Republicans decide their ideas aren't the problem

  • KissTheSky

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    Nov 17, 2012 12:42 AM GMT
    Commentary from Daily Kos:
    The Wall Street Journal reports that most Republican leaders are concluding that they lost the election not because of the positions they took but rather because of how they sold those positions:
    Two weeks after their presidential election defeat, Republican Party leaders are falling into roughly two camps as they struggle to explain what happened and devise ways to broaden the party's base.
    Some top GOP officials worry their message is wrong for a rapidly diversifying population, and that fundamental shifts in policy may be required. But the more dominant voice, and the one gaining currency within the center of the party, says such drama isn't necessary.

    In their world, President Obama only won because Mitt Romney sucked as a campaigner. If Republicans had just nominated someone who was a better salesman, everything would have been fine for the GOP. As Governor Ultrasound put it:
    "It is critically important we remain true to who we are," Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell said in an interview here at the meeting of the Republican Governors Association. "We have to figure out how to make our principles more attractive to emerging voters. But if we abdicate those, we become a very different entity."
    So apparently they think that if they offer up the same crappy old song with a new singer, everything will be better the next time around. That's pretty much a perfect definition of denial—and it's music to Democratic ears.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324595904578121352510056128.html
  • Webster666

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    Nov 17, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
    "It's the economy, stupid."

    That was the theme Bill Clinton rode to victory on.
    And, it could have been used to great effect by the Republicans, in the 2012 Presidential election.
    I agree that the Republicans nominated a terrible candidate.
    A much better candidate could have won the election for them.
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    Nov 17, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
    Webster666 said"It's the economy, stupid."
    ...and they say they're not single-issue voters. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • tazzari

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    Nov 17, 2012 3:16 AM GMT
    Face it GOP - America didn't want what you are selling. The country is changing, and no one wants to go back to 1955 - we now have women, gays, non-Christians (and Christians who think), Latinos, Blacks...
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 17, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    If republican leaders see absolutely nothing wrong with their ideas and positions, than we might as well kiss the GOP goodbye. These idiot leaders are only hastening the eventual demise of the GOP. IT IS TIME FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO GET OUT OF THE DARK AGES.
  • Lincsbear

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    Nov 17, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
    If so, they`ve got big problems ahead.

    For the forseeable future they`ll find the presidential contest harder and harder to win. They`ll become an embattled minority in the US, retreating to their heartlands in the South and Midwest; a permanent opposition.

    Even a candidate with Obama`s charisma and oratory might not save them.

    Moderate/liberal republicans need to rescue their party from the fundamentalists` clutches; for themselves, and the sake of American democracy.
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    Nov 17, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
    Ssh. Let them keep selling the same ideas that won't win elections and in the next election act surprised when they lose again.

    Webster666 said"It's the economy, stupid."

    That was the theme Bill Clinton rode to victory on.
    And, it could have been used to great effect by the Republicans, in the 2012 Presidential election.
    I agree that the Republicans nominated a terrible candidate.
    A much better candidate could have won the election for them.

    Did you not see the primaries? It was a circus sideshow.
  • rnch

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    Nov 17, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
    Stay the course, GOP/TEAbaggers!

    Don't change a thing.

    Make it easy for Hillary to win in 2016.




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    Nov 17, 2012 11:38 PM GMT
    For the past two weeks - all you hear from the Republican party and their pundits is "how weak their candidate was," or, "they didn't "sell" their message well enough," or similar: CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY HAD WON?????

    It just goes to show you that they were smoke and mirrors for the sake of smoke and mirrors ... a complete sham. Thank goodness the majority of the voting public saw through it.

    Let me say it again: CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY HAD WON????
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    Nov 17, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
    They don't get it, they never will get it and if they ever did get it, they never would admit it
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    Nov 18, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidGood....I want to see the next set of GOP primaries be every bit as entertaining as these last ones. icon_lol.gif

    +1
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    Nov 18, 2012 12:03 AM GMT
    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidThey don't get it, they never will get it and if they ever did get it, they never would admit it

    If they ever did get it, they would be Democrats icon_lol.gif

    In 2016, they will be even more out of sync because Obamacare will be fully implemented and the country wont want to go back.
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    Nov 18, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    There are many beautiful ways to package a turd, but in the end, it's still shit.
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    Nov 18, 2012 12:49 AM GMT
    ....and is this what lead to the multiple "succession request" posts on the White House webpage?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 19, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
    rnch saidStay the course, GOP/TEAbaggers!

    Don't change a thing.

    Make it easy for Hillary to win in 2016.




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    What makes you think Hillary is going to run in 2016icon_question.gif