Fiyero27 saidThe bigger irony is that he is, too.
theantijock saidI'd say Jews have been through as much or worse. But I do agree gays have had to endure some of the most trials of any group in human history.
No group in human history has been tried as we have. No heart so wounded. No heart so strong. No heart so tried and true.
The irony is I'm both.
haha. Now all I need is a black lover and the triad of the tried is complete.
I get your point Fiyero but even going back 1000s of years, from what little I know of all that history--and I could be absolutely wrong in this, I'm guessing at most of it, as probably do historians--it seems to me that oppression against Jewish people was more intermittent. Of course, lives-wise, Egypt and the holocaust probably bumped those stats, but I'm hoping that was only an anomaly every 3500 years or so. And probably they were forced to move around more wereas we were probably just shut in where we were.
Judged based upon consistancy of oppression, even if it was at times and due to circumstances (our ability to hide in place, for instance) subtle, I think you'd be hard pressed to find another group as tried as we. Just since early Judeo/Christianity alone, you've got a few 1000 years of the so-called abomination
--and lets get real here, that's probably regardless of how modern people try to justify some misread of the word. Based upon how ingrained seems homophobia, it seems hard to not summise that the anomaly here probably has been periods of our acceptance within society at large.
There seems indication that we've been treated like shit for a long time (even before the patriarchal religions kicked in)...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Egypt
"Horus, having caught a sample of Seth's semen brought it to his mother Isis. Isis, shocked and appalled, chopped off the her sons' semen-covered hand and threw it in the Nile.