The chart kinda speaks for itself....ok, Fox News didnt broadcast it.

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    Nov 11, 2012 2:12 AM GMT
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    Nov 11, 2012 2:51 AM GMT
    Oh Caslon21000, you didn't do your research icon_rolleyes.gif

    So, I did my research on this and found that it was someone on the website HappyPlace.com who made this, NOT FOX NEWS.

    He based this picture on two seperate documents.
    The first is an article done by the Wall Street Journal (and on the Fox Business Website) that did reasearch on the percentage of the population that obtained a bachelors, and found the median household income, and the poverty level. In said article, the top 10 best educated and worst educated states were listed, but again, it was based on the percentage of the population who obtained a bachelors degree, and those who didn't.

    Combine the above infomation with the breakdown of the states won by Obama, and Romney, and viola, a misleading add.

    Here are the two articles for those who want to check my work:

    http://www.happyplace.com/19076/election-infographic-shows-most-educated-states-voted-for-obama

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/10/15/americas-best-and-worst-educated-states/

    Don't believe everything you read people. Just because you put one and one together doesn't mean Fox news directly made this and directly insulted the 10 states listed under Worst Educated. This guy was just trying to put the two together to mislead people. (Not you Caslon, the guy on HappyPlace.com)
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    Nov 11, 2012 2:58 AM GMT
    Republicanism is a fascinating condition. PRAY FOR A CURE.


    Here's Another Comparison between Dems and Repubs:

    " differences have also been found in moral judgements,

    with liberals more morally offended by suffering and inequality

    and conservatives more morally offended by betrayals of the in-group, disrespect for authority and tradition, and signs of sexual or spiritual "impurity".

    (Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, vol 24, p 1657).
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    Nov 11, 2012 2:59 AM GMT
    ok ... a reader made it and sent it to happyplace. That would make more sense, since even Fox News would see how this plays.

    But the point is still the same.
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    Nov 11, 2012 3:07 AM GMT
    " Several studies in the 2003 analysis showed that

    conservatives have a higher need for "cognitive closure" - wanting to turn uncertainties into certainties and ambiguity into clarity -

    while liberals had a higher need for cognition itself, enjoying deliberation and mental challenges. "

    TRANSLATION:

    CONSERVATIVES PREFER TO KEEP THEIR MINDS CLOSED TO NEW IDEAS.

    LIBERALS ARE OPEN TO INFORMATION THAT CHALLENGES THEIR OPINIONS.
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    Nov 11, 2012 3:10 AM GMT
    JockTheVote saidRepublicanism is a fascinating condition. PRAY FOR A CURE.


    Here's Another Comparison between Dems and Repubs:

    " differences have also been found in moral judgements,

    with liberals more morally offended by suffering and inequality

    and conservatives more morally offended by betrayals of the in-group, disrespect for authority and tradition, and signs of sexual or spiritual "impurity".

    (Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, vol 24, p 1657).


    Republicans pray they can cure homosexuality, and you pray to cure republicanism? I've said it before, I'll say it again, ACCEPTANCE and CIVILITY ARE KEY.

    Not all republicans are bad. Just like not all democrats are bad. (And yes there are some bad democrats) Theres always a few bad apples in the bunch.

    Though you bring up good points about the democrats, and their points are definitely more important, the conservative points are still valid. Betrayal on any level is bad. Just as disrespect is bad on any level. Their beliefs on sexuality are obviously dated, but you can't blame them, some people just cling to tradition. Its not good or bad, it just is.
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    Nov 11, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    Caslon21000 saidBut the point is still the same.


    ... Um ... Not really....

    There is a difference between having a B.A. and being educated on politics. This add tries to say that the educated vote for Obama, while the uneducated vote Republican.

    No one in my family has an education above a high school degree, so I find this insulting personally. My Dad, and most of my extended family are democrats. So does that mean Obama is the bad choice, just because "uneducated" people vote for him? No. What about all the other immigrants and minorities who vote for him?

    What's important is someone is POLITICALLY EDUCATED. And it also has to do with their views, and values.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but when people are misled by "gotcha" articles like this, they insult not just Fox News, but minorities who can be just as educated, if not more so, than someone with a B.A.
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    Nov 11, 2012 3:29 AM GMT
    Caslon21000 said The chart kinda speaks for itself....ok, Fox News didnt broadcasted it.
    As much as you fuck with people about grammar and stuff, one would think you'd be more precise about your own. icon_cool.gif
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    Nov 11, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
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    Caslon21000 said The chart kinda speaks for itself....ok, Fox News didnt broadcasted it.
    As much as you fuck with people about grammar and stuff, one would think you'd be more precise about your own. icon_cool.gif

    I dont know what you're talking about. icon_cool.gif
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    Nov 11, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    Caslon21000 said
    paulflexes said
    Caslon21000 said The chart kinda speaks for itself....ok, Fox News didnt broadcasted it.
    As much as you fuck with people about grammar and stuff, one would think you'd be more precise about your own. icon_cool.gif

    I dont know what you're talking about. icon_cool.gif
    You misspelled ur.
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    Nov 11, 2012 3:40 AM GMT
    "What's important is someone is POLITICALLY EDUCATED."

    TRUE!

    As I see it, THE NEW and MOST IMPORTANT DEMOGRAPHIC

    is not Black...Latino...Women...or Gays.

    It is THE INFORMED VOTER.

    In large part because of citizen journalists....(and waiters with cellphone videocams)

    a political candidate CAN NO LONGER DISRESPECT 47% of Americans...

    and then LIE, LIE , LIE

    on every other policy he's proclaimed.

    EVERYTHING IS DOCUMENTED NOW.

    Romney learned this the hard way.

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    Nov 11, 2012 3:54 AM GMT
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    WaytoDawn said...Don't believe everything you read people. Just because you put one and one together doesn't mean Fox news directly made this and directly insulted the 10 states listed under Worst Educated. This guy was just trying to put the two together to mislead people.

    OMG, what a travesty!

    On the scale of "misleading", help me hammer out the importance of this deception:

    1) is it bigger than "The president sold Chrysler to the Italians and now Jeep is moving all of its production to China"?

    2) is it bigger than "I ran the marathon in 2 hrs and 46 minutes"?

    3) is it bigger than "Obama doubled the debt"?

    (I could go on and on and on.)

    Regale us with your "fair and balanced" prowess, dear conservative....we're all ears. icon_rolleyes.gif

    You guys are a pathetic joke....I don't know how you can say the shit that oozes out of your mouth with a straight face. icon_neutral.gif


    icon_neutral.gif *sigh* Does anyone hear me? Or do you just have selective hearing? CIVILITY IS KEY TO ANY GOOD CONVERSATION.

    Before you try to get me in a "gotcha" moment, try at least being civil so I can actually answer you, instead of trying to lead the conversation down a totally pointless path.

    1. I never claimed to be fair or balanced. I have my views, and in my opinion everyone is biased. NO ONE IS FAIR AND BALANCED.

    2. I hate ANY misleading information. Any rational and fair person should.

    3. I hate "gotcha" moments on any situation. Fox does it, just as CNN, MSNBC, and every other news company does. If I have it in my power to try to stop it before it starts, I'm gonna try, even if I have to take crap from you, and others like you.

    4. You ask me to look in the mirror, but I ask you to look into your soul. Are you happy being so mean for no reason? Does it bring you joy? Do you not care about being fair? Is all you care about being right? I admit to not always knowing what I'm talking about, but if you want to call me on it, do it with facts.

    For what it's worth, I've seen you around the forums, and you seem like a great guy. Maybe I just caught you on a bad day, I don't know.

    I just hope that if you see this, you understand that you don't gain respect by being cruel, you gain respect by handling yourself well, and being a good example for others. (At least in my book)

    If you want the win for the argument its yours. Congratulations. I just hope you did this for the right reasons, not just because of hate and intolerance of other views.
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    Nov 11, 2012 4:01 AM GMT
    JockTheVote said"What's important is someone is POLITICALLY EDUCATED."

    TRUE!

    As I see it, THE NEW and MOST IMPORTANT DEMOGRAPHIC

    is not Black...Latino...Women...or Gays.

    It is THE INFORMED VOTER.

    In large part because of citizen journalists....(and waiters with cellphone videocams)

    a political candidate CAN NO LONGER DISRESPECT 47% of Americans...

    and then LIE, LIE , LIE

    on every other policy he's proclaimed.

    EVERYTHING IS DOCUMENTED NOW.

    Romney learned this the hard way.



    I'm glad we can agree on this. icon_biggrin.gif The thing I find most annoying is the uninformed voter.

    I love it when people are able to show the true side of politicians. It means they helped the country dodge a bullet.
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    Nov 12, 2012 6:16 AM GMT
    Concerning the uninformed voter:

    I was reading that that was the reason so many people who get their news ONLY from Faux News were "shellshocked" when the election results came in. That includes the Republicans on RJ who insisted that they knew what the election results would be. Hopefully, a lot of people will lose faith in Faux News.
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    Nov 12, 2012 1:37 PM GMT
    I wouldn't categorize it as "Best" or "Worst."
    I think the terms should be "More" and "Less"
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    Nov 12, 2012 5:05 PM GMT


    "Combine the above infomation with the breakdown of the states won by Obama, and Romney, and viola, a misleading add. "

    What does string playing have to do with it? other than, perhaps, a further reflection of education levels? icon_biggrin.gif

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    Nov 12, 2012 5:29 PM GMT
    WaytoDawn said
    JockTheVote said"What's important is someone is POLITICALLY EDUCATED."

    TRUE!

    As I see it, THE NEW and MOST IMPORTANT DEMOGRAPHIC

    is not Black...Latino...Women...or Gays.

    It is THE INFORMED VOTER.

    In large part because of citizen journalists....(and waiters with cellphone videocams)

    a political candidate CAN NO LONGER DISRESPECT 47% of Americans...

    and then LIE, LIE , LIE

    on every other policy he's proclaimed.

    EVERYTHING IS DOCUMENTED NOW.

    Romney learned this the hard way.



    I'm glad we can agree on this. icon_biggrin.gif The thing I find most annoying is the uninformed voter.

    I love it when people are able to show the true side of politicians. It means they helped the country dodge a bullet.



    Thanks for your honest contribution.

    It seems even after you pointed out something was wrong with the post some still want to rationalize why its still OK to disparage people on intelligence.

    I mean the only way someone could not vote for Obama is because they are stupid and uninformed.
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    Nov 12, 2012 6:21 PM GMT
    Obama received:

    93% of Black Voters;

    73% of Asian Voters;

    71% of Latino Voters;

    55% of Women Voters;

    and,

    71% of 18-29 age group.

    That presents a dim future for the GOP.
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    musclmed said
    WaytoDawn said
    JockTheVote said"What's important is someone is POLITICALLY EDUCATED."

    TRUE!

    As I see it, THE NEW and MOST IMPORTANT DEMOGRAPHIC

    is not Black...Latino...Women...or Gays.

    It is THE INFORMED VOTER.

    In large part because of citizen journalists....(and waiters with cellphone videocams)

    a political candidate CAN NO LONGER DISRESPECT 47% of Americans...

    and then LIE, LIE , LIE

    on every other policy he's proclaimed.

    EVERYTHING IS DOCUMENTED NOW.

    Romney learned this the hard way.



    I'm glad we can agree on this. icon_biggrin.gif The thing I find most annoying is the uninformed voter.

    I love it when people are able to show the true side of politicians. It means they helped the country dodge a bullet.



    Thanks for your honest contribution.

    It seems even after you pointed out something was wrong with the post some still want to rationalize why its still OK to disparage people on intelligence.

    I mean the only way someone could not vote for Obama is because they are stupid and uninformed.


    Um ... Thanks? icon_neutral.gif