Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10?

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    Nov 18, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    As a Rutgers fan, please let this happen. We need to get out of the hellhole known as the Big East. I know reaction has been mixed on what Rutgers brings to the table but haters have to understand that we have only been really been committed to big time college football since around 2000. We are 9-1 right now and on the verge of our first BE championship and trip to the Orange Bowl. RU is also a AAU university, consistently rated in the top 10 APR in college football and has a very squeaky clean image which is in contrast to the recent trouble with Ohio State and especially Penn State

    Big 10 is looking to increase revenue and expand their footprint. Maryland and Rutgers bring in the DC/Balt and NYC markets. RU has had the highest rated games in NYC. I realize that pro football rules in the NYC area and the college market fragmented but NJ does not have its own market so its 8 million residents are part of the NYC market.

    MD board of regents meet tomorrow..apparently some resistence from them due to their longterm ACC ties. But the increased money for a cash starved athletic program would be hard to pass up. Football drives the bus right now so I know people want to think about basketball but it take backseat.

    Keeping my fingers crossed. I know we have alot of Big 10 alums on the board. How do you guys feel about possible expansion?
  • calibro

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    Nov 18, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    big ten is a joke, but less of a joke than the big east
  • hawkeye7

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    Nov 18, 2012 6:18 PM GMT
    Rutgers should have tried to get into the ACC years ago. They still could.
    Maryland should stay put, The huge exit fee aside, it is still better than the big ten.
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    Nov 18, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
    I get the business side of this. Capture those huge east coast markets. But - am I going to be excited to watch Illinois/Rutgers basketball? Nope!
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    Nov 18, 2012 7:35 PM GMT
    how can you say the ACC is better than the Big 10....their tv deal for football is way less than the Big 10. This is about $$$. Football drives the bus not basketball. The Acc for Rutgers would be a slight step up but they have more in common with the large state universities and again the $ is so much better in the Big 10.

    as for the exit fee, supposedly an alum who is the founder of Under Armor may step up to the plate with mucho bucks
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Nov 18, 2012 7:36 PM GMT
    The Big East is a hell hole?? Don't tell the University of Central Florida (UCF) that!!

    UCF is finally going to the "big time" next year in the Big East after spending years in the "low minors" of college football. Currently, the Knights are in Conference USA which gets us the "top" bowl game in Memphis! Yep, the Liberty Bowl. If they finish further down in C-USA, then they are tapped for the Beef O'Brady's Bowl or the Hawaii affair......

    The Big East looks great to them right now.......and UCF is a school on the verge of being in the Top 25 every year in college football.
  • timcity2000

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    Nov 18, 2012 10:28 PM GMT
    jerseywoof said

    as for the exit fee, supposedly an alum who is the founder of Under Armor may step up to the plate with mucho bucks


    the under armour founder is a maryland grad.
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    Nov 18, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
    Remember back when conferences were made be regional affiliations and school atmospheres?
    Maybe the Big-10 could add some European schools and maybe UNAM into the fold as well.
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Nov 19, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    Macaque saidRemember back when conferences were made be regional affiliations and school atmospheres?
    Maybe the Big-10 could add some European schools and maybe UNAM into the fold as well.


    Exactly....Boise State in the Big East next year?? Get real.
  • Whipmagic

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    Nov 19, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
    I'd rather have Notre Dame in the Big-10. But I'm a Wolverine, so I'm a bit biased, this year's embarassment not withstanding.

    Go Blue!
  • jerseyguy

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    Nov 19, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    it's a great move for rutgers and one the school has wanted for a long time. i'm a bit surprised about the b-10 looking to snag maryland. i'll admit i didn't see that one coming.

    the big 10 is having a down year this year in football - not to mention the fact that osu and psu are ineligible - but it's still worlds better than the acc. acc football is bad and getting worse. once maryland leaves, look for uconn to bolt for the acc. cincy and loulsville then may look to join the b-12. that will likely spell the end of the big east.
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    Nov 19, 2012 9:27 PM GMT
    I'm surprised that two public universities like Maryland and Rutgers are Pproving a $50m Exit fee to change conference affiliations in hopes of future payouts...State tax dollars at work? What about putting thenat $50m into education.

    No way the voters in California would ok something like this. don't Maryland and New Jersey voters have a say in this?
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    Nov 19, 2012 10:19 PM GMT
    first of all the RU exit fee is only $10 million not 50 and the Maryland exit fee will probably be negotiated down...plus the Under Armor guy will pay most of it

    I am escatic right now. MD is in, RU to be announced tomorrow. Great stuff
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    Nov 19, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
    That sound u hear is tha ACC saying whew! Pick up Connecticut, Pitt, Syracuse and Notre Dame and lose Maryland? Sounds like a win for the conference.
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    Nov 20, 2012 12:18 AM GMT
    not really....the ACC which raided the BE and started all this nonsense is basically an odd man out in NCAA football. They took in a crap team in Boston College and then inexplicably added Syracuse and Pitt which add absolutely nothing for football. UConn in football adds even less. Yes a great basketball conference but football which drives the bus in expansion and money will be a non entity

    also expect the Big 12 to also raid the ACC for Clemson and FSU which are the only ACC football programs worth anything besides maybe Va Tech.
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    Nov 20, 2012 1:14 AM GMT
    I think u need to ask yourself if you want an institution to be aligned with respected athletic departments like north Carolina, Virginia and Duke or Ohio State and Penn State....ACC Institutions value athletics as auxiliary aspect of their institutions, not the driving financial force the wags the tail of education. There's a reason why there's no ACC Network and it's not because their institutions lack money or a lack of interest. Also a reason why Notre Dame chose that conference over the begging of the Big 10...

    As for raiding the Big East, that was inevitable. Syracuse and Pittsburgh ( and don't forget West Virginia) couldn't survive in a conference in which half of their institutions didn't have football programs. Could just be a case where all institutions are making the right decision for themselves, difference is Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame and Boston College are all private institutions. I'm just amazed that in this time of economic difficulties states are willing to spend an exorbitant amount of money..whether $10m or $50m when in the next sentence they're raising the cost of state education 20-30%. Like I said, there's no way this would fly in Califonia in this economy. Cal and UCLA are not raving the Pac12 for the Big 12...no way the politics of that could play out here.
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    Nov 20, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
    first of all the Pac 10 took Colorado away from the Big 12 and was on the verge of poaching away Texas and a couple others before that fell through a few years ago. As it was the Pac 10s additions of Colorado and Utah havent exactly set the world on fire.

    RU would be making around 12 million maybe in the BE when the new contract is negotiated...now they may make 32 million...so that could be a plus 20 million right there
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    Yeah, it's weird that the big 10 chose these two schools out of all the teams. Maryland and NJ are very much more pro markets. I went to Virginia so it will be interesting to see how/if the ACC reacts to this especially after ND's move to the conference. Maryland was a dud so not much of a loss to be honest. Good luck.
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:03 AM GMT
    Here is a great article on karma coming back to bite the ACC


    http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2012-11-19/maryland-leaves-acc-for-big-ten-north-carolina-duke-pitt-syracuse?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:06 AM GMT
    Myol saidYeah, it's weird that the big 10 chose these two schools out of all the teams. Maryland and NJ are very much more pro markets. I went to Virginia so it will be interesting to see how/if the ACC reacts to this especially after ND's move to the conference. Maryland was a dud so not much of a loss to be honest. Good luck.


    while they are pro markets it expands the footprint...NJ is a large chunk of the NYC market, they dont need to capture NYC per se, NJ is large enough already.

    do not be surprised if 2 more ACC schools bolt for the Big 10...rumors of NC, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech.


    Maryland is a huge loss because the ACC just took a perception hit and this will probably cause the Big 12 to move as well which could take FSU and Clemson away

    the move to take Cuse and Pitt did not sit well with ACC schools who realize that football is the top priority like FSU, Clemson and Miami and the bending over for Notre Dame in for everything but football didnt help either
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:11 AM GMT
    Would disagree with ya more Jerseywoof, but your too damn sexy, so let's just take it to the wrestling mat and work it out!

    Honestly all these conference changes are ridiculous and much ado about nothing...sorta like a football player signing a $100m 7 year contract when only the first year is guaranteed. Wish they'd just relax and let the dust settle for a few more years...
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
    im excited to see maryland joining the big ten. I'm applying there in march to transfer for fall 2013
  • B71115

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    Nov 20, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    UConn would add nothing to the ACC for football, and Jim Calhoun is retiring, so who is to say it's a good basketball addition. The program was nothing before him. It could easily die with his departure. Granted, joining the ACC could help prevent that, but it does FAR more for UConn than for the ACC.
    The Texas A&M and Missouri additions to the SEC were the same. Did far more for the schools than the schools did for the SEC. A&M is a distant, distant second to UT in terms of interest in the state of Texas.
    All that's needed is 12 games to play a football championship team, so I don't understand going to 14 or beyond. Any increase in TV revenue is eaten up because you're dividing by 14 or 16 rather than 12.
    I do think Florida State may now take a more serious look at the Big 12. Maryland and FSU were the only schools to vote against upping the buyout to $50 million. FSU has the same money issues that Maryland had.
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:29 AM GMT
    The only loser in this deal is the ACC. And who really cares about the ACC? Sure, Duke and Virginia are good schools, but this is not about academics. It's about market share and bargaining power.

    The preeminent conferences are now the B1G Ten and SEC.
  • builtnycguy

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    Nov 20, 2012 3:30 AM GMT
    Big fish in small pond or small fish in big pond? Take your choice. Geographically, the ACC makes more sense than Big 10 for Rutgers. Driving from New Brunswick to Minneapolis for a road trip will be difficult for the students. But it's all about TV money anyway. Look for even more game start times to be TBA while the networks dick around with the schedule.