Gay Focused Communities...

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    Aug 22, 2007 3:33 PM GMT

    I would like comment on an idea I floated within my real estate development group some time ago. The idea is to develop/build gay focused communities.

    Would you consider purchasing or leasing a home, town home, or condo in a gay focused community? What features would like to see in such a community? (A well equipped gym being an obvious amenity.) Would you prefer a membership controlled community, i.e., you must be accepted as a member in order to purchase or lease property?

    Price is an important consideration. Price is also driven to a great deal by location. Would you prefer an urban setting or semi-rural setting? Is it important that the neighborhood be near an existing “gayborhood?” What price range would you consider when purchasing a new home?

    Having built homes for many years for what I call the standard customer, i.e., the husband and wife, I am turned off by the large home with the “his and hers” bath. In my own home I have one cavernous closet in the master, a shared shower, and similar features across the bath. Ideas as to what the gay home should contain as to design, etc?


  • DanielQQ

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    Aug 22, 2007 4:01 PM GMT
    This is a tough question for me. Having lived in several large cities when gayborhoods (NYC, SF, LA), I now live in Austin and here it's much more integrated.

    There's a part of me that believes we, as a community, shouldn't be parsed off into a ghetto. We disconnect from straight folks, and perhaps worse, they disconnect from us. Less change is brought about if we essentially become more "invisible" in your average neighborhood because we're all living in the ghetto.

    However, i've never been a fan of extreme arguments. If there was a gay community built, it obviously wouldn't hold ALL gay people. I'm not sure if i'd enjoy living in one, though. I'm trying to imagine an all gay men's suburbia and for whatever reason i keep thinking it'd make Desperate Housewives look tame.
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    Aug 22, 2007 4:27 PM GMT
    In general, segregated neighborhoods seem like a poor idea to me. A couple of years ago, someone floated the idea of designating a semi-official gay area in PDX, and it went down in flames from all sides. Although, to be fair, I think the motivation there was at least partly to protect the existing gayborhood from being forced out by rising real estate prices.

    I'm more interested in the other side of the thread. Some of the "standard" features in houses just seem strange to me. I prefer more open spaces than a lot of little rooms. I think the bath(s) ought to be spacious enough for for shared activities and still allow residents and guests to have some personal storage. In my house, the guest suite actually has a larger bath/spa area (adjacent to the gym) than the master, and the showers are comfortably large enough for two. It turns out that the master bath doesn't have quite enough privacy, when the house is full, so I'll probably seal it off with a cedar and plexiglass screen wall. If I build another house, I'll look seriously into adapting the mediterranean courtyard/bath style.
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    Aug 22, 2007 5:39 PM GMT
    I've actually heard of gay retirement communities that exsist in Florida. Would that count as the same thing?
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    Aug 22, 2007 5:44 PM GMT
    I believe that in both Oakland and San Francisco there are projects proposed or underway for LGBT Seniors. I think the Oakland one is to be a high rise apartments. The San Francisco one is a redevelopment of a college extension capmus which might be a combination of townhouses and apartments.

    Units billed as 2 bedroom should have 2 bedrooms carefully designed to be equal in size, closet space, access to bathroom, etc. Emphasis is on the equality and not necessarily on the idea that they be lavish "Master" bedrooms. I know couples that sleep apart due to snoreing. I, also, know couples that are quite different in income level but very sensitive to any hint of inequality in their home relationship.

    Showers should be oversized--partly because people are becoming oversized-- partly because they can be handicapped accessible--partly because showering together can be fun.
  • metta

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    Aug 22, 2007 6:07 PM GMT
    I like the idea of building a community that is gay friendly, not necessarily all gay. But one that goes out of their way to be gay friendly, preferable Ocean front. Luxury is always nice. I like extra space. I would prefer to not be limited to one or 2 bedrooms.

    I would prefer just having one large living room, a gourmet kitchen with walk in pantry and large center island, lots of built ins, large master bedroom/bathroom, etc. I don't really need a formal dinning room or formal living room.
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    Aug 22, 2007 6:57 PM GMT
    well if you take ideas from the gay seasonal trailers parks and camps I just might buy. something outdoorsy.
    I have a name: Sparkle City

    If I built again I would be an open concept home too- big and high enough for tarzan to adjust.

    log cabin style building on a lake or river hands down. my family would have to share an igloo.
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    Aug 23, 2007 3:57 AM GMT
    I think Wilton Station (?) in Wilton Manor, FLA, is such a development, though it may not be all gay.

    May be interested in a gay retirement community in time. Would probably prefer to stay in the same large city we are in now.

    Room for collections, art, ec.
    Storage space
    Some private outdoor space
    Soundproof, or as much so as feasible
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    Aug 23, 2007 5:03 AM GMT
    developing a gayborhood artificially seems like a bad idea. Its asking for trouble. However, building within or adjacent to existing ones like inside or near west hollywood or anywhere like that could be a good idea. controlling who is ar isnt accepted is also a bad idea. Market prices should dictate who is and is not allowed in. Also, the marketing could be very gay friendly but not in a cheesy offensive way. However, for renters, who stays and doesn't stay maybe should in part be controlled by the HOA especially if its a condo or townhouse type dense housing complex. We pay a HUGE HOA not to mention the prices out here in lake sherwood and I get really pissed when a renter acts like a douchebag in our neighborhood (its only happened once, but it still pissed me off). If you are thinking of something like what the Dominos Pizza guy did in Florida with "eukea" or whatever that Catholic city was, that would have to be done in an extremely liberal area where you wouldn't have to worry about local residents voting it down. All in all, you'd be better off working within existing gay communities. I don't know how things are in Atlanta, but here in Los Angeles, live/work is a big thing right now.
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    Aug 27, 2007 6:56 PM GMT
    The idea of a gay development is interesting, but overall I like mixing in with everyone else. Metro Detroit is pretty well mixed. I have to say if you were going to do it put it in an urban enviroment, sprawl need not be caused by the gays.

    Now the idea of a gay house, is very interesting. Being an Architecture student I see a final project. I belive The Producers were right with "Hes having a stroke.... of genious!"

    I like the idea of a master suite with two bedrooms connected by a bath and a large shower for two. I think a seperate guest suite is important for resale, meaning it could be a master suite for a straight couple. I think more large open spaces for entertaining is also important. Fewer bigger rooms rather than more small rooms should be the rule. I think green design is important for any house.

    Whatcha all think?