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Is it OK to date someone that you are (kinda) related to?
terryf Posts: 115	Sep 06, 2008 5:00 PM GMT Quote I just read on some other site that one guy happened to found out that he & his bf are related.Well,not that close.Their grandfathers(one from father`s side,the other from mother`s) are cousins.His bf seems really bothered by this and didn`t want to see him anymore.But the guy that posted still wants him. I wondered what`s your guys take on this?If it`s not ok,why?And if it is OK,where will you draw the line?

AshLeon Posts: 148	Sep 06, 2008 6:53 PM GMT Quote That's the kind of excuse I'd give a guy who I was looking to break up with, honestly. What I'm saying is I don't think the problem is that the grandparents are related, so the guy needs to sit down and have a talk with this other guy to see what the problem actually is.
Squarejaw Posts: 909	Sep 06, 2008 7:17 PM GMT Quote If someone can explain to me why two consenting adults shouldn't date each other even if they're brothers, I'd be much obliged.
auryn Posts: 1585	Sep 06, 2008 7:29 PM GMT Quote Because, Squarejaw, their babies could come out with deformities and/or mental handicaps. Oh wait, we're talking about same-sex couples... never mind. (yes, I was kidding)
KissingPro Posts: 353	Sep 06, 2008 7:36 PM GMT Quote As long as we don't find you at the bottom of a huge huddle of cousins and brothers, having to pick them off of you left and right.
metropolitan Posts: 556	Sep 06, 2008 7:56 PM GMT Quote Squarejaw saidIf someone can explain to me why two consenting adults shouldn't date each other even if they're brothers, I'd be much obliged. I agree with you, though it's still strange. I would break up with a relative, but that's just me.
GuiltyGear Posts: 2825	Sep 06, 2008 8:03 PM GMT Quote Depends on what kinds of boundaries you people enjoy in your life. For me, I like clear boundaries between family and bed mates. To me, both relationships can create a very valuable bond between two people, but those bonds are very different and complete with a whole seperate set of emotions/affection/love. I for one would never want to feel the same feelings I feel for a lover for a brother. Actually, damn...didn't want to devulge this, i've been there. It's a place that is very dark and hard to explain. Plainly put, a bond has already been set between you and him as you are brothers: I think overlaying a romantic bond over it just was simply overload. Furthermore, there is no future in dating your brother. Dating, lol, let's face it: fucking your brother. And, we all know relationships based just on sex often crumble ugly. If you don't mind ruining a perfectly good family bond with a loved one, go ahead, shag away. This example though is not like the OP's example. Those guys didn't know and weren't closely related. They don't have any past or deep seated familiar emotions to get in the way. However, if they were brothers having been raised together. I wouldn't recommend it. A familiar bond is something sacred that should be protected and kept pure not corrupted by things like pure sexual desire, lust, or passion.
KissingPro Posts: 353	Sep 06, 2008 8:24 PM GMT Quote Squarejaw saidIf someone can explain to me why two consenting adults shouldn't date each other even if they're brothers, I'd be much obliged. EEWWWW....Having sex with one of my brothers? I can't get a handle around that. I don't feel sexual passion for my brothers. EWWWW! It's like thinking about your mom and dad having sex. EEWWW.
Koaa2 Posts: 475	Sep 06, 2008 8:29 PM GMT Quote My best friend and his first cousin were lovers for 16 years. Made for some interesting family stories. They were open to all and never had any problems from anyone.
steltom Posts: 133	Sep 06, 2008 9:01 PM GMT Quote As 2 consenting same sex adults... don't think it's such a big deal. Most of the "rules" about this type of thing have something to do w/birth defects... though I'm not sleeping w/my brother, NO WAY... There are a couple cousins that, well, I'd prb go for it...
Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 06, 2008 11:01 PM GMT Quote There's a cousin I would go for. Tall, built, blonde and he builds race cars. Mmmmm
sexysamer Posts: 1768	Sep 06, 2008 11:18 PM GMT Quote I don't think it matters. Far cousins aren't really related, they are far far far related...
gymguy1 Posts: 995	Sep 06, 2008 11:50 PM GMT Quote I would brake up. To me, its just all types of wrong. I was watching a show ( on Logo or Here network). And there were two half brothers that were in a relationship. To me that is just gross.
Caslon7000 Posts: 7952	Sep 07, 2008 12:21 AM GMT Quote Let's they had the same great-great-grandparents....that makes them hmmm.. great great grandparents > great grand parents = siblings >> grand parents = cousins >>> parents = second cousins >>>> selves = third cousins ...third cousins
metropolitan Posts: 556	Sep 07, 2008 12:26 AM GMT Quote Wedding between royalty used to be within relatives
Gemini Posts: 47	Sep 07, 2008 12:44 AM GMT Quote If I didn't know the person I'm dating is related to me when we start out, I would continue dating them even after knowing. It's not like either one of us is going to be giving birth to babies with birth defects anyway... =(
Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 07, 2008 12:47 AM GMT Quote From the way you describe it, they're not even related by blood right? They're kinda like second cousins in law or something like that. I fully expect to be vilified for what I'm about to say, but I think gays and lesbians should be able to date even their brother. As was already mentioned, they can't have kids anyway, and that's the ONLY logical reason not to have an incestuous relationship. You can come up with pseudo-moral reasons, or cultural reason, but the only reason based on scientific fact is that genetic deformities are common among incestuous relationships. Besides, God condoned incest in the Bible, in Genesis, when he let Lot's daughters get him drunk and have sex with him, since they thought they were the last people left on earth after Sodom and Gomorrah got nuked. If God opposed incest, he would have killed them I would think, I mean he just nuked a town for being inhospitable, I would think incest would be worse, right? But I digress. If someone can present a good scientific reason why gay dudes or lesbians can't date their relatives, I would be happy to hear it and consider it.
Satyricon331 Posts: 318	Sep 07, 2008 12:49 AM GMT Quote gymguy1 saidI would brake up. To me, its just all types of wrong. I was watching a show ( on Logo or Here network). And there were two half brothers that were in a relationship. To me that is just gross. Many people find homosexuality "just gross." Don't you care you're being a hypocrite? I'm not going to take a position whether gay incest is wrong or not here, but if you're going to condemn them then you need an actual justification in some deeper moral theory. "Just gross" doesn't cut it.
MunchingZombi... Posts: 2095	Sep 07, 2008 12:56 AM GMT Quote Auryn saidBecause, Squarejaw, their babies could come out with deformities and/or mental handicaps. Oh wait, we're talking about same-sex couples... never mind. (yes, I was kidding) So, incest is ok as long as you don't have babies. I mean, my parents are brother and sister and their sexual relationship is ok because they use protection. Granted, they are also Catholic and don't believe in contraception and use the rhythm method for protection. There was bound to be a few mistakes.
Sedative Posts: 5407	Sep 07, 2008 4:10 AM GMT Quote As gay men and women, we do not have any reason at all why the incest taboo should be in place for us, except of course, possible psychological damage. As long as they are happy and no one is forcing anyone, I don't see why not. But yeah eeew on my own brother. LOL. But I do have this cousin...
ObsceneWish Posts: 3364	Sep 07, 2008 4:29 AM GMT Quote The incest taboo predates any explicit mention of birth defects. Interestingly, it is related to the foundation of "modern" psychology. Freud's thinking is grounded in the Oedipus myth as written by Sophocles -- a tale of incest. Freud, in one of the essays in "Totem and Taboo," theorizes (as I recall) that the taboo is in place to keep the son from submitting to his sexual attraction to his mother and committing patricide to get his father out of the way. He calls these two laws, against incest and patricide, the foundation of civilization and describes their evolution in terms of the "primal horde." It's an interesting, if kooky theory. If you don't take it literally, it is about creating and maintaining order in families without the insanity of sexual attraction and competition.
Sedative Posts: 5407	Sep 07, 2008 4:47 AM GMT Quote obscenewish saidThe incest taboo predates any explicit mention of birth defects. Interestingly, it is related to the foundation of "modern" psychology. Freud's thinking is grounded in the Oedipus myth as written by Sophocles -- a tale of incest. Freud, in one of the essays in "Totem and Taboo," theorizes (as I recall) that the taboo is in place to keep the son from submitting to his sexual attraction to his mother and committing patricide to get his father out of the way. He calls these two laws, against incest and patricide, the foundation of civilization and describes their evolution in terms of the "primal horde." It's an interesting, if kooky theory. If you don't take it literally, it is about creating and maintaining order in families without the insanity of sexual attraction and competition. What could've started it then? Encouragement to intermarry between clans? How about the opposite, Electra complex? hehe though women are far less likely to commit matricide. heh. Freud is indeed kooky. But yeah, I do see his point. Sexual competition destroys the cooperation of the family unit. And also interesting to note that even the traditonal ancient greek practice of pederasty had an incest limitation. The older man must not be of immediate family to the youth.
ObsceneWish Posts: 3364	Sep 07, 2008 5:02 AM GMT Quote Well, we could go further. Since Freud, in a theory he later abandoned, initially associated homosexuality with an unresolved Oedipus Complex, you could argue that homosexuality is also a means of prohibiting incest since it supposedly arrests normal heterosexual development (by which attraction to the mother, in the presence of a weak father, could be consummated). "The Electra Complex" is a Jungian term. Freud's description of the Oedipal formulation between daughter and father is just bizarre at best, since it depends on the notion of penis envy and the assumption that mommy has caused the girl to be castrated, etc. The effect is the same -- to prohibit incest.
Sedative Posts: 5407	Sep 07, 2008 5:11 AM GMT Quote I wonder if Freud could even look at a banana and not think Dick! LOL
MunchingZombi... Posts: 2095	Sep 07, 2008 5:16 AM GMT Quote Sedative saidI wonder if Freud could even look at a banana and not think Dick! LOL Sometimes a banana is just a banana.
Crimthann Posts: 779	Sep 07, 2008 6:36 AM GMT Quote well, I lost my cherry to my Uncle. It was damn hot too.
Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 07, 2008 6:54 AM GMT Quote Caslon6000 saidLet's they had the same great-great-grandparents....that makes them hmmm.. great great grandparents > great grand parents = siblings >> grand parents = cousins >>> parents = second cousins >>>> selves = third cousins ...third cousins Third cousins (zero times removed)... So that's only 1/16th of their genetics they have in common. Even for a straight couple I don't think that's enough to make an alien baby. Which is where, I assume, the taboo comes from (birth defects from inbreeding). If you consider that a few generations back, most of their ancestors were dating around the village, or neighboring villages... being third cousins is probably more genetically diverse than what their ancestors were up to. Or what many royal family members are (still) up to.
sexysamer Posts: 1768	Sep 07, 2008 7:17 AM GMT Quote My parent come from the same village in (West Bank) Palestine and all the people from the same village come from same father. My aunt married to her first cousin, but her first cousin have different grandma. That is like half cousin.
looknrnd Posts: 434	Sep 07, 2008 7:38 AM GMT Quote metropolitan saidWedding between royalty used to be within relatives Well, let's just make them Queen and Queen of Incestland then! This entire thread is icky. YUCK! If you're closely related enough to know (or your parents know) the common relatives, it's too close. I know we've been the ones limited in the past, but just because we have to fight for rights because of our sexual partners doesn't mean there aren't limits out there.
Sedative Posts: 5407	Sep 07, 2008 9:54 AM GMT Quote Has anybody else seen this very good short movie, Starcrossed?
buddha_the_go... Posts: 109	Sep 07, 2008 10:23 AM GMT Quote Oh incest is mostly bad because it minimizes the gene variation and may let recessive genes that are connected to certain diseases... well etc etc. Of course people probably did not know about that since way back. Other than that, based on the minimizing variation, more frequent mutations by incest usually appear after some generations of repeated act. I'm not too much against it, seeing as my parents are cousins 8D
terryf Posts: 115	Sep 07, 2008 1:24 PM GMT Quote OK,sed &ob you guys totally lost me. I had some psychology class but man read those give me headaches. Guess I would share some info.In China back in about more than 100 years ago,marriage between (straight) cousins was always an option.It is sometimes even encouraged since both families knew each other very well to see if the boy and the girl would get along and it could "cement old ties".But the strange thing is there still was some taboo.If the kids were both related from father`s side then it`s forbidden.If one of them(or both)were related from mother`s side then its OK.In fact my own grandfather(from my mother`s side) got parents who were cousins.But of course it is not allowed anymore.
Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 07, 2008 1:30 PM GMT Quote Sedative saidHas anybody else seen this very good short movie, Starcrossed? I liked the musical piece in this promo, does anyone know what it's called? I know they use it on a ton of promos, but I can never find it.
ObsceneWish Posts: 3364	Sep 07, 2008 2:15 PM GMT Quote Sedative saidI wonder if Freud could even look at a banana and not think Dick! LOL OMG...That never crossed my mind!
bdogs11 Posts: 6	Sep 07, 2008 2:19 PM GMT Quote What state were they from? That would help with my decision. My ex had two straight brothers and always said he was dying for a chance to fool around with either of them. The very idea seems a little creepy to me. Thinking of my own brothers that way does turn my stomach though. I do have a few hot cousins, but still not a chance. This one second cousin I have? ... Let's just say he wouldn't have to get me too drunk. I guess whatever two consenting adults decide on is their business, but for me; rolling around with my older brother's curious friends just worked out so much better!
Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 07, 2008 2:26 PM GMT Quote What's the red state motto? If you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in the family.
Ghen Posts: 471	Sep 07, 2008 2:46 PM GMT Quote RBY71 saidWhat's the red state motto? If you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in the family. Classic
Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 07, 2008 2:55 PM GMT Quote I love how the rich elite have us all believing that the poor "redneck" is into incest when they are the biggest supporters of incest themselves. From royalty to robber barons, they all keep it in the family. At least "redneck" try to keep it to distant cousins if they live in a really rural area. The rich elite will marry sisters and blood cousins.
Satyricon331 Posts: 318	Sep 07, 2008 3:04 PM GMT Quote looknrnd said This entire thread is icky. YUCK! [. . .] I know we've been the ones limited in the past, but just because we have to fight for rights because of our sexual partners doesn't mean there aren't limits out there. Yep, there are limits, but they don't come from "icky" or "yuck." That argument is intellectually bereft, and moreover it supports banning homosexuality, or even religious diversity - anything really. I read about a study earlier this year, which I cannot for the life of me find on Google Scholar, which found that the degree to which siblings found each other sexually repulsive correlated directly with the extent to which they each observed their mother nurturing the other sibling as an infant or toddler. IIRC, the researchers speculated that socialization against incest prompted the residual disgust. It's perfectly possible to accept that having relations with your sibling is disgusting to you while recognizing that not everyone will feel the same way about their own siblings. Again I'm not going to take a stance on what's morally right or wrong here, but these really ignorant arguments based on "eww" are ridiculous.
mikeeugene Posts: 24	Sep 07, 2008 3:07 PM GMT Quote Back to the original question. If it were a hetero couple looking to marry, this would not be illegal. I know that people whose parents are cousins (grandparents siblings) can legally marry in all states. That said, in this situation, if the one guy is freaked out by it, the relationship won't work out at all.
metropolitan Posts: 556	Sep 07, 2008 3:12 PM GMT Quote Crimthann saidwell, I lost my cherry to my Uncle. It was damn hot too. It think that's so wrong. It's one of the stereotypes I'm trying to fight. Just because your a gay uncle, it doesn't mean you'll rape your nieces or nephews. I love my niece and nephews so much, but almost like if they were my children, not in a sick sad way.
terryf Posts: 115	Sep 07, 2008 3:54 PM GMT Quote mikeeugene saidBack to the original question. If it were a hetero couple looking to marry, this would not be illegal. I know that people whose parents are cousins (grandparents siblings) can legally marry in all states. That`s interesting.I think in China it is the same.I might have to double-check.
ucla_matta Posts: 33	Sep 07, 2008 4:00 PM GMT Quote Only appropriate in Kentucky, otherwise, I wouldn't recommend it.
Crimthann Posts: 779	Sep 07, 2008 4:09 PM GMT Quote metropolitan said Crimthann saidwell, I lost my cherry to my Uncle. It was damn hot too. It think that's so wrong. It's one of the stereotypes I'm trying to fight. Just because your a gay uncle, it doesn't mean you'll rape your nieces or nephews. I love my niece and nephews so much, but almost like if they were my children, not in a sick sad way. Oh it wasn't him who raped me.
Global_Citize... Posts: 946	Sep 07, 2008 4:31 PM GMT Quote Franklin Roosevelt and Elenor Roosevelt were first cousins. So close in fact that her maiden name didn't change when she got married. I can't see how this distant relationship would freak anyone out. The cultural taboo against relations with a relative is rooted in the fears of genetic problems being manifest in offspring. In a same sex couple, this isn't even of any concern. I agree with AshLeon. This sounds like a pretext.
Global_Citize... Posts: 946	Sep 07, 2008 4:39 PM GMT Quote conativejj saidIf God opposed incest, he would have killed them I would think, I mean he just nuked a town for being inhospitable, I would think incest would be worse, right? But I digress. Wrong, you liberal revisionist! God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they were full of queers!
RyanReBoRn Posts: 569	Sep 07, 2008 4:43 PM GMT Quote Global_Citizen said conativejj saidIf God opposed incest, he would have killed them I would think, I mean he just nuked a town for being inhospitable, I would think incest would be worse, right? But I digress. Wrong, you liberal revisionist! God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they were full of queers! And you're WRONG! God destroyed Sodom for the sin of some HETERO sin. It is written: "Even as Sedom and `Amorah, and the cities around them, having, in the same way as these, given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire." STRANGE FLESH? The Greek term is: "σαρκὸς ἑτέρας" -- HETERO, SARKOS. Notice the term is "HETERO". Many scholars generally agree that Sodom idolized sexual relations with angels -- perhaps as a religious cult. The 'visitors' from God who arrived at Lot's house in the account of Sodom were indeed identified as angels, & the proclivity of the crowd that surrounded Lot's house may have tended to violence, & potentially the eventual gang-rape of the strangers (angels). But keep in mind, these were ANGELS who appeared outwardly as men; - not actual men! This activity,- by the very definition in the text about Sodom's sin, - is HETERO-SEXUAL (Sex with the 'Other' - 'Strange flesh' - 'men with angels' - 'mating other kinds'). This starkly contrasts Adam's exclamation about Eve being 'flesh of his flesh' (like flesh) ... or technically, HOMO if translated back into Greek! The implications of this distinction are serious; often running completely counter to common social beliefs & exposing modern social moirés about sexuality to be severely flawed. Technically, a man who describes himself as HETERO-sexual is professing the same sexual proclivities as Sodom! Such a person may insist that by "Hetero", they mean "with the opposite sex"; But the account of creation makes clear that the genders are same FLESH - "HOMO SARKOS" - not HETERO! The solution to this curse is to stop thinking in terms of "HOMO" - or - "HETERO"! Reject the illusion of a 'pure gender dichotomy'! Such a thing does not exist in nature!
Global_Citize... Posts: 946	Sep 07, 2008 4:47 PM GMT Quote Crimthann saidwell, I lost my cherry to my Uncle. It was damn hot too. As an uncle of several nephews, that is unthinkable to me. And dare I ask how old you were at the time?
Global_Citize... Posts: 946	Sep 07, 2008 4:57 PM GMT Quote RyanReBoRn said And you're WRONG! God destroyed Sodom for the sin of some HETERO sin. Did you see where I inserted the little rolling eyes emoticon? Read that as sarcasm.
Crimthann Posts: 779	Sep 07, 2008 11:31 PM GMT Quote Global_Citizen said Crimthann saidwell, I lost my cherry to my Uncle. It was damn hot too. As an uncle of several nephews, that is unthinkable to me. And dare I ask how old you were at the time? 13
Timberoo Posts: 2810	Sep 07, 2008 11:58 PM GMT Quote I think anything past first cousins is ok.
Caslon7000 Posts: 7952	Sep 08, 2008 12:12 AM GMT Quote Timberoo saidI think anything past first cousins is ok. first cousin once removed?
dowal Posts: 365	Sep 08, 2008 12:53 AM GMT Quote If the two parties involved are consenting adults and assuming that they will not reproduce, it's difficult to find a good reason why they shouldn't date. But that's just my opinion.
polobutt Posts: 795	Sep 08, 2008 12:56 AM GMT Quote metropolitan saidWedding between royalty used to be within relatives Then if they're both queens... It's perfect
Guy101 Posts: 876	Sep 08, 2008 1:14 AM GMT Quote If people wanna do that sort of thing then I say kudos. I, however, could and would never have any kind of relations with anyone of my family on a sexual level. It just seems wrong and the mer thought of it is a little disturbing. To me it's on the same page as having sex with your mother/father. There was story of something slike this in Australia where a daughter married her 60-something year old father and they produced a kid. That's rather disturbing. If they are cousins of the other kind like say "married-in" cousins then I could maybe see the attraction since technically they aren't related by blood but even then thatis sort of stretch and just no for me. Kudos to ya''ll who think otherwise. Guess when pickings are slim you can always check the family within.
HighVoltageGu... Posts: 1263	Sep 08, 2008 1:31 AM GMT Quote A co-worker of mine found out that the guy he was dating at one time was actually his cousin. I don't see anything wrong with dating someone related to you. The laws of attraction and chemistry will ALWAYS take control.
Timberoo Posts: 2810	Sep 08, 2008 1:37 AM GMT Quote Caslon6000 said Timberoo saidI think anything past first cousins is ok. first cousin once removed? that's all so confusing. If your parents are blood siblings, then I say it's ok.
Caslon7000 Posts: 7952	Sep 08, 2008 1:43 AM GMT Quote Timberoo said Caslon6000 said Timberoo saidI think anything past first cousins is ok. first cousin once removed? that's all so confusing. If your parents are blood siblings, then I say it's ok. I dont think you know what a first cousin once removed is!
Global_Citize... Posts: 946	Sep 08, 2008 3:08 AM GMT Quote Crimthann said Global_Citizen said Crimthann saidwell, I lost my cherry to my Uncle. It was damn hot too. As an uncle of several nephews, that is unthinkable to me. And dare I ask how old you were at the time? 13 There's nothing hot about that. It's sad, abusive and disturbing, not to mention criminal.
Sedative Posts: 5407	Sep 08, 2008 12:13 PM GMT Quote obscenewish said Sedative saidI wonder if Freud could even look at a banana and not think Dick! LOL OMG...That never crossed my mind! Me neither! Um... nice banana. Wanna share? ROFL I would like to hear the reasons on why a lot of you here seem to be really disgusted by incest even in the first cousin-second cousin level, not to mention that this involves two MALES. Pedophilia aside (which is wrong, imo, from the damage it does to a child psychologically), what makes incest wrong for homosexuals? (As for my bestfriend str8hardbody, "I'm Catholic in God's teaching it's wrong.", um... so is homosexuality. DOH!)
Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 08, 2008 12:25 PM GMT Quote We are all kind of related to each other on a general level, but I think it is a lot harder for us to be related to those that are closely related to us anyhow. It is just how we are built. If we really checked into our family backgrounds, I'm sure we would find out that we have dated a lot of people that we were distantly related to. My guess is that if you have never heard of them and they have never been to your family reunion, you should be okay.
HndsmKansan Posts: 3129	Sep 08, 2008 12:32 PM GMT Quote I think "case in point" discussed by Terryf, I think its kind of ridiculous. I agree with AshLeon, I think the guy was just looking to break up. One point I want to make. If this guy was that sensitive about the distant familial tie, I wonder how he would be with his boyfriend (being out front and out?) If they were first cousins, I could see the concern...3rd, 4th or 5th... what the heck?
joarky123 Posts: 44	Sep 09, 2008 8:39 PM GMT Quote MunchingZombie said Auryn saidBecause, Squarejaw, their babies could come out with deformities and/or mental handicaps. Oh wait, we're talking about same-sex couples... never mind. (yes, I was kidding) So, incest is ok as long as you don't have babies. I mean, my parents are brother and sister and their sexual relationship is ok because they use protection. Granted, they are also Catholic and don't believe in contraception and use the rhythm method for protection. There was bound to be a few mistakes. HAHA...dude, i LOVE this guy.....where does he come up with this stuff?!?! (in a strictly platonic way of course.... )
gumbosolo Posts: 105	Sep 15, 2008 4:46 PM GMT Quote Besides the risk of having X-Men babies, I think the taboo on this may be of the same order as not dating a co-worker . . . cause if things get bad, you're still around the person, and it ruins a nice day at work/family reunion. For third cousins, though? Really? And they didn't even know beforehand? The guy was probably a few days from feigning born-again-ness to get out of his relationship. Either that or he'll get over it.
mjime003 Posts: 70	Sep 15, 2008 5:06 PM GMT Quote I think of myself as open minded, but to me, personally, the idea of me and anyone in my immediate and non-immediate family is gross gross gross, just, uuuuggghhh, yuck. If I saw someone else knowledgeably having a relationship with a known family member, I would not be ok with it. That being said, I think the situation in the original post is ok, it's like third or fourth cousins that had no contact with each other. However, when you knew the person growing up as a cousin/uncle/aunt/grandpa/grandma/mom/dad/sibling (...am I missing any?), noooooooooooo.
lilmaninsc Posts: 461	Sep 15, 2008 5:21 PM GMT Quote Global_Citizen said Crimthann said Global_Citizen said Crimthann saidwell, I lost my cherry to my Uncle. It was damn hot too. As an uncle of several nephews, that is unthinkable to me. And dare I ask how old you were at the time? 13 There's nothing hot about that. It's sad, abusive and disturbing, not to mention criminal. I totally agree. and to the topic at hand... NO NO NO you draw the line when you know it's family, blood or not. family is family, not a fuck buddy or someone to have a relationship with. ugh...barf face
nautilie7 Posts: 101	Sep 16, 2008 10:43 AM GMT Quote Hmm I guess I had done this incest things. The first dick I saw which wasn't belong to my father was my cousins. I was 8 years old and he was 17 years old. I didn't know what the meaning of gay. So, I always curious about the big bulging thing on his crotch. One day when he was asleep after playing soccer with his friends, I sneaked to his room and took a peek under his short.. I was so amazed it was big and uncut.. so after played around with it for five minutes I just left it and went back to my room to play with my toy cars.. lol
guitarboi85 Posts: 151	Sep 16, 2008 10:55 AM GMT Quote my cousin and i fooled around when we were younger. i think it was more bois discovering their bodies type of thing. but he's a hot marine now and married lol
GQjock Posts: 3691	Sep 17, 2008 11:45 AM GMT Quote Why do I get the image of three guys pluckin' banjos on some dilapidated porch somewhere?
Aquanerd Posts: 324	Sep 17, 2008 12:15 PM GMT Quote GQjock saidWhy do I get the image of three guys pluckin' banjos on some dilapidated porch somewhere? "Row faster, I hear banjos!" I think that this is the forum that is appropriate to share my deepest darkest family shame. I am the fulcrum of the family tree that makes Bill and Hilary Clinton related.
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Sedative Posts: 5407	Sep 19, 2008 2:09 AM GMT Quote O Susannah don't you cry for me!
Pattison Posts: 1988	Sep 19, 2008 2:36 PM GMT Quote Squarejaw saidIf someone can explain to me why two consenting adults shouldn't date each other even if they're brothers, I'd be much obliged. And lots of peole in Tasmania ask the same thing! All you have to do for a family reunion, is go to the local hospital.

Hidden/Deleted Member	Sep 26, 2008 12:56 AM GMT Quote It aint like yer gonna have children, enjoy yourselves.

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