If the future happens first in California, the Republican Party has a problem.

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    Nov 10, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
    "LOS ANGELES — If the future happens first in California, the Republican Party has a problem.

    The nation's most populous state – home to 1 in 8 Americans – has entered a period of Democratic political control so far-reaching that the dwindling number of Republicans in the Legislature are in danger of becoming mere spectators at the statehouse."



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    Nov 10, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
    Caslon21000 said"LOS ANGELES — If the future happens first in California, the Republican Party has a problem.

    The nation's most populous state – home to 1 in 8 Americans – has entered a period of Democratic political control so far-reaching that the dwindling number of Republicans in the Legislature are in danger of becoming mere spectators at the statehouse."



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    So we have a democratic Governor and a legislator. So over the next few years are they responsible for what happens in California? or is it still the Govenator?

    I think sales taxes are to go up to 9 percent across the state with an income tax. I am just wondering where else they can get money from?
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    Nov 10, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    Caslon21000 said"LOS ANGELES — If the future happens first in California, the Republican Party has a problem.

    The nation's most populous state – home to 1 in 8 Americans – has entered a period of Democratic political control so far-reaching that the dwindling number of Republicans in the Legislature are in danger of becoming mere spectators at the statehouse."



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    So we have a democratic Governor and a legislator. So over the next few years are they responsible for what happens in California? or is it still the Govenator?

    I think sales taxes are to go up to 9 percent across the state with an income tax. I am just wondering where else they can get money from?


    Heh - yeah - based on this logic, I fear for the US. Forget about party. I suspect they'll also be asking for a bailout soon enough...
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    Nov 10, 2012 10:55 PM GMT
    ^ I'm biting my tongue. I'm biting my tongue...
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    Nov 10, 2012 10:57 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said^ I'm biting my tongue. I'm biting my tongue...


    Yes, because California is a model for fiscal leadership... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:02 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    coolarmydude said^ I'm biting my tongue. I'm biting my tongue...


    Yes, because California is a model for fiscal leadership... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Nope and it has nothing to do with politics nor California.... icon_twisted.gif
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:09 PM GMT
    So Mary Bono Mack, like her husband, is out.
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said^ I'm biting my tongue. I'm biting my tongue...


    Well I won't. The repub's bigotry was voted on and they lost because of that bigotry. A government needs representation, and if the repubs aren't will to address the foulness in their midst then that opposing representation is going to have to come from a third Party.

    As for Diddler, why he's even commenting is a mystery seeing as how he's abruptly accounced he's libertarian; he should never have been pumping the Repub side to begin with. Repubs are NOT libertarians.

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    Nov 10, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    coolarmydude said^ I'm biting my tongue. I'm biting my tongue...


    Well I won't. The repub's bigotry was voted on and they lost because of that bigotry. A government needs representation, and if the repubs aren't will to address the foulness in their midst then that opposing representation is going to have to come from a third Party.

    As for Diddler, why he's even commenting is a mystery seeing as how he's abruptly accounced he's libertarian; he should never have been pumping the Repub side to begin with. Repubs are NOT libertarians.


    That's not what I'm biting my tongue about and it has nothing to do with politics nor California....
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    coolarmydude said^ I'm biting my tongue. I'm biting my tongue...


    Well I won't. The repub's bigotry was voted on and they lost because of that bigotry. A government needs representation, and if the repubs aren't will to address the foulness in their midst then that opposing representation is going to have to come from a third Party.

    As for Diddler, why he's even commenting is a mystery seeing as how he's abruptly accounced he's libertarian; he should never have been pumping the Repub side to begin with. Repubs are NOT libertarians.

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    You think that 50% of America is bigoted and the other 50% isn't? Heh, that kinda makes you a massive idiot.

    And as for Republicans? I think you'll find that most libertarians ended up voting for the Republican party not because of social policies but because of concerns about the economic ones. Republicans are not libertarians as I've tried to point out to your mind over the years and I'm glad it's finally broken through ;)
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
    "You think that 50% of America is bigoted and the other 50% isn't?"

    I said no such thing, which makes you the idiot, or rather, as you are well known on RJ, the Riddiot.


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    PS and BTW any true libertarian will tell you it's about liberty first, hence the name. The Repubs were the antithesis of that with their nasty social agenda.

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    Nov 10, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    "You think that 50% of America is bigoted and the other 50% isn't?"

    I said no such thing, which makes you the idiot, or rather, as you are well known on RJ, the Riddiot.


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    PS and BTW any true libertarian will tell you it's about liberty first, hence the name. The Repubs were the antithesis of that with their nasty social agenda.


    Heh - your attempts to jump on the bandwagon is telling of your character icon_wink.gif - particularly given that there's only one guy who (publicly) calls me that and he's a curmudgeon who I admittedly pummelled him more than I should have given his gaps in knowledge in finance.

    Any true libertarian will also tell you that neither party is ideal and while there are some that will throw away their votes with the Libertarian party, the Republican party at least had the potential to reduce the harm to economic liberty. As for social liberties? What would the Republicans really have done? Sure there are some retrograde views in the party, but those are becoming increasingly rare - and increasingly so in the future - with limited powers to even act on them. You said "The repub's bigotry was voted on and they lost because of that bigotry". Well you do realize what the vote margin was?
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
    riddler78 said

    the Republican party at least had the potential to reduce the harm to economic liberty.



    REPUBLICANS CAUSED THE HARM TO ECONOMIC LIBERTY!!!!!

    No amount of revisionist history will ever change that, C.W.!

    Why does Wall Street not want to be regulated? Because they do not want to be held accountable for risking the economy again!
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:34 PM GMT
    Telling words right there "throw their votes away with the Libertarian Party"

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    Nov 10, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    meninlove said
    coolarmydude said^ I'm biting my tongue. I'm biting my tongue...


    Well I won't. The repub's bigotry was voted on and they lost because of that bigotry. A government needs representation, and if the repubs aren't will to address the foulness in their midst then that opposing representation is going to have to come from a third Party.

    As for Diddler, why he's even commenting is a mystery seeing as how he's abruptly accounced he's libertarian; he should never have been pumping the Repub side to begin with. Repubs are NOT libertarians.


    That's not what I'm biting my tongue about and it has nothing to do with politics nor California....



    I happen to know what you're biting your tongue about. My question is, why can't we spill the beans?
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    Nov 10, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said

    I happen to know what you're biting your tongue about. My question is, why can't we spill the beans?


    I wasn't told that I had to bite my tongue, but it's something I'm waiting for the right moment. And the ironic thing is, this self-serving douche is probably not even libertarian, but a communist, all things considered.
  • Webster666

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    Nov 10, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
    For some reason, a lot of gay Republicans don't have the balls to admit that they're Republican. So, they masquerade ad Libertarians. Roll my eyes. They're still idiots.
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    Nov 11, 2012 5:02 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said
    "You think that 50% of America is bigoted and the other 50% isn't?"

    I said no such thing, which makes you the idiot, or rather, as you are well known on RJ, the Riddiot.


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    PS and BTW any true libertarian will tell you it's about liberty first, hence the name. The Repubs were the antithesis of that with their nasty social agenda.


    Heh - your attempts to jump on the bandwagon is telling of your character icon_wink.gif - particularly given that there's only one guy who (publicly) calls me that and he's a curmudgeon who I admittedly pummelled him more than I should have given his gaps in knowledge in finance.

    Any true libertarian will also tell you that neither party is ideal and while there are some that will throw away their votes with the Libertarian party, the Republican party at least had the potential to reduce the harm to economic liberty. As for social liberties? What would the Republicans really have done? Sure there are some retrograde views in the party, but those are becoming increasingly rare - and increasingly so in the future - with limited powers to even act on them. You said "The repub's bigotry was voted on and they lost because of that bigotry". Well you do realize what the vote margin was?

    Really? The Republican party had the potential to reduce the harm to economic liberty? Can you please name a single Republican president who hasn't raised taxes nor heavily increased deficit spending (ultimately necessitating an increase in taxes)? Well? Or are Republicans just talk?

    Increasingly rare retrograde views in the party? Really? So Romney, most Republican candidates, and their 2012 Platform all supported equal rights for gay people? Hmm?

    And with limited powers to even act on them on those retrograde views? Well of course. BECAUSE DEMOCRATS ARE CHECKING REPUBLICANS' POWER. It's certainly not because Republicans are any less likely to want too impose their retrograde views if they could.

    Face it: Republicans ARE NOT the party of rights or liberties.