The Shirtless FBI agent

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    Nov 16, 2012 10:46 AM GMT
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9682202/David-Petraeus-shirtless-photo-of-FBI-agent-is-published.html
    Disappointing - somewhere else it had been reported that the pic he sent was just the pic of the mannequin.
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    Nov 16, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
    Yup. He could have kept that picture to himself.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 16, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
    I wonder what that was ...really... all about...

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  • Dominican_Gen...

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    Nov 16, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    So? He has a lean torso and his wife is into the joke. I don't see the big deal.
  • rnch

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    Nov 16, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    As protective as the FBI is of it's public image; this man's career is over.
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    Nov 16, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    The biggest question this raises....

    What happened to that mans nipples?
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    Nov 16, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
    icon_lol.gif ^^^ you have good eyesicon_twisted.gif
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    Nov 16, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
    rnch saidAs protective as the FBI is of it's public image; this man's career is over.


    But he'll make tons of $$$ from the book and the movie rights!!
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    Nov 16, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    So he resembles the dummies... Don't really see the scandal in this. Any one profile on RJ is more scandalous, and far better looking!
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    Nov 16, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
    It was a joke he sent to a bunch of people, not just Kelly. So it loses its scandalicity.
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    Nov 16, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
    johnk01850 saidSo he resembles the dummies... Don't really see the scandal in this. Any one profile on RJ is more scandalous, and far better looking!


    well he had alot to do with cracking the millennium bomber case in los angeles in 2000. But one or two selective press outlets suggested the picture was sent from a cell phone to one of the women involved in the Patreaus scandal. The picture apparently was sent via social media and circulated . Not 1 or 2 individual women.
    They also commented on his "world view" .

    The press sought to chum the waters to discredit him. Much like they do to anyone who is a threat to a liberal politician ( juanita broderick, paula jones (list of about 20 or so )
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    Nov 16, 2012 3:52 PM GMT
    Puppenjunge saidDisappointing - somewhere else it had been reported that the pic he sent was just the pic of the mannequin.


    Why is this disappointing? What makes it wrong for this guy to send a picture of himself without a shirt? What if he were at the beach or should he not be going 'topless' (as some of the media call it...he's a guy!) at the beach either?

    rnch saidAs protective as the FBI is of it's public image; this man's career is over.
    I don't believe this. There's no way his career is over for having emailed a picture of himself that was NOT inappropriate. He has an outstanding track record for what he does and this is not going to change any of that.

    The public is so 2 faced about things like this. Guys have shirtless pics all over the place and he didn't even post this to a public site, he sent it to friends. It's really nobody else's business and should actually sue for having mention of it leaked while the investigation was going on.
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    Nov 16, 2012 4:17 PM GMT
    rnch saidAs protective as the FBI is of it's public image; this man's career is over.


    guess that's why they kept J. Edgar's little flaming secret such a secret.....
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    Nov 16, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
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    rnch saidAs protective as the FBI is of it's public image; this man's career is over.


    guess that's why they kept J. Edgar's little flaming secret such a secret.....




    "jedgar" (as Lily Thomlin called him) had a vast file of blackmail on many/most elected officials.
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    Nov 16, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    The friend of the "shirtless FBI agent" appears to be immersed in more doo doo than initially believed.

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    Businessman: Jill Kelley Asked for $80M, Bragged of Petraeus Connection

    A New York businessman who discussed a multi-billion-dollar Korean business deal with Jill Kelley said the Tampa woman at the center of the Petraeus scandal told him Gen. Petraeus had arranged for her to become an honorary consul for South Korea and promote free trade, and then asked him for $80 million to complete the deal.

    "Ms. Kelley made it clear to me that General Petraeus put her in this position, and that's why she was able to have access to such senior levels [of the Korean government]," said Adam Victor, president and CEO of TransGas Development Systems, "that they were essentially doing a favor for General Petraeus, and that she had access solely because of her relationship with General Petraeus."

    Victor, who met Kelley at the Republican National Convention in Tampa in August, said he was disappointed in Gen. Petraeus for helping Kelley become an honorary consul. "Frankly, I blame Gen. Petraeus for this as a lapse of judgment," he said. "The general should have known better."

    Gen. Petraeus resigned as CIA director last Friday after an FBI investigation turned up evidence of an affair between Petraeus and Paula Broadwell, co-author of the Petraeus biography "All In." The investigation began when Kelley, a Tampa socialite, told an FBI agent she knew about "harassing" emails that turned out to originate from Broadwell.

    According to Victor, he went to Tampa to promote coal gasification and met a friend of Kelley's who suggested that they meet to discuss a possible international deal. "The person who introduced me to her said that she was well known to be a very close friend of Gen. Petraeus," said Victor.

    Victor said that he and Kelley met in "the VIP section" at the convention, where Kelly said that "she was a very good friend of Gen. Petraeus," and that "he arranged for her to get this position of honorary consul for South Korea" to promote free trade. She also allegedly said she had access to senior government officials in Korea.

    Victor said he thought it made sense that Petraeus would want to put a trusted aide in charge of promoting free trade. When Kelley named her fee for brokering the deal, however, Victor balked. The coal gasification plants under discussion were worth $4 billion, said Victor -- and Kelley wanted a two percent cut. "That's an $80 million fee," he said. "And I mean that is problematic . . . No broker gets $80 million. I mean that's two whole orders of magnitude higher than what they would get."

    Victor said he "terminated the relationship" after Kelley asked for $80 million. He decided that while she was not making an inappropriate request on purpose, it showed she was inexperienced and unqualified for the job. He also began to wonder about Petraeus's judgment.

    "It became clear that it did not smell right," he said. "Gen. Petraeus should not have put an inexperienced person in charge of the Free Trade Agreement with such an important ally as South Korea."

    "It's a sad day for the country," concluded Victor. "Gen. Petraeus has served this country well."

    A spokesperson for Jill Kelley did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Retired Army Col. Steve Boylan, a friend and former spokesperson for ex-CIA Director Petraeus, said it was "nonsense" that Petraeus had any part in Kelley's alleged Korean deal. "He knows nothing about it," insisted Boylan. "What other people do he can't control." Another source told ABC News that Petraeus had asked Kelley to stop throwing his name around.
  • monet

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    Nov 16, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    I'm not sure I really want to live in a country where important political figures can't get a little secret pussy on the side without it becoming a giant federal case.

    It's just pussy for God's sake (or penis in Hoover's case). No big deal.
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    Nov 16, 2012 5:09 PM GMT
    I'm still trying to figure out why any of this is "a scandal" or in the news at all. Is there nothing at all going on in the country?
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    Nov 16, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
    Strong brow
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    Nov 16, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
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    Puppenjunge saidDisappointing - somewhere else it had been reported that the pic he sent was just the pic of the mannequin.


    Why is this disappointing? What makes it wrong for this guy to send a picture of himself without a shirt? What if he were at the beach or should he not be going 'topless' (as some of the media call it...he's a guy!) at the beach either?

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    It is "disappointing" in that the story would have been much more interesting if the guy had sent a picture of a mannequin, representing it to be a picture of himself.
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    Nov 16, 2012 7:25 PM GMT
    monet saidI'm not sure I really want to live in a country where important political figures can't get a little secret pussy on the side without it becoming a giant federal case.

    It's just pussy for God's sake (or penis in Hoover's case). No big deal.


    agreed to a point....in hoover's case however, he went out of his way to persecute gays and routinely had them exposed and fired from a variety of governmental and private careers; all the while dressing in his finest drag and bedding his second in command, whom he appointed.

    The fact that he started keeping files on every president (and every political office down the line) that he served under and used them several times to coerce or frighten people to his way of thinking.....that.....scares the shit outta me, but i've never really heard America scream bloody murder over this....probably because no one knows where all the files are located to this day.......so lift the rug and sweep hard..
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
    monet saidI'm not sure I really want to live in a country where important political figures can't get a little secret pussy on the side without it becoming a giant federal case.

    It's just pussy for God's sake (or penis in Hoover's case). No big deal.

    It really is absurd - that a general (former, but CIA head) has to resign because he had an affair. Where were the calls for Gingrich to resign after any of his affairs? Rudi Giuliani survived his affair quite nicely. And as to generals, Eisenhower had his long affair with his driver Kay Summersby in England. Of course Roosevelt should have fired him, and told him, "Sorry, you can't command the D-Day invasion, because we have learned that you lack proper moral character, and our generals must be above suspicion." The US must be the laughing stock of the world at having Petraeus resign over this. Only the moralistic puritanical amercians could care. Not long ago a french president appeared publiclly with his wife and mistress at the same time. The current french president had an affair with the last president's wife.
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:05 PM GMT
    wow, that was a huge waste of time
  • Montague

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    Nov 16, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
    Really? This is news?
  • rnch

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    Nov 16, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
    Perhaps General P ....wanted.....to retire icon_question.gif
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
    The difference is that in his position he put himself in a place where he had potential for blackmail. At the highest level of clearance in the country that sort of behaviour is not acceptable.

    Given his level of clearance, withholding such information as an affair from the government he is effectively lying and at his level in national security he was right to step down.