Immune diseases and Paleo Diet

  • Dominican_Gen...

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    Nov 08, 2012 12:44 AM GMT
    Hello,

    At first sight this thread could fit in the nutritional forum, but keep reading. For the past two months I've been transitioning to the Paleo diet way of eating. One of it's intended benefits is improved immune response because grains and cereal (especially wheat) bring along several alergenics and cause system-wide inflammation. On the literature i've read it also mentions that people usually don't realise this until they take said foods out of their diet and later reintroduce then. Keep reading:

    Last week my partner and I where celebrating our aniversay. It involved several nights dining out (pizza, shushi, pasta, white bread and white rice one day) and some alcohol along the way.

    Well, weather has been pretty consistent here lately but the last couple of days I've been experiencing red eyes and mild flu-like symtoms. Today I woke up feeling worse than ever, running nose and overall body discomfort.... And it wasn't until minutes ago that I joined the dots.

    Has someone else here experienced something similar with grains/cereal and Paleo Diet?
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    Nov 08, 2012 11:51 PM GMT
    I've been doing Paleo for a couple years now, but not 100% compliant (more like 80/20). And yeah, there's a noticeable difference in my immune response when the company sends me out of town and I'm practically forced to eat shitty/tasty restaurant food for a few days or weeks at a time.

    However, I do drink quite regularly...sugary drinks at that (Kahlua). A couple drinks a night usually have no ill effect; but if I binge drink (party, etc) I have to do a couple days of strict Paleo to completely recover, or I'll likely get a minor cold.
  • mr_bijae

    Posts: 229

    Nov 09, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    You are not alone!

    I started eating paleo by accident. I stopped by my sisters for a week and it's turned out to be a few weeks. They've been on the paleo diet for several months. My brother in law swears by it because he's lost 40 lbs and hasn't become more active.

    I have RV parked on their property and eat meals with them two the three times a day. It isn't too far off from what I normally eat. However, we went to my nephews soccer party. I had been on their diet for almost two weeks at this point. I couldn't help myself and ordered a calzone and a basket of fries while at the pizza party for the kids. I could barely eat half of what I used to before. My body had almost an instant rejection of the processed foods.

    I eat healthy by most standards. I didn't realize how much those foods affected me though. My sinuses were a wreck after the pizza party. I felt down for 24 hours. It wasn't guilt because I wasn't cheating on my diet as I'm not on one. I have been here for a few weeks now and I can tell you there's a correlation between your symptoms and the food you eat. I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't already happened to me.
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    Nov 09, 2012 4:09 AM GMT
    mr_bijae saidYou are not alone!

    I started eating paleo by accident. I stopped by my sisters for a week and it's turned out to be a few weeks. They've been on the paleo diet for several months. My brother in law swears by it because he's lost 40 lbs and hasn't become more active.

    I have RV parked on their property and eat meals with them two the three times a day. It isn't too far off from what I normally eat. However, we went to my nephews soccer party. I had been on their diet for almost two weeks at this point. I couldn't help myself and ordered a calzone and a basket of fries while at the pizza party for the kids. I could barely eat half of what I used to before. My body had almost an instant rejection of the processed foods.

    I eat healthy by most standards. I didn't realize how much those foods affected me though. My sinuses were a wreck after the pizza party. I felt down for 24 hours. It wasn't guilt because I wasn't cheating on my diet as I'm not on one. I have been here for a few weeks now and I can tell you there's a correlation between your symptoms and the food you eat. I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't already happened to me.
    If this story is genuine, it's the absolute best testimonial I've ever heard/read about Paleo foods.

    BTW, I hesitate to call Paleo a "diet" because it's more about noninflammatory foods than it is about a predetermined meal plan, as most "diets" are.
  • bischero

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    Nov 09, 2012 4:14 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidHym, I think you'd have to experiment several times to come to any type of conclusion. Try it several times. If you omit grains and then reintroduce them and get flu-like symptoms every time then you can say that you are allergic to wheat/gluten or whatever type of grain you have.

    Let's not forget that flu season started not too long ago so you could actually have the flu. The only way that valid observations can be made (even though we're talking anecdotal) is through repetition.

    Also, keep in mind that if you still incorporate anti-inflammatory foods such as whole fruits and vegetables along with some grains you will more than likely be fine if not experience a significant reduction in symptoms. Suffice it to say that just about anyone can report feeling remarkably different (either better or worse) by significantly changing one's diet. Going from one extreme to another will have notable effects.

    I noticed that I have had problems consuming wholewheat in the past but what I've also noticed is that if I consume my eight to eleven servings of veggies and fruits that I really don't experience many problems. I used to get brain fog, the achy joints, etc. But when I ate wheat I also noticed that I wasn't eating my pound of broccoli and/or asparagus.

    One serving of fruit/veggies is four ounces. So it's not hard to get a pound of veggies (four servings).


    This. +1
  • gwuinsf

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    Nov 19, 2012 5:17 PM GMT
    The thing I've learned about my journey through Paleo is that everyone reacts to foods differently. So you need to take everyone's advice with a grain of salt. The best advice from above is that you need to experiment and see what works and doesn't work for you. On one side of the spectrum people will say "I have no problems with wheat" and on the other side there are those with celiac.

    Wheat, for me, wreaks my GI. I feel like crap and I've got the runs for the next one to two days. Obviously there are people that can eat it no problem, but I have dire consequences.

    If you subscribe to the theory that wheat is toxic, as outlined in books like Wheat Belly, then wheat is damaging the permeability of your intestinal wall, allowing things to pass into your blood stream that normally should not. This forces your immune system to work harder to clean up those toxins, hence why you could be experiencing flu-like symptoms.

    I suggest checking out and doing a Whole30 (whole9life.com). They outline a good 30 day plan for testing what your sensitivities to food are. I thought I was lactose intolerant my whole life, but turns out I have no problem with dairy and it was really the wheat that was the problem.