New POLLS Show McCain on the Move

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 07, 2008 5:57 PM GMT
    Latest Gallup Poll has McCain at 48%, Obama at 45%


    Rasmussen Poll has them dead even


    Zogby Poll has McCain in the lead and up by 5 (46% McCain, 41% Obama)


    More polls to come and all indications are that McCain will be getting a significant bounce from the RNC

    It's gonna be a nail-biter!

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    Sep 07, 2008 7:56 PM GMT
    actually need to look at the electoral college votes over the general polls. By viewing the electoral college Obama is clearly in the lead for winning the whitehouse. Obama has over 300 electoral votes when only 270 are need to win this election cycle.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 07, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidLatest Gallup Poll has McCain at 48%, Obama at 45%


    Rasmussen Poll has them dead even


    Zogby Poll has McCain in the lead and up by 5 (46% McCain, 41% Obama)


    More polls to come and all indications are that McCain will be getting a significant bounce from the RNC

    It's gonna be a nail-biter!



    All the polls I've seen including the CNN poll has Obama ahead. I'm confident that as we move forward, things will become clear. I'm already
    pleased to hear that some "upper level" republicans are asking how the Palin woman could have been added when there are so many other "better candidates". And I'm so DAMN glad Hillary will be speaking and finally making clarification between her views and concerns and that of the Palin
    woman.
  • auryn

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    Sep 07, 2008 8:46 PM GMT
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

    This is the poll to watch.
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    Sep 07, 2008 8:48 PM GMT
    McCain...on the move?....hmmm...now that's a statement in contrast. LOL.

    It's difficult to imagine him being able to move much at all.
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    Sep 07, 2008 8:49 PM GMT
    If that's true, it looks like the fear-mongering is working. Good job Republicans!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 07, 2008 8:50 PM GMT
    You just watch...

    and, Chris, you need to stop reading LAST week's polls icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 07, 2008 9:10 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidYou just watch...

    and, Chris, you need to stop reading LAST week's polls icon_lol.gif


    Last night CNN reported that the size of the bounce from the Republican convention was:

    Zero.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 07, 2008 9:12 PM GMT
    We'll see about that icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 07, 2008 9:14 PM GMT
    Even if McCain did win, he's going to have a mighty nasty time with that coming Democratic juggernaut in Congress come January.

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 07, 2008 9:36 PM GMT
    ImTrying21 saidEven if McCain did win, he's going to have a mighty nasty time with that coming Democratic juggernaut in Congress come January.





    That remains to be seen -- McCain has spent his entire career reaching across the aisle to get things done, and he has even already publicly stated that his cabinet will be composed of the most qualified regardless of their party affiliation. I will agree, however, assuming that the dems hold onto the house and/or senate, or both, that they do make it hard to get anything done -- even when they control it.

  • coolarmydude

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    Sep 07, 2008 9:47 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said, "I will agree, however, assuming that the dems hold onto the house and/or senate, or both, that they do make it hard to get anything done -- even when they control it."


    Well there's SOME truth in what you're saying. The WHOLE truth is that it's hard to get the Republican Agenda done in a Democrat-controlled Congress. Republicans. Always in the spin cycle...
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    Sep 07, 2008 10:07 PM GMT
    Zogby?


    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!


    Aside from cherry picking polls, you also happened to pick a poll from the least accurate polling firms. Zogby couldn't predict his own birthday.

    Here is every national poll conducted in September
    Pollster Dates N/Pop McCain Obama
    Zogby (Internet) 9/5-6/08 2312 LV 50 46
    Rasmussen 9/3-5/08 3000 LV 46 49
    Gallup 9/2-4/08 2779 RV 44 48
    Diageo/Hotline 9/2-4/08 877 LV 40 46
    Democracy C. 9/1-3/08 1000 LV 44 49
    CBS 9/1-3/08 734 RV 42 42
    Economist 9/1-3/08 1000 A 39 42

    But a look at the state polls are far less rosey for McCain. But we have yet to see the convention bump in full swing (though we have seen the Palin bump/fizzle).
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    Sep 07, 2008 10:19 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidCuriousJockAZ said, "I will agree, however, assuming that the dems hold onto the house and/or senate, or both, that they do make it hard to get anything done -- even when they control it."


    Well there's SOME truth in what you're saying. The WHOLE truth is that it's hard to get the Republican Agenda done in a Democrat-controlled Congress. Republicans. Always in the spin cycle...


    You've got to be kidding. 100% with Bush in '08, ~90% with Bush during the last eight years. The notable exceptions are McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy (which McCain now says he now wouldn't vote for if it came up for a vote).

    When asked if he would vote for his own legislation allowing citizenship --

    MCCAIN: No, I would not because we know what the situation is today. People want the borders secured first.


    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0801/31/ltm.01.html

    Edit: I meant to quote CuriosJock. My bad.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 07, 2008 10:30 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidYou just watch...

    and, Chris, you need to stop reading LAST week's polls icon_lol.gif



    I beg your pardon... you need to watch NEXT weeks polls!
  • coolarmydude

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    Sep 11, 2008 6:45 PM GMT
    ruck_us said, "Edit: I meant to quote CuriosJock. My bad."

    No worries. Just fetch me a beer.
  • TexanMan82

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    Sep 11, 2008 6:53 PM GMT
    Don't you Obama supporters feel it's a tad weird that he doesn't really have a handle on the election? Honestly, in my gut it feels (felt?) like he was a shoo in, that there's no way he could lose. I think he is going to have a hard time in bringing the moderates and independents on board. He's got his base in a frenzy, but what about the middle?
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    Sep 11, 2008 6:55 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidLatest Gallup Poll has McCain at 48%, Obama at 45%


    Rasmussen Poll has them dead even


    Zogby Poll has McCain in the lead and up by 5 (46% McCain, 41% Obama)


    More polls to come and all indications are that McCain will be getting a significant bounce from the RNC

    It's gonna be a nail-biter!



    Are these the polls that sample people with land lines and published phone numbers who pick up the phone even if they don't recognize the caller?

    If so, then I guess McCain is winning the crucial battle for the lonely, "shut-in" constituency.

    Wow...what a juggernaut.

    /sarcasm

    If these polls were taken in America in 1982, then maybe I'd consider it an accurate representation.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 11, 2008 6:58 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidDon't you Obama supporters feel it's a tad weird that he doesn't really have a handle on the election? Honestly, in my gut it feels (felt?) like he was a shoo in, that there's no way he could lose. I think he is going to have a hard time in bringing the moderates and independents on board. He's got his base in a frenzy, but what about the middle?


    I think Obama peaked too soon, while McCain may be peaking just at the right time. Time will tell, but it's still anyone's election to win or lose, and any number of things could come into play in the weeks to come including an "October Surprise".
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    Sep 11, 2008 6:59 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    TexanMan82 saidDon't you Obama supporters feel it's a tad weird that he doesn't really have a handle on the election? Honestly, in my gut it feels (felt?) like he was a shoo in, that there's no way he could lose. I think he is going to have a hard time in bringing the moderates and independents on board. He's got his base in a frenzy, but what about the middle?


    I think Obama peaked too soon, while McCain may be peaking just at the right time. Time will tell, but it's still anyone's election to win or lose, and any number of things could come into play in the weeks to come including an "October Surprise".


    *boom*
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    Sep 11, 2008 7:24 PM GMT

    Actually, it was noted by major political analysts that these polls are VERY misleading because they DO NOT consider or take into account any person with a cell phone.

    Polls are taken by calls made to "listed" land line users. Therefore, any person that is "unlisted" is not part of the polling process.

    Back to cell phone users: the largest demographic of cell phone users in this country are the "GEN-X" users by 3:1 !!! And, they are 67%-71% (depending on location) more likely to be democrats.

    Accordingly, GEN-X voters comprise the largest increase of newly registered voters; they are democrats. And, based upon political based website donations are more likely Obama supporters.

    Once again, the media can be misleading. Don't assume anything
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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 11, 2008 7:30 PM GMT
    B787 said

    Once again, the media can be misleading. Don't assume anything
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    Exactly! Let's not forget that going into election day in 2004 virtually all the polls had Kerry winning by a solid margin. Didn't exactly turn out that way, so I don't necessarily read a whole lot into polls, but do find them interesting.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 11, 2008 7:39 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    B787 said

    Once again, the media can be misleading. Don't assume anything
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    Exactly! Let's not forget that going into election day in 2004 virtually all the polls had Kerry winning by a solid margin. Didn't exactly turn out that way, so I don't necessarily read a whole lot into polls, but do find them interesting.



    I don't remember that in the least. I review polls, state by state. What I remember is that all thought it was going to be close and that Ohio would be one of the keys either way.... and concern about voting machines.
    Lets not try and turn the 2004 election into something it wasn't.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 11, 2008 7:47 PM GMT
    Oh, well, maybe they are more accurate than I gave them credit for. I stand corrected. In that case, everyone's invited to my place for the McCain/Palin Victory Party icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Sep 11, 2008 7:48 PM GMT
    The advertising-funded mainstream media, in order to maximize ratings and revenue, will find a way to portray this election as a virtual tie for as long as possible. This is why they cannot be trusted, and why they're irresponsibly manipulating the outcome.