Increase of cycling in your city?

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    Nov 05, 2012 12:07 AM GMT

    The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) has just released data from the 2011 census showing that the number of people cycling in Australia continues to increase.

    Here's a little GIF to show the change in Melbourne:

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    As you can see, some communities are approaching 50% of work commutes being made on bikes.

    It would be great to see how your city is doing!

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    Nov 05, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    oh dear - gif fail icon_sad.gif

    http://chartingtransport.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/melb-bicycle-any-zoom.gif

    Don't worry - it looks just as good on the other side of the city! icon_cool.gif
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    Nov 05, 2012 2:44 AM GMT
    Here's an article I just came across on increase in cycling to work in the US.

    http://www.governing.com/blogs/by-the-numbers/bike-to-work-map-us-cities-census-data.html#.UIqcleqBKVg.facebook

    Here's the map:
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    Even though it's getting dark early, I'm going to try and ride home twice this week. I have a 25 mile commute, so I take the train into work and ride home when I can during the spring and summer months. I've been working 12 hour days for the last two months, so I haven't had a chance to do it since August. I get my life back after the election and need to get back into shape.
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    Nov 05, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
    It has definitely been increasing in San Francisco, and the mad cyclists keep running down and sometimes killing pedestrians.
  • Medjai

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    Nov 05, 2012 2:56 AM GMT
    Victoria has always been big on cycling. I'm okay with this.
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    Nov 05, 2012 3:07 AM GMT
    All the trainers at my gym seem pretty roided...

    ...oh wait not that kind of cycling
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    Nov 05, 2012 3:15 AM GMT
    I would love to ride a bike to work. But the distance if a bit far.
  • agro

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    Nov 05, 2012 4:33 AM GMT
    I guess it's really great that people are doing this but when you have to drive to work on a Saturday/Sunday morning it is not fun. Some of the cyclists can be really inconsiderate from a driver's perspective: having to drive 30 km/h through a 60 km/h road because the cyclists are spilling out of the cycling lane onto the main road isn't awesome icon_mad.gif
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    Nov 05, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    agro saidI guess it's really great that people are doing this but when you have to drive to work on a Saturday/Sunday morning it is not fun. Some of the cyclists can be really inconsiderate from a driver's perspective: having to drive 30 km/h through a 60 km/h road because the cyclists are spilling out of the cycling lane onto the main road isn't awesome icon_mad.gif


    What a curious comment to make.

    If you reverse your observation, you have the situation that cyclists face everyday with bikes being stuck behind cars in traffic , bike lane obstructed by parked cars.

    I mean no offence saying this but this is the attitude that hinders better city and road planning in the developed world = roads don't exist to only serve cars~ they serve pedestrians and cyclists too.
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    Nov 05, 2012 10:51 PM GMT
    Increase of cycling in your city?

    I love bicycling. I got my first derailleur bike in 1962, when they were very rare on US streets, the norm being tanky Schwinns. I was doing 60-mile rides when I was 13, a serious bicyclist for 50 years.

    But not here in South Florida. A few years ago when I picked up a new bike in Fort Lauderdale on a Friday night, the next Saturday morning I took it on a 40-mile memorial ride, for a bicyclist killed by a truck.

    And 2 years ago I was in a hospital ER with my partner, and watched a 15-year old boy brought in by medevac after being hit on his bike by a car. The ER staff worked on him for 30 minutes as I watched, doctors & nurses running everywhere, but they couldn't save him. A little while later his father arrived, the now-empty treatment room door shut behind him, alone with his dead son's body. A sight I will never forget.

    Cycling in South Florida is deadly. The road structure here will never allow bicycling to become a common means of transport, nor will the attitude of drivers ever change, who see bikes as an annoyance.
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    Nov 05, 2012 10:55 PM GMT
    I cycled to work twice in the past month...never again. Traffic here fucking sucks baws, even though it's only a 12 minute ride (6 minutes of riding, 6 minutes of red lights - 3 miles total).

    And it's a good thing I stopped. One of my coworkers got hit this morning while cycling to work.

    Now I've taken the road tires off, put 2.2" knobbies on, and stay on the trails.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 05, 2012 11:28 PM GMT
    Unfortunately, my hometown of Buffalo is still not the greatest city to ride a bike. It is still mostly car driven. However, things are starting to improve with more bike lanes being added to the streets but it has been very piecemeal and the progress is quite slow.
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    Nov 05, 2012 11:51 PM GMT
    tanlejos said
    agro saidI guess it's really great that people are doing this but when you have to drive to work on a Saturday/Sunday morning it is not fun. Some of the cyclists can be really inconsiderate from a driver's perspective: having to drive 30 km/h through a 60 km/h road because the cyclists are spilling out of the cycling lane onto the main road isn't awesome icon_mad.gif


    What a curious comment to make.

    If you reverse your observation, you have the situation that cyclists face everyday with bikes being stuck behind cars in traffic , bike lane obstructed by parked cars.

    I mean no offence saying this but this is the attitude that hinders better city and road planning in the developed world = roads don't exist to only serve cars~ they serve pedestrians and cyclists too.
    It's not about the purpose of the roads - It's about the reality that people drive like shit and don't watch for pedestrians or cyclists (including motorcycles).

    More bike lanes would be nice, but that doesn't fix the problem. The problem lies at intersections, where people "look both ways" but they don't look for the cyclist coming up from behind. I was hit 3 times in 2 weeks a few years ago, all because people made right turns in front of me when I was in the bike lane (I ran into them cause road bikes don't stop very well with skinny tires...especially at 25+ MPH).

    As a recently-ex road rider, my advice is to just stay off the roads. With people texting and driving, programming GPS's, and other distractions, it's simply not safe to ride a bike on the road. Bike lanes are a joke.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 06, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    tanlejos said
    agro saidI guess it's really great that people are doing this but when you have to drive to work on a Saturday/Sunday morning it is not fun. Some of the cyclists can be really inconsiderate from a driver's perspective: having to drive 30 km/h through a 60 km/h road because the cyclists are spilling out of the cycling lane onto the main road isn't awesome icon_mad.gif


    What a curious comment to make.

    If you reverse your observation, you have the situation that cyclists face everyday with bikes being stuck behind cars in traffic , bike lane obstructed by parked cars.

    I mean no offence saying this but this is the attitude that hinders better city and road planning in the developed world = roads don't exist to only serve cars~ they serve pedestrians and cyclists too.
    It's not about the purpose of the roads - It's about the reality that people drive like shit and don't watch for pedestrians or cyclists (including motorcycles).

    More bike lanes would be nice, but that doesn't fix the problem. The problem lies at intersections, where people "look both ways" but they don't look for the cyclist coming up from behind. I was hit 3 times in 2 weeks a few years ago, all because people made right turns in front of me when I was in the bike lane (I ran into them cause road bikes don't stop very well with skinny tires...especially at 25+ MPH).

    As a recently-ex road rider, my advice is to just stay off the roads. With people texting and driving, programming GPS's, and other distractions, it's simply not safe to ride a bike on the road. Bike lanes are a joke.
    Where would you want cyclists to rideicon_question.gifPlease don't say on the sidewalk because it is unlawful to ride on the sidewalk. Cyclists don't belong on the sidewalks they belong on the roads. I blame government authorities for being too lenient with traffic laws. It is time to compel these motorists to share the roads and watch out for cyclists or they pay stiff fines. Anyone caught texting while driving or playing with their GPS while driving should have their driving and auto ownership priviledges revoked for life after a second violation. We have to stop designing our transportation networks to just move cars. All modes of transportation need to be in the equation. Every state should also permanently repeal right on red light laws. I pay taxes and I will continue to ride on the road because that is where bicycles rightfully belong.
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    Nov 06, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    paulflexes said
    tanlejos said
    agro saidI guess it's really great that people are doing this but when you have to drive to work on a Saturday/Sunday morning it is not fun. Some of the cyclists can be really inconsiderate from a driver's perspective: having to drive 30 km/h through a 60 km/h road because the cyclists are spilling out of the cycling lane onto the main road isn't awesome icon_mad.gif


    What a curious comment to make.

    If you reverse your observation, you have the situation that cyclists face everyday with bikes being stuck behind cars in traffic , bike lane obstructed by parked cars.

    I mean no offence saying this but this is the attitude that hinders better city and road planning in the developed world = roads don't exist to only serve cars~ they serve pedestrians and cyclists too.
    It's not about the purpose of the roads - It's about the reality that people drive like shit and don't watch for pedestrians or cyclists (including motorcycles).

    More bike lanes would be nice, but that doesn't fix the problem. The problem lies at intersections, where people "look both ways" but they don't look for the cyclist coming up from behind. I was hit 3 times in 2 weeks a few years ago, all because people made right turns in front of me when I was in the bike lane (I ran into them cause road bikes don't stop very well with skinny tires...especially at 25+ MPH).

    As a recently-ex road rider, my advice is to just stay off the roads. With people texting and driving, programming GPS's, and other distractions, it's simply not safe to ride a bike on the road. Bike lanes are a joke.
    Where would you want cyclists to rideicon_question.gifPlease don't say on the sidewalk because it is unlawful to ride on the sidewalk. Cyclists don't belong on the sidewalks they belong on the roads. I blame government authorities for being too lenient with traffic laws. It is time to compel these motorists to share the roads and watch out for cyclists or they pay stiff fines.
    I agree. The govt is WAY too lenient; but making them pay fines isn't going to solve the problem.

    The only way to solve the problem is to make distracted driving punishable the same as a DUI...take away the person's license for a few weeks and hike their insurance costs through the roof for the next 3 years. Until they do that, I'm staying off the roads, because people don't give a fuck about fines. That's what traffic defense lawyers are for.

    Oh, and having mandatory driving tests every year or two for ALL drivers to re-educate them on how to drive would be nice, too.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 06, 2012 12:25 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    roadbikeRob said
    paulflexes said
    tanlejos said
    agro saidI guess it's really great that people are doing this but when you have to drive to work on a Saturday/Sunday morning it is not fun. Some of the cyclists can be really inconsiderate from a driver's perspective: having to drive 30 km/h through a 60 km/h road because the cyclists are spilling out of the cycling lane onto the main road isn't awesome icon_mad.gif


    What a curious comment to make.

    If you reverse your observation, you have the situation that cyclists face everyday with bikes being stuck behind cars in traffic , bike lane obstructed by parked cars.

    I mean no offence saying this but this is the attitude that hinders better city and road planning in the developed world = roads don't exist to only serve cars~ they serve pedestrians and cyclists too.
    It's not about the purpose of the roads - It's about the reality that people drive like shit and don't watch for pedestrians or cyclists (including motorcycles).

    More bike lanes would be nice, but that doesn't fix the problem. The problem lies at intersections, where people "look both ways" but they don't look for the cyclist coming up from behind. I was hit 3 times in 2 weeks a few years ago, all because people made right turns in front of me when I was in the bike lane (I ran into them cause road bikes don't stop very well with skinny tires...especially at 25+ MPH).

    As a recently-ex road rider, my advice is to just stay off the roads. With people texting and driving, programming GPS's, and other distractions, it's simply not safe to ride a bike on the road. Bike lanes are a joke.
    Where would you want cyclists to rideicon_question.gifPlease don't say on the sidewalk because it is unlawful to ride on the sidewalk. Cyclists don't belong on the sidewalks they belong on the roads. I blame government authorities for being too lenient with traffic laws. It is time to compel these motorists to share the roads and watch out for cyclists or they pay stiff fines.
    I agree. The govt is WAY too lenient; but making them pay fines isn't going to solve the problem.

    The only way to solve the problem is to make distracted driving punishable the same as a DUI...take away the person's license for a few weeks and hike their insurance costs through the roof for the next 3 years. Until they do that, I'm staying off the roads, because people don't give a fuck about fines. That's what traffic defense lawyers are for.
    Motorists who are repeatedly caught texting while driving or fiddling with their GPS while driving should be permanently stripped of their driving and auto ownership priviledges for the rest of their lives. They can ride and support public transportation or they can walk. But they should never be allowed to drive ever again.
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    Nov 06, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    paulflexes said
    roadbikeRob said
    paulflexes said
    tanlejos said
    agro saidI guess it's really great that people are doing this but when you have to drive to work on a Saturday/Sunday morning it is not fun. Some of the cyclists can be really inconsiderate from a driver's perspective: having to drive 30 km/h through a 60 km/h road because the cyclists are spilling out of the cycling lane onto the main road isn't awesome icon_mad.gif


    What a curious comment to make.

    If you reverse your observation, you have the situation that cyclists face everyday with bikes being stuck behind cars in traffic , bike lane obstructed by parked cars.

    I mean no offence saying this but this is the attitude that hinders better city and road planning in the developed world = roads don't exist to only serve cars~ they serve pedestrians and cyclists too.
    It's not about the purpose of the roads - It's about the reality that people drive like shit and don't watch for pedestrians or cyclists (including motorcycles).

    More bike lanes would be nice, but that doesn't fix the problem. The problem lies at intersections, where people "look both ways" but they don't look for the cyclist coming up from behind. I was hit 3 times in 2 weeks a few years ago, all because people made right turns in front of me when I was in the bike lane (I ran into them cause road bikes don't stop very well with skinny tires...especially at 25+ MPH).

    As a recently-ex road rider, my advice is to just stay off the roads. With people texting and driving, programming GPS's, and other distractions, it's simply not safe to ride a bike on the road. Bike lanes are a joke.
    Where would you want cyclists to rideicon_question.gifPlease don't say on the sidewalk because it is unlawful to ride on the sidewalk. Cyclists don't belong on the sidewalks they belong on the roads. I blame government authorities for being too lenient with traffic laws. It is time to compel these motorists to share the roads and watch out for cyclists or they pay stiff fines.
    I agree. The govt is WAY too lenient; but making them pay fines isn't going to solve the problem.

    The only way to solve the problem is to make distracted driving punishable the same as a DUI...take away the person's license for a few weeks and hike their insurance costs through the roof for the next 3 years. Until they do that, I'm staying off the roads, because people don't give a fuck about fines. That's what traffic defense lawyers are for.
    Motorists who are repeatedly caught texting while driving or fiddling with their GPS while driving should be permanently stripped of their driving and auto ownership priviledges for the rest of their lives. They can ride and support public transportation or they can walk. But they should never be allowed to drive ever again.
    I agree. Distracted driving has been proven time and time again to be more dangerous than drunk driving. Once the laws reflect that, I'll put road tires on my cross bike and ride the roads again.

    But until then, it keeps the knobbies.
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    Nov 06, 2012 12:30 AM GMT
    What about making cyclists obey traffic rules? Especially running stop signs.

    Actually they made an effort where I lived 30 years ago. FIrst they put cops (Campus Security... technically state troopers but with waaay more donuts under the belt) on bikes. Yeah, right. They couldn't catch anybody. Then they put the cops on Harley's. Offenders just hopped up on the sidewalks and took off across a quad. The cops weren't ready to gun a Harley across the lawn in hot pursuit.

    We need waay faster/hunkier bike cops.


    ...and I suppose that might even help with enforcing traffic rules too.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 06, 2012 12:34 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidWhat about making cyclists obey traffic rules? Especially running stop signs.

    Actually they made an effort where I lived 30 years ago. FIrst they put cops (Campus Security... technically state troopers but with waaay more donuts under the belt) on bikes. Yeah, right. They couldn't catch anybody. Then they put the cops on Harley's. Offenders just hopped up on the sidewalks and took off across a quad. The cops weren't ready to gun a Harley across the lawn in hot pursuit.

    We need waay faster/hunkier bike cops.


    ...and I suppose that might even help with enforcing traffic rules too.
    Good valid point. Too many cyclists disobey traffic laws and authorities need to come after them as well. Especially cyclists that ride on sidewalks and ride against traffic.
  • FitGwynedd

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    Nov 06, 2012 12:45 AM GMT
    Cyclists have been on the decline here as we continue to see advancements in transportation technology. Climate controlled trains and buses can travel faster and further in all kinds of weather and generally prove bicycles worthless. We just got a new bus (picture below) that will likely prove the remaining cyclists redundant. Also, the new traffic improvements in the town centre do not facilitate bicycle traffic so it is likely that these two factors will phase out the last remaining cyclists in town.

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  • Kagse

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    Nov 06, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
    I live in Boulder, CO.....a Mecca of sorts to cyclists. OMG if you are not on your driving game, you are bound to hit someone. It's a whole other level of traffic, especially if it's nice. The only thing that is not nice are large and in-charge men and women who feel the need to wear the tightest cycling gear.

    But overall probably a good thing less cars causing in town congestion.
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:37 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    mindgarden saidWhat about making cyclists obey traffic rules? Especially running stop signs.

    Actually they made an effort where I lived 30 years ago. FIrst they put cops (Campus Security... technically state troopers but with waaay more donuts under the belt) on bikes. Yeah, right. They couldn't catch anybody. Then they put the cops on Harley's. Offenders just hopped up on the sidewalks and took off across a quad. The cops weren't ready to gun a Harley across the lawn in hot pursuit.

    We need waay faster/hunkier bike cops.


    ...and I suppose that might even help with enforcing traffic rules too.
    Good valid point. Too many cyclists disobey traffic laws and authorities need to come after them as well. Especially cyclists that ride on sidewalks and ride against traffic.
    Very valid point. There have been many times I had to "bunny hop" to the sidewalk to avoid oncoming cyclists...not fun when you gotta slam on your brakes for a pedestrian at the same time. icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:39 AM GMT
    Cycling isn't really safe here in Houston. The bike lanes are in the HOV lanes and people like me get upset when a biker is going slow. HOV is for going fast haha
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    Nov 06, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
    Flat Florida would seem ideal to commute by bike but for the humidity and thunderstorms

    And as mentioned we do get a lot of bike killings here, one not far from where I live, not at an intersection, but by kids drag racing and losing control of their cars on a str8away.

    I believe a big problem with cars is that drivers have no idea that they're suppose to give bikes 3 ft when passing. I've had cars come so close that I could kick them, or slap their hind quarter so loudly as they pass that the driver looks back to see if I'm still alive. Of course they never stop to see what hit.

    http://www.floridabicycle.org/rules/bikelaw.html
    The legal minimum passing clearance for an overtaking vehicle is 3 ft.

    It's incredible how stupid they can be, that they'd rather risk a person's life than put their car's tire on or over their lane's left line. As if going over into the other lane is gonna get them a ticket but killing someone is just fine. Assholes.

    I blame part of the problem on media which never advertises the rules, not even when a cyclist dies, the perfect opportunity to teach. I've written letters to the editors of various papers about this whenever I see a story about a death or injury which does not mention the 3-ft rule and the 3-ft rule is never mentioned in those articles.

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  • FitGwynedd

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    Nov 06, 2012 10:42 AM GMT
    How we deal with cyclists in Britain