UN poll-watchers 'amazed' US doesn't require ID's to vote

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    Nov 06, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    Our good socialist friends at the UN seem to have got it right.

    For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike.

    The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification.



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    Nov 06, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
    It's all voter fraud!! It's all voter fraud!! icon_rolleyes.gif

    ID required in some states, some not.

    http://www.ncsl.org/legislatures-elections/elections/voter-id.aspx

    We had to comply with a voter ID law in Virginia this election. I handed over my voter ID card rather than driver's license just to make sure they were complying with state law - photo not required.
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    Nov 06, 2012 9:03 PM GMT
    Looks like SB's sock is getting his excuses in early.
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    Nov 06, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidLooks like SB's sock is getting his excuses in early.


    Yup.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 06, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
    I had to sign my name for a ballot... but no further I.D. was required.

    Also, I voted "No" on the voter I.D. amendment. I think it would disenfranchise honest people, whereas people intent on commiting fraud would just make fakes I.D.s anyway.

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    Nov 06, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
    DontQuoteMe saidOur good socialist friends at the UN seem to have got it right.

    For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike.

    The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification.



    http://cbsphilly.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/covered20it20up1.jpg?w=300



    Heh - the irony. And, as it turns out there are quite a few reports of voters who apparently had "already" voted when they hadn't.
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    Nov 06, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
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    DontQuoteMe saidOur good socialist friends at the UN seem to have got it right.

    For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike.

    The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification.



    http://cbsphilly.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/covered20it20up1.jpg?w=300



    Heh - the irony. And, as it turns out there are quite a few reports of voters who apparently had "already" voted when they hadn't.


    Oh good lord. More likely to be error on the part of the official checking you in than voter fraud.
  • gbc59

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    Nov 06, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    u dont need id down here (australia) you walk into the polling station tell them your name , your adress they cross name and away u go.
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    Nov 06, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    DontQuoteMe saidOur good socialist friends at the UN seem to have got it right.

    For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike.

    The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification.



    http://cbsphilly.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/covered20it20up1.jpg?w=300



    Heh - the irony. And, as it turns out there are quite a few reports of voters who apparently had "already" voted when they hadn't.


    Oh good lord. More likely to be error on the part of the official checking you in than voter fraud.


    It would seem that minorities are as likely to be disenfranchised here - but the errors seem unlikely given the registration system.
    http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/voter-fraud-people-go-to-vote-ballots-already-cast-in-their-names-others-vote-more-than-once/
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    Nov 06, 2012 11:34 PM GMT
    gbc59 saidu dont need id down here (australia) you walk into the polling station tell them your name , your adress they cross name and away u go.


    Apparently there are only 5 countries out of 190 recognized countries that require ID - Denmark, Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom (Except Northern Ireland) and the United States.
  • coolarmydude

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    Nov 07, 2012 12:22 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI had to sign my name for a ballot... but no further I.D. was required.

    Also, I voted "No" on the voter I.D. amendment. I think it would disenfranchise honest people, whereas people intent on commiting fraud would just make fakes I.D.s anyway.


    EXACTLY!! Thank you!

    That's the point I end up with when going over this issue with an old Army buddy conservative friend of mine on facebook. Where does it stop?!
  • maxferguson

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    Nov 11, 2012 8:10 AM GMT
    I always vote, but have to admit....it's a pain to stand in line once and go through the whole process once (worth it, but still a pain in the butt). I can't see it being worthwhile standing in line again to get counted twice (if that's actually possible) when any supporter of the party I didn't vote for is equally likely to do the same.
  • morleyq

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    Nov 12, 2012 5:30 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI had to sign my name for a ballot... but no further I.D. was required.

    Also, I voted "No" on the voter I.D. amendment. I think it would disenfranchise honest people, whereas people intent on commiting fraud would just make fakes I.D.s anyway.

    I'm afraid things are much more MALICIOUS than this.
    Voter fraud is NOT an issue, as numerous studies have shown.
    The reason the GOP wants voting constraints is that minorities are less likely to have a government issued photo ID.
    Only 8% of white Americans lack this, compared to 25% of African Americans and 16 percent of Hispanic Americans.

    Guess who these minorities don't vote for...?!
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    Nov 12, 2012 6:53 AM GMT
    ^^^^^^
    Exactly!
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    Nov 12, 2012 6:55 AM GMT
    DontQuoteMe saidOur good socialist friends at the UN seem to have got it right.

    For the head of Libya's national election commission, the method by which Americans vote is startling in that it depends so much on trust and the good faith of election officials and voters alike.

    The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification.



    http://cbsphilly.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/covered20it20up1.jpg?w=300


    Really? The guy from **LIBYA** is surprised at our election system? After all, LIBYA has had such a long history of free and fair elections, they can teach us a thing or two about how to run an election! Quick! Lets have the government tattoo barcodes on our foreheads right now. Because the guy from LIBYA is startled.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 12, 2012 12:31 PM GMT
    To the person who started this post but selectively hears what they want in the Global World Press

    Now Dude? You might wanna get a pen or a pencil for this so you'll remember it when you get these republican led seizures that prompt you to post this crap?

    But EVERY non-third world democracy has universal registration for all of its citizens that is NOT based on making people responsible to get an ID card and almost all require everyone to vote

    But HERE? We require people to stand on lines for 5-6-7 hours
    We try to stop early voting in republican legislated states
    and have republican poll watchers at those polls to challenge people in democratic leaning areas
  • Laurence

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    Nov 12, 2012 12:50 PM GMT
    Er you don't need ID in the UK.

    Getting people to vote is a challenge, so it's made as easy as possible.

    Loz
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    Nov 12, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
    Let's all hope that we never hear from DontQuoteMe again now that Mitt Romney has cut his campaign credit card off.
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    Nov 12, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
    Laurence saidEr you don't need ID in the UK.

    Getting people to vote is a challenge, so it's made as easy as possible.

    Loz


    That´s partly cos the parties in the UK are much the same. In the USA politics is much more dramatic - there is no-one in mainstream politics in the UK even close to the GOP in terms of right wing extremism. The BNP is probably the nearest thing, but they are not considered mainstream and whenever they win anything there is always serious concern in the media.