what is all this fuss about really? Are we showing that we as Democrats can be as immature as kids in the 5th grade by making fun of a candidate and how she choses names for her children? Give it a rest, support your party by building it up and not by trying to tear the other one apart. If Democrats spent as much time promoting themselves as the time spent bashing the other party other people may be convinced to vote your way.
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    Sep 05, 2008 4:02 AM GMT
    Huzzah.
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    Sep 05, 2008 4:10 AM GMT
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    Sep 05, 2008 4:31 AM GMT
    thanks chizzad(s?). icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 05, 2008 4:34 AM GMT
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    Sep 05, 2008 4:49 AM GMT
    Funny that you observe that because I have seen the opposite. During the Democratic primaries and even after Obama locked up the nomination, many of my friends who support Obama say the "felt" that he was the better candidate. It is always that they "believed" in him, but they never really had, nor have today, any concrete reasons why.

    I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but I find that in order to vote for Obama you have to FEEL compelled by his message and his proclamation of change. His supporters appear to have a more emotional connection to him and I think that is why so many of them are much more vocal in their support for him than are McCain's supporters. To be perfectly honest, I sat watching the DNC as an undecided voter and not a single policy plan mentioned by Obama registered a noticeable reaction in me. Instead it was the emotional connection with Michelle, Hillary and Barack that made me even think about making my final decision.

    I don't mean to discredit GobB's observation at all, but I just wanted to say that I find it ironic that I have seen almost the completely opposite case.
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    Sep 06, 2008 6:34 AM GMT
    I don't hate Obama. I just hate his followers. They're just as bad as Bible thumping Jesus worshipers.
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    Sep 06, 2008 6:47 AM GMT
    GobB saidJust a funny observation... over the months on these political forums, i have noticed that Obama supporters can tell you why they think he should be president as well as defend him against attacks and speak to some of his appeal and accomplishments yet those against him just express the fact that they dont like him and state why they FEEL (although their feelings are inaccurate depictions of facts) a lot of times that he should not be president such as muslim, or inexperience and so forth but they never say why the other candidate would be better. why is that?


    I don't think Obama is near Muslim status. But there's no way in HELL I would ever vote a Muslim as president unless he has a good history of being a VERY secular Muslim. Why? Here's a few reasons:

    -Iran
    -Saudia Arabia
    -United Arab Emrites
    -Afghanistan
    -Palestine
    -Syria
    -Yemen
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    Sep 06, 2008 7:16 AM GMT
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    Sep 06, 2008 7:58 AM GMT
    i support obama, and i feel he is going to win the race to the white houseicon_cool.gif
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    Sep 06, 2008 9:17 AM GMT
    RyanH2O saidi support obama, and i feel he is going to win the race to the white houseicon_cool.gif


    you mean the half-white half-black house?

    giggity giggity giggity!
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    Sep 07, 2008 2:19 AM GMT
    Faze_change saidFunny that you observe that because I have seen the opposite. During the Democratic primaries and even after Obama locked up the nomination, many of my friends who support Obama say the "felt" that he was the better candidate. It is always that they "believed" in him, but they never really had, nor have today, any concrete reasons why.

    I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but I find that in order to vote for Obama you have to FEEL compelled by his message and his proclamation of change. His supporters appear to have a more emotional connection to him and I think that is why so many of them are much more vocal in their support for him than are McCain's supporters. To be perfectly honest, I sat watching the DNC as an undecided voter and not a single policy plan mentioned by Obama registered a noticeable reaction in me. Instead it was the emotional connection with Michelle, Hillary and Barack that made me even think about making my final decision.

    I don't mean to discredit GobB's observation at all, but I just wanted to say that I find it ironic that I have seen almost the completely opposite case.


    um bud, whether u like it or not, it is a concrete reason, obama resonates something in ur friend and it backs up what i originally said, he can tell u why he wants to vote for him whether its emotional or "concrete". those who support mccain, dont even say that, that they feel he will be better, they just say why u should not vote obama which is my whole point in this thread. so u havent observed the opposite, in fact u are validating what i said. thanks man.
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    Sep 07, 2008 2:53 AM GMT
    Coming from a country where being gay is legal and protected and gay marriage is (also legal!) an almost complete non-issue, to living in the USA where I could be denied housing or be fired from my job because I'm gay - I dont understand how anyone could vote to forward a party who wants to continue making you a second or third rate citizen!

    I will admit to being somewhat apathetic about the US political and economic system, its my belief and understanding that us little guys (that includes all of us - I would love to chat with anyone on this board who believes they've benefited, especially financially from the Bush administration!) are fucked from go.

    I'm not a huge Obama fan, but I am more inclined to believe his message than anyone fronting the Republican party. After 8 years of lies, murder, and continued assaults on our personal freedoms, all in the name of our safety, enough is enough!

    I am and always have been fearful of those who believe and are into anything 100%. The democrats are not perfect and not ideal, but I believe better than what the republicans have done and are willing and able to do for us.

    If anyone pro Republican has concrete, detailed reasoning/explanation for their views, please get back to me. I am open to seeing what positive things I've missed.

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    P.S. I'm actually a Green Party (http://www.gp.org) member, even though their attempts to push forward a presidential candidate is laughable and not even legally recognized in the state of Ohio. What can I say, they're bigger and more important outside of the US icon_smile.gif

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    Sep 07, 2008 3:01 AM GMT
    Chizzad saidLet's face it people, there are ignorant Democrats too that only vote for the party for that reason just like some people will vote for Obama-Nation simply because he is black. Some will vote for Palin-Mrs. Alaska because she is a woman. They will vote for McCain because he is a veteran and so on and so on. Single issues is what most voters go for and almost never support a candidate 100%. I like some things about both parties but dislike things as well. That's how it is so get over it already, some of you are acting like Obama has already lost, what is all this fuss about really? Are we showing that we as Democrats can be as immature as kids in the 5th grade by making fun of a candidate and how she choses names for her children? Give it a rest, support your party by building it up and not by trying to tear the other one apart. If Democrats spent as much time promoting themselves as the time spent bashing the other party other people may be convinced to vote your way.


    whoa where did that come from?