Sep 06, 2008 11:28 AM GMT
really make you a "war hero"?
Koaa2 saidNo, and as a Veteran myself, I think it is a bunch of baloney.
Here is a Video and group that is trying to look into it.
I hope this gains some traction.
coolarmydude said"Country First": Our people ARE our country and the current policies do no empower them to make this country first. Republicans would truly make "Country First" a reality if they would take the back seat and "own their failures."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108010/Bush-Congress-Supreme-Court-Near-Historical-Low-Approval.aspxAccording to the June 9-12 Gallup Poll, 30% of Americans approve of the job George W. Bush is doing as president. That figure is two percentage points better than his personal low rating of 28%, which he has received four times in the past two months. The all-time low approval rating for any president in Gallup annals is 22% for Harry Truman in 1952.
NoNameGuy saidreally make you a "war hero"?
coolarmydude said A lot of what Obama says about what America needs to do to become a better society and a stronger nation resonates with what I already felt on my own. John McCain leaves me feeling nauseous, dirty and used.
Strength builds from the foundation up - everyone is empowered. Under the Republicans, they would rather strength trickle down.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtmlObama was known in the Illinois Capitol as a consistently liberal senator who reflected the views of voters in his Chicago district. He helped reform the state death penalty system and create tax breaks for the poor while developing a reputation as someone who would work with critics to build consensus.
Gibbs noted Obama's leadership on legislation requiring police to videotape interrogations in murder cases. It started out as a controversial idea but ended up passing the Senate unanimously.
Allies and opponents alike say he listened to those who disagreed, cooperated with Republicans and incorporated other people's suggestions for improving legislation.
"He was looked upon by members of both parties as someone whose view we listened carefully to," said Republican state Sen. Kirk Dillard from Hinsdale, Ill.
That's one reason Illinois business groups gave Obama a low rating, while labor groups praised him. But even Obama's allies say he refused to become a rubber stamp for their legislation.
"He always wants to understand an issue and think it through," said Roberta Lynch, deputy director for Council 31 of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. "You have to make your case no matter who you are."
On the other hand, Obama parted company with gun control advocates when he backed a measure to let retired police officers and military police carry concealed weapons.
During his last two years, Democrats controlled the chamber and he was the go-to guy on a variety of issues. He helped pass legislation overhauling Illinois' troubled capital punishment system and was a key figure in requiring a massive statewide study of traffic stops to look for signs of racial profiling. Although police groups opposed the legislation, they say Obama listened to their concerns and accepted some of their suggestions to improve the bill.
Even when he was in the political minority, Obama sometimes played a critical role. He helped write one of the rare ethics laws in a state known for government corruption and worked on welfare reform with Republicans.
Colbert_Nation saidI might just be reading into this thread as cutting into McCain's military service, and hope that's NOT the case. It could be me just being thick-headed again.
Attacking an opponent's strength, a classic Karl Rove move, is VILE to say the least. McCain deserves proper recognition as a war hero just like John Kerry deserved his. Like Max Cleland deserved his. Nobody should have something noble that they've done crapped on.
coolarmydude saidRepublicans hate Democratic veterans.
Last year, I was in Afghanistan. Every Friday and Saturday night, about a dozen of us would get together to play some poker. One night, a few people showed up early and the table was set. While we were waiting for the other half to show, some of us were talking politics. I was the lone Democratic voice. After round and round of discussion, all of it mutual and respectful, my roommate came out to tell me that, "Anyone who serves in the military as a Democrat is stupid." I didn't respond as I was dumbfounded at his statement. Later on, I thought about it some more and got really angry. Republicans criticize Democrats on military support matters in Congress, but yet, when a Democrat serves alongside in the military, they still have room to criticize a Democrat. Unreal.
I also love how ignorant Republican servicemembers are on McCain's voting record towards the military and veterans. It was brought to my attention by a Republican servicemember in 2000 that he has a poor record of supporting troops, something that even surprised me. I'm willing to bet that that same person is now proudly supporting McCain, bumper sticker and all.