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    Nov 06, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
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    Marco Rubio !
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    "Should Romney fall short, the list of Republicans who could step up is lengthy.

    Ryan, this year's vice presidential nominee, would be toward the front of the pack if he ran. So, presumably, would a slate of governors — Chris Christie of New Jersey, Nikki Haley of South Carolina, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, John Kasich of Ohio and Scott Walker of Wisconsin. From the Senate, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul could play for the tea party mantle, with the latter viewed as the heir to father Ron Paul's loyal base of libertarian-minded followers. So could Rubio, a GOP sensation only two years into a Senate term who is headed for Altoona, Iowa, later this month as the featured guest at a birthday celebration for Republican Gov. Terry Branstad.

    Former Pennsylvania Rick Santorum, the runner-up to Romney, could give it another go. And former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush hasn't ruled anything out.

    Virginia alone could see three former governors as contenders: current Democratic Sen. Mark Warner, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine if he prevails in his Senate race next week and Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell, who is limited by law to one term that expires after next year.
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:48 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidDon't get your hopes us. Rubio is peripherally involved in several financial scandals which have only just started to be investigated. I'm not sure I even give him 50-50 odds of keeping his seat, let alone running for president.

    Anyway, I thought you'd be a Ryan guy.


    Bunch of them that I like. Overall, I still think it would be Jeb Bush at this point, but much can change in four years.
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:51 PM GMT
    At least you've gotten more realistic about Romney's chances.... I wonder when CJAZ's head will explode. I sure don't want to miss that!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:52 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Aristoshark saidDon't get your hopes us. Rubio is peripherally involved in several financial scandals which have only just started to be investigated. I'm not sure I even give him 50-50 odds of keeping his seat, let alone running for president.

    Anyway, I thought you'd be a Ryan guy.


    Bunch of them that I like. Overall, I still think it would be Jeb Bush at this point, but much can change in four years.


    NOT ANOTHER BUSH.icon_mad.gif
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidAt least you've gotten more realistic about Romney's chances.... I wonder when CJAZ's head will explode. I sure don't want to miss that!icon_biggrin.gif


    Whatdoyamean more realistic? I said 50 - 50 for one day a week or so ago, but mostly 60 - 40 to 80-20 against.

    I never once claimed that I was confident of a Romney win and I'm still not today.
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    Nov 06, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    Aristoshark saidDon't get your hopes us. Rubio is peripherally involved in several financial scandals which have only just started to be investigated. I'm not sure I even give him 50-50 odds of keeping his seat, let alone running for president.

    Anyway, I thought you'd be a Ryan guy.


    Bunch of them that I like. Overall, I still think it would be Jeb Bush at this point, but much can change in four years.


    NOT ANOTHER BUSH.icon_mad.gif


    Yes, more bush. Don't like bush? Then shave it!
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    Nov 06, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidChristie - never. The Tea Party types don't like him, he comes across as too brash, too loud, too northeastern and (let's be honest here) too fat.

    Nikki Haley - a lightweight who has spent the past two years antagonizing her own party in South Carolina. She is the Sarah Palin of the Low Country.

    Jindal - will never be seen as a grownup after that disastrous speech.

    Jeb Bush - oh that name. Not in the next 50 years.

    Santorum - oh please PLEASE let him run, o please o please

    Kasich - ZZZZzzzZZZZzzZ...huh...whuh?...ZZz.....ZZ..ZZzz Z.zz

    Rand Paul - too fucking weird for even his own party. Let him get up there and run on a return to the gold standard. I give him the least chance of any.

    Walker - a possibility, though too divisive to actually win.





    Christie's weight is an issue. I don't think we'll ever again have a president the likes of William Taft, and I think Christie's BMI is probably higher.

    With some more seasoning, Paul Ryan could be, and should Romney lose, another Bush in four years. Overall my pick would be Bush.
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    Nov 06, 2012 2:39 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidAt least you've gotten more realistic about Romney's chances.... I wonder when CJAZ's head will explode. I sure don't want to miss that!icon_biggrin.gif



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    Nov 06, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    Rand Paul isn't going to just *get* RPs loyal base. Many of the base have shifted to other candidates that, thanks to Ron Paul, have gotten more notice and attention. Rand Paul doesn't just get the base for being RP's son. He's got to prove he is really after what RP's loyalists are.

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    Nov 06, 2012 4:12 PM GMT
    It would be nice to see a viable 3rd Party emerge in the next few years that could build towards a real chance in 2016 -- maybe taking the best from both parties. The US simply cannot handle many more years of gridlock
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    Nov 06, 2012 4:28 PM GMT
    I am hoping that, 4 years from now, the GOP party has purged itself of the ultra right wing conservatives and TEA party loonies that have ruined what used to be a rational alternative political party.



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    Nov 06, 2012 5:57 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said[url]http://t.news.msn.com/politics/not-sick-of-election-yet-here%e2%80%99s-a-2016-preview[/url]

    Marco Rubio !
    Why can't you people pick a Fiscally Conservative/Social Liberal for a change?

    What is with modern day Republicans (let alone gays) wanting the most Conservative candidates with ridiculous stone age traditions?
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    Nov 06, 2012 7:02 PM GMT
    I've admired Christie for his handling of Sandy and his cooperation and graciousness for Obama. That alone has separated him from the rest of the GOP in a very good way and demonstrates his ability to be a leader.

    I don't agree with him on everything but I do with this whole Sandy debacle.
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    Nov 06, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    Calcasieu saidI've admired Christie for his handling of Sandy and his cooperation and graciousness for Obama. That alone had separated him from the rest of the GOP in a very good way.


    Which means the Repubs will probably throw him under a bus for 'losing' this election for them.

    I think by 2016 the economic landscape will be very different. If Hillary does decide to stand, the GOP would be better off fielding another mediocre candidate and saving their 'talent' for 2024.
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    Nov 06, 2012 7:12 PM GMT
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    Calcasieu saidI've admired Christie for his handling of Sandy and his cooperation and graciousness for Obama. That alone had separated him from the rest of the GOP in a very good way.


    Which means the Repubs will probably throw him under a bus for 'losing' this election for them.

    I think by 2016 the economic landscape will be very different. If Hillary does decide to stand, the GOP would be better off fielding another mediocre candidate and saving their 'talent' for 2024.


    Exactly! God forbid the Tea Party, I mean GOP, put aside petty shit and differences and work with the president on an issue that really matters.

    A Christie/Clinton run would be very interesting. Two candidates with big balls going toe to toe equals big fun!
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    Nov 06, 2012 7:24 PM GMT
    Calcasieu saidI've admired Christie for his handling of Sandy and his cooperation and graciousness for Obama. That alone has separated him from the rest of the GOP in a very good way and demonstrates his ability to be a leader.

    I don't agree with him on everything but I do with this whole Sandy debacle.


    Could also be because he was passed over for the GOP VP nod at the last minute in favor of Ryan.
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    Nov 06, 2012 7:26 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said[url]http://t.news.msn.com/politics/not-sick-of-election-yet-here%e2%80%99s-a-2016-preview[/url]

    Marco Rubio !
    Why can't you people pick a Fiscally Conservative/Social Liberal for a change?

    What is with modern day Republicans (let alone gays) wanting the most Conservative candidates with ridiculous stone age traditions?


    "Rediculous" is in the eye of the beholder and on that one, we do not agree.
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    Nov 06, 2012 7:42 PM GMT
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    Fiyero27 said
    freedomisntfree said[url]http://t.news.msn.com/politics/not-sick-of-election-yet-here%e2%80%99s-a-2016-preview[/url]

    Marco Rubio !
    Why can't you people pick a Fiscally Conservative/Social Liberal for a change?

    What is with modern day Republicans (let alone gays) wanting the most Conservative candidates with ridiculous stone age traditions?


    "Rediculous" is in the eye of the beholder and on that one, we do not agree.


    He said, while crafting a flint arrowhead.