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    Nov 09, 2012 5:33 AM GMT
    Tonight I got a call from a long time friend. He was arrested and charged with 3 felonies two weeks ago this friday. His Charges?
    1. PUBLIC ORDER CRIMES - USE 2 WAY COMM DEVICE TO FACIL FELONY
    2. OBSCENE COMMUNICATION - USE COMPUTER SOLICIT PARENT GUARDIAN CONSENT
    3. OBSCENE COMMUNICATION - TRAVEL TO MEET USE COMPUTER SOLICIT GUARDIAN


    Story, and THIS is where you ALL need to BEWARE.. this can and WILL be some of you.

    51 yr old Friend answered an ad on craigslist to meet a 40 yr old gay man.
    Friend shared phone numbers and this 40 yr old texted him saying it was his 40th Bday and he wanted to celebrate. Friend accepted after exchanging stats. 40 yr old stated that he had a son and would that be an issue. Friend stated having a son was not an issue as friend has two grown children and grand children of his own. 40 yr old texted that his son was home. Friend said not an issue. 40 yr old said come on over and issued address.
    Friend arrived and was immediately cuffed and arrested.

    Friend has NEVER had any interest in children, twink or younger men.
    This is a sting my friends..
    and you dont need to mention ANYTHING regarding a youngster other that a youngster lives at the house (like most straights with children) to be arrested..
    This will most likely be thrown out because no intent was ever communicated other than to meet a 40 yr old gay man..
    Friend has lost his job, deactivated his facebook account due to nasty vile accusations by strangers.
    posted 50 grand in bail to get out of jail and 8 grand cash for an attorney. Had vehicle impounded, cell phone confiscated, computer at home confiscated. Cannot be around his own grandchildren unaccompanied, cannot text, cannot use the computer on any internet connection at any time for any reason. Until this is adjudicated

    The sheriff in said county is a 'children crusader'..

    Be VERY careful of whom you communicate with, WHAT you say via email and text.. and be VERY VERY wary of guys with children (sucks for those Guys that have kids but this is the reality of it guys!)
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    Nov 09, 2012 5:54 AM GMT
    Reason # 231,650,709 to never have kids.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:08 AM GMT
    Reason# 5734939 to not believe what you see in gay profiles, here and elsewhere.

    Also, what state/city did this happen in?
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:13 AM GMT
    xrichx saidReason# 5734939 to not believe what you see in gay profiles, here and elsewhere.

    Also, what state/city did this happen in?
    Florida.
    Same city NBC did a few of its 'stings' for broadcast.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:29 AM GMT
    TM_KeyWest saidFlorida.
    Same city NBC did a few of its 'stings' for broadcast.
    Seems like there's always a new reason to hate Florida.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:33 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidReason # 231,650,709 to never have kids.
    And reason # 231,650,710 to never date or hookup with a guy who already has a kid.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:34 AM GMT
    xrichx said
    TM_KeyWest saidFlorida.
    Same city NBC did a few of its 'stings' for broadcast.
    Seems like there's always a new reason to hate Florida.
    This ploy is used throughout the US!
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:44 AM GMT
    I get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:46 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.
    You are.. the text transcripts I have read.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:47 AM GMT
    TM_KeyWest said
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.
    You are.. the text transcripts I have read.


    Can you post the verbatim transcripts? A lot of important nuance is lost when you just 'give the jist'.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
    If a guy had children that would be a problem for me, so it's not really that important.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Nov 09, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.


    AGREED 100%!!!!

    Well look at the source Ari...icon_lol.gif

    If at all true reason 2 million to stay of craigs LMFAO!!!!!!

    You have low-life troll friends and a wise man once said tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who your ARE!!!icon_idea.gificon_idea.gificon_idea.gif
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:52 AM GMT
    Ariodante said
    TM_KeyWest said
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.
    You are.. the text transcripts I have read.


    Can you post the verbatim transcripts? A lot of important nuance is lost when you just 'give the jist'.
    I cant.. his lawyer doesnt want anything divulged until they are presented via the court.

    My point, even though this will be thrown out, is that any misstep, regardless of guilt or innocence can be a disaster personally.
    People's lives are destroyed just by an 'arrest' even if it was a mistaken arrest. Law enforcement NEVER 'erases' an arrest from anyone's record. Even if they are adjudicated not guilty or acquitted.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:53 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike said
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.


    AGREED 100%!!!!

    Well look at the source Ari...icon_lol.gif

    If at all true reason 2 million to stay of craigs LMFAO!!!!!!

    You have low-life troll friends and a wise man once said tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who your ARE!!!icon_idea.gificon_idea.gificon_idea.gif
    Shut the fuck up. You cant even type a complete or correct sentence, moron.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:59 AM GMT
    xrichx said
    TM_KeyWest saidFlorida.
    Same city NBC did a few of its 'stings' for broadcast.
    Seems like there's always a new reason to hate Florida.
    No, just west-central Florida. It tries too hard to be like the western US. icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 09, 2012 7:04 AM GMT
    TM_KeyWest saidregardless of guilt or innocence


    That's a pretty big 'regardless'.

    I was just curious as to how you'd obtain verbatim transcripts if he was arrested and his equipment was subsequently confiscated.
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    Nov 09, 2012 7:06 AM GMT
    Ariodante said
    TM_KeyWest saidregardless of guilt or innocence


    That's a pretty big 'regardless'.

    I was just curious as to how you'd obtain verbatim transcripts if he was arrested and his equipment was subsequently confiscated.
    Uh.. ever heard of 'discovery'?
    Lawyers even pulled transcripts from craigslist IT dept. Happens all the time!.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Nov 09, 2012 7:08 AM GMT
    TM_KeyWest said
    MikemikeMike said
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.


    AGREED 100%!!!!

    Well look at the source Ari...icon_lol.gif

    If at all true reason 2 million to stay of craigs LMFAO!!!!!!

    You have low-life troll friends and a wise man once said tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who your ARE!!!icon_idea.gificon_idea.gificon_idea.gif
    Shut the fuck up. You cant even type a complete or correct sentence, moron.


    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif Complete enough for you!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    Ok rocket scientist- work a 12-14 hour day and then grammar check me.
    You dumb bastard. You should marry that friend.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_idea.gif
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    Nov 09, 2012 7:14 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike said
    TM_KeyWest said
    MikemikeMike said
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.


    AGREED 100%!!!!

    Well look at the source Ari...icon_lol.gif

    If at all true reason 2 million to stay of craigs LMFAO!!!!!!

    You have low-life troll friends and a wise man once said tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who your ARE!!!icon_idea.gificon_idea.gificon_idea.gif
    Shut the fuck up. You cant even type a complete or correct sentence, moron.


    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif Complete enough for you!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    Ok rocket scientist- work a 12-14 hour day and then grammar check me.
    You dumb bastard. You should marry that friend.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_idea.gif
    LOL most others here work all day and they post with complete and correct sentences.
    They also maintain continuity in their structure, their style and content.. because only one person posts, unlike you guys posting on the same account. There's more than one of you behind that faceless pic, and its been that way for as long as I've been on this site!
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2789169/ <----icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 09, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
    Never trust Craigslist. icon_eek.gif!
  • AMoonHawk

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    Nov 09, 2012 4:58 PM GMT
    Do 40 year old man have 20 year old sons??? yes ... so it seems there is a lot more to this story than is being conveyed. If it truly is as innocent as it was written ... this is going to be a law suit on the police department that is going to make him very rich.
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    Nov 09, 2012 5:10 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    AMoonHawk saidDo 40 year old man have 20 year old sons??? yes ... so it seems there is a lot more to this story than is being conveyed. If it truly is as innocent as it was written ... this is going to be a law suit on the police department that is going to make him very rich.


    I'm not clear why you mentioned the age of the son. Not understanding how that is relevant here. But it's possible to be forty and have a twenty year old son. I know men that knocked up their girlfriends in high school at the age of sixteen/seventeen so it's easily possible.

    I mentioned age, because the story on the police's side seems to be implicating some sort of pedophila trafficking as the reason for the arrest, so if this is what the police dept. is trying to insinuate their story falls apart.
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    Nov 09, 2012 5:17 PM GMT
    That is outrageous, but not surprising. Law enforcement authorities can be completely evil. I have had several friends who were entrapped by law enforcement authorities in different ways, all centering around looking for gay sex - not child related, which is even more fraught.

    And just because you're in the right under the law, doesn't mean you'll win. One friend was arrested, lost at trial, appealed, and then lost at appeal, even though the law was CLEARLY on his side. No one involved cared, from the police, to the prosecutors, to the judges. It was all about getting faggots, and no one cared.

    Very sad.
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    Nov 09, 2012 6:17 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.


    Yeah. Something is missing on that OP.
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    Nov 09, 2012 9:10 PM GMT
    PR_GMR said
    Ariodante saidI get the feeling I'm not being presented the facts 100% as the exactly occurred.


    Yeah. Something is missing on that OP.




    I agree, and think his friend is being dishonest about the occurrence.

    I am only skeptical because gay men, or any one really, who meet people off of craigslist or any other anonymous portal for sex have the tendency to lack self-worth, fear deeper intimacy, and other unresolved and internal conflicts.

    So, this post is entirely void if you just consider why your friend made the decision to go to an unknown house.

    Sex is never just that, it's a projection, and sometimes a veil, of who we are and what we want.