I eat A TON!!!

  • Hunter9

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    Aug 22, 2007 6:26 PM GMT
    Since the beginning of this year, I started working out very hard and have been ever since. I was 6'2, 210 at the time, my normal "thick" self with some muscle underneath a fat layer from previous years I had been fitness-oriented.

    So now I've been working out very hard for 8 months, meaning about 90 minutes each day (about 2:1, cardio: weights), 6 or 7 days a week. I have only lost about five pounds, but realize that that is partly because I have gained a decent amount of muscle. At this point though, I'm having a very difficult time losing any more weight because I am so freakin hungry all the time. I'd guess I eat around 3500 (up to 4000) calories per day. It's generally healthy and "satiable/high-fiber" food. But if I try to cut back, I can't get my mind off of food. I've also been on and off ephedra, with the appetite sky-high regardless.

    I'm semi-content with my body at the moment, but it'd be nice to lose a few more pounds so the muscle comes through a bit more defined. I know there's not really a question here, but if anyone has experienced with this situation and has any advice, I'd appreciate it.
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    Aug 22, 2007 6:47 PM GMT
    I eat about the same amount as you (if not a bit more) just to gain weight and keep myself where I'm at now. There's another thread here about the benefits of vegetables, maybe that's something to fill up your stomach without additional calories.

    But as for advice about losing weight, I can't help you there. I have the opposite problem - trouble gaining.
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    Aug 22, 2007 7:38 PM GMT
    Water helps. If you feel hungry, drink some really cold water. Keep drinking until you don't feel hungry anymore. Also, crunches can be good. I've lost heaps of weight, but others on here have said my diet is really unhealthy, so I wouldn't necessarily take any of my advice
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    Aug 22, 2007 8:10 PM GMT
    Hi you... have you try soja oil with your food?, you can eat only vegies and even then you'll feel satisfied... drink lots of water and less salt to make your body filters work easyer and faster and try to eat differents things (natural) every day, do not repeat the same food every day... and check your "colesterol" levels... good luck! =)
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    Aug 22, 2007 8:23 PM GMT
    I made quite a difference just by adding more protein and subtracting some carbs. Adding things up, my total calories were low, but they were all carbs.

    Also, I notice that when I ramp up the intensity of workouts, the abs will show through for a few days, but then the body seems to adjust and cover them up again.
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    Aug 23, 2007 12:22 AM GMT
    I agree with the idea of shifting your diet to get more calories from protein and less from carbs. Veggies are also wonderful. Also, you say you "guess" you eat around 3500-4000 calories a day. Are you actually measuring and calculating? Our notion of portion sizes is so out of touch with reality that it is hard to just guess how may calories you are eating. Finally, cut out the empty calories- soda is a major culprit, but juices are just liquid candy- lots of calories, not much else.
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    Aug 23, 2007 1:22 AM GMT
    ftworthstud says: "juices are just liquid candy- lots of calories, not much else."

    I take some exception to this. Juice has a lot of vitamins that are extremely healthy and necessary. (As long as it's real juice and not Sunny-D.)

    Juice also is simple carbs, but are important and have an important place in a good overall nutritional plan.

    What I do agree with is this: if you're drinking juice any time you are THIRSTY, then you're probably getting way too much sugar in your diet. And that's not useful. Drink lots of water, instead.
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    Aug 23, 2007 2:51 AM GMT
    Juice does of some nutrients, but earing real fruit is far better- more antioxidants, more fiber, more filling. Medical and dietary associations are changing their tune about juice- used to be recommended, now more like desert or candy- an occasional indulgence but not a key part of a balanced diet. "A 6-oz glass of fruit juice equals 1 fruit serving. Fruit juice offers no nutritional advantage over whole fruit. In fact, fruit juice lacks the fiber of whole fruit. Kilocalorie for kilocalorie, fruit juice can be consumed more quickly than whole fruit" (American Academy of Pediatrics, 2005). "Look for 100 percent fruit juice as a snack or treat, but limit it to less than 8 oz. per day" (American Academy of Family Physicians, 2006). Most research is done looking at kids, but for somebody looking to cut some calories without feeling hungry, whole fruit is the way to go.
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    Aug 23, 2007 2:52 AM GMT
    err..."eating real fruit". Hi, proofreading.
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    Aug 23, 2007 3:00 AM GMT
    ok, first off i drink hardly any juice (much prefer to eat my calories)... and no soda whatsoever.

    the 3500 calories IS an estimation, but i do check labels and am pretty good in math and that kind of thing... however, i can reasonably say that I eat A LOT. For instance, every morning I start out with a bowl of oatmeal that is around 800 calories (oats, soymilk, protein powder, flaxseed)... and then i just keep going and going...

    what it comes down to is if i really want to look my peak, i need to get a bit more disciplined, munch on vegetables a bit more (though i already do a lot) and dont give into temptation when out in the city or on holiday.

    if anybody has any more input though, all the better...
    thanx
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    Aug 23, 2007 3:25 AM GMT
    dear hungry friend... has we says here in Chile..."Faith moves mountains... but guilt, moves the world"... take a look in the mirror and be your own critic, dont give up, fight the tempation and ask yourself if it worth it...no one but you can put the limits...
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    Aug 23, 2007 10:45 AM GMT
    Tabasco sauce actually kind of helped me. It increases acid production so you digest more efficiently. I put it in everything (Protein shakes, my water bottle, on veggies), but that's just because I like it.
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    Aug 23, 2007 5:09 PM GMT
    try eating small meals throughout the day. not three or two large meals. Drink lots of water.
    Stay away from salt or sodium products. Shift your weight training days and intensity of workouts, need to trick your body. Your muscles need change. Do more cardio. Not sure if that will help. I would not take ephedra.That is not wise to take. And of course lots of hot sex will burn calories too ;)
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    Aug 23, 2007 6:28 PM GMT
    Colm beat me to it, but I would also try adding some Tabasco sauce into your meals, where possible (or some other type of hot sauce). It tends to keep me from constantly feeling hungry. The only problem is that Tabasco does have a somewhat high sodium content (if I remember correctly), but since you only need to use a tiny bit I'm guessing it's not really a big deal.
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    Aug 23, 2007 6:36 PM GMT
    What? Do you mean "try adding some MORE tabasco sauce?" Isn't it one of the basic food groups? I mean, the reason that tabasco sauce and garlic aren't mentioned in every recipe, is that it is just ASSUMED that you add them as a matter of course. Right?
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    Aug 23, 2007 6:41 PM GMT
    Your baked goods must bring tears to peoples' eyes. And not tears of joy.