French protests against gay marriage bill

  • metta

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    Nov 18, 2012 8:06 AM GMT
    French protests against gay marriage bill

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20382699
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    Nov 18, 2012 4:55 PM GMT
    Let them eat cock.
  • Chrislg

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    Nov 18, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
    I'm French and people are protesting all the time for anything over there. I'm sure the law will pass next year. Polls show that the majority of French people is for gay marriage.

    I'm kinda disappointed though. I though people were smarter than that.
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    Nov 18, 2012 5:12 PM GMT
    When I saw the photo, I was like "Wow, legit French people. What is this?"
    They'll get used to it.
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    Nov 18, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
    I thought Europeans were supposed to be so much more relaxed and liberal then us Americans. icon_eek.gif

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    Nov 18, 2012 5:22 PM GMT
    A few weeks ago, protestors did a demonstration in Marseilles, saying that "no, we are not homophobic, we just want to protect the family and the children", but as soon as they saw 2 girls kissing in front of them, they started screaming "you are disgusting!" and stuff. I hate that the big majority of those people invoke family or child protection to disguise their hatred and problems with homosexuality...
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    Nov 18, 2012 5:29 PM GMT
    Isugemi saidA few weeks ago, protestors did a demonstration in Marseilles, saying that "no, we are not homophobic, we just want to protect the family and the children", but as soon as they saw 2 girls kissing in front of them, they started screaming "you are disgusting!" and stuff. I hate that the big majority of those people invoke family or child protection to disguise their hatred and problems with homosexuality...

    Isn't Marseilles like a middle Eastern city anyway?
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    Nov 18, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
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    Isugemi saidA few weeks ago, protestors did a demonstration in Marseilles, saying that "no, we are not homophobic, we just want to protect the family and the children", but as soon as they saw 2 girls kissing in front of them, they started screaming "you are disgusting!" and stuff. I hate that the big majority of those people invoke family or child protection to disguise their hatred and problems with homosexuality...

    Isn't Marseilles like a middle Eastern city anyway?


    Heu nope it's in the South of France. By the way I made a mistake, it's Marseille without a "s" at the end icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 18, 2012 5:37 PM GMT
    Marseille is in France but that is true that there are a lot of people from the Maghreb (which is not the Middle East, even if they share a lot of cultural aspects). I don't think they are the ones protesting though. Protesters are mainly catholics.
  • metta

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    Nov 18, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    Pope Benedict XVI Calls On The French Church To Fight Gay Marriage


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    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=13588&MediaType=1&Category=24#
  • Chrislg

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    Nov 18, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
    Very few people actually listen to the pope in France. Protests were sporadic. I bet if the government tries to change the shape of the baguette, there will be more protesters in the streets.
  • Import

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    Nov 18, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
    So much for the French being progressive and sophisticated. . .

    just ugly..... ugly lot of people indeed. yuck
  • metta

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    Nov 18, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
    Mayor of Reykjavik: Homophobes aren’t scared, they’re just assholes

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/11/18/mayor-of-reykjavik-homophobes-arent-scared-theyre-just-assholes/
  • Chrislg

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    Nov 18, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    So I guess I'm ugly. I'll try to work out more so it will balance the fact that I'm French. Haha
  • metta

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    Nov 18, 2012 6:54 PM GMT
    Import saidSo much for the French being progressive and sophisticated. . .

    just ugly..... ugly lot of people indeed. yuck


    As stated by people living in France, the people against it are in the minority. I'm sure that you are just referring to the protesters and not France as a whole. icon_smile.gif
  • reptile18

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    Nov 18, 2012 6:54 PM GMT
    metta8 saidMayor of Reykjavik: Homophobes aren’t scared, they’re just assholes

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/11/18/mayor-of-reykjavik-homophobes-arent-scared-theyre-just-assholes/


    I like this quote in that article:

    “Homophobia is not a phobia. They are not scared. They are just a bunch of assholes.”

    May I just say how hot the two RJ French guys on this thread are... icon_razz.gif
  • Rowing_Ant

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    Nov 18, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
    Seconded re the two hot French guys.

    France as the "eldest daughter of the Church" this is not surprising. Nor considering the large Moslem population either......

    It just shows that even in "enlightened" Europe there are still homophobes and bigots, and there always will be, alas.

    That said, historically, the French have been good on the issue of gay rights. Sodomy and same-sex acts were legalised in 1792 and that was enshrined in the Code Napoleon of 1806 and the French Penal Code. When France absorbed the Kingdon of Holland in 1810, they over-turned Holland's 1809 Penal Code which criminalised homosexual acts. Napoleon's Arch-Chancellor, who was reponsible for drafting the Code Napoleon, Cambaceres, was gay.

    Patrice MacMahon one of the Presidents of the III Republic admitted to being bisexual; most famously one of the French Ministers of War around 1900 was openly gay.
  • Chrislg

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    Nov 18, 2012 7:25 PM GMT
    Wow! You know more about my own country that I do. I feel ashamed... Lol
  • Rowing_Ant

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    Nov 18, 2012 7:26 PM GMT
    LOL. Im studying French history 1848-1900 at University, specialising in Napoleon III. lol.

    Im a history nerd and a Francophile/phone. icon_eek.gif
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    Nov 18, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
    It's important to note that these protests are almost always sponsored by and organized by The Church, not everyday lay people. AND the language used to promote the anti-gay marriage movement is always inflammatory and threatening ("Defend your right to follow God's will", "Protect the Sanctity of Marriage and Family Values). It's pathetic that you never see The Church protest molestation or hunger or violence or rape. And for as much as they are against gays adopting kids, you don't hear them promoting that all children deserve to be loved and taken care of. Nope... they are just obsessed with queers.
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    Nov 18, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
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    Rowing_Ant saidLOL. Im studying French history 1848-1900 at University, specialising in Napoleon III. lol.

    Im a history nerd and a Francophile/phone. icon_eek.gif

    Thought you might know the answer to this question.
    I visited Château d'Amboise when I was in France, and I understood from a plaque there that a big part of why da Vinci went there to live out his years was because he was gay. Was Francis I gay for da Vinci?


    No, Francis invited Leonardo [not "Da Vinci"!] to France because he wanted to rival the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor and be seen as a patron of art and artists.

    Having said that, a lot of the artists that he invited were gay (their style was largely known as "Mannerism"!). And Leonardo did allegedly die in the king's arms, so who knows?!?

    Back in Rome, Leonardo did not fit in, but that was mainly because he liked to dissect bodies (against Catholic teaching) and was born illegitimate. Not because he was gay. Michelangelo (also gay) never had a problem (there were rumours about the Pope at that time anyway - Julius II). Anyway, Leonardo packed up his Mona Lisa and moved to the court of King Francis (not forgetting to bring along his lover, Salai).

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    Nov 18, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
    Myol saidIt's important to note that these protests are almost always sponsored by and organized by The Church, not everyday lay people. AND the language used to promote the anti-gay marriage movement is always inflammatory and threatening ("Defend your right to follow God's will", "Protect the Sanctity of Marriage and Family Values). It's pathetic that you never see The Church protest molestation or hunger or violence or rape. And for as much as they are against gays adopting kids, you don't hear them promoting that all children deserve to be loved and taken care of. Nope... they are just obsessed with queers.

    I'm just playing devils advocate right now but those things aren't sponsored by the government. The government isn't making molestation (though in some cases, you have to wonder), violence and rape legal. And you do see protests occur when there is a grotesque violation of the law not being prosecuted to the full extent that it should be.

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    Nov 18, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    Chrislg saidSo I guess I'm ugly. I'll try to work out more so it will balance the fact that I'm French. Haha


    You know you're not ugly. Gays can generalize and be dramatic at times. I'd take what they say about French guys with a grain of salt.
  • Chrislg

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    Nov 18, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
    I know I'm not ugly. It was just a joke. I don't think anybody should generalize though. Not all people living in Utah are against same-sex marriage. Most of the people in France are actually for same-sex marriage (65% according to a recent poll).
  • xipuu

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    Nov 18, 2012 10:19 PM GMT
    I mean France is no other than any other Western European country. They are overwhelmingly for gay marriage (around 72% support), but there is a small and very vocal minority that is extremely against it (Catholics).

    It should pass easily though...