I've now been to Florida and California...So which one is better guys? Miami or Los Angeles?

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    Nov 20, 2012 5:51 AM GMT
    Assuming you have gone to both...I did Los Angeles and for 4 days. Spent most of my life in Tampa Bay/Miami

    My take on Los Angeles versus Miami...it was great, but have to say I felt it was over-rated. I say that because in most major cities west of Louisiana... People always bring up LA this LA that, I'm going to LA, Just moved from LA, I wanna move to LA...lalala" To me, remove mountains and it feels similiar to Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, and Vegas for that matter. And no Vegas is not like Miami in any shape, form or fashion. I never seen a casino until Hard Rock bilt their hotel in Tampa...

    Main thing was the beach, Redondo Beach (okay maybe not the most popping beach, again just based on my visit). Sand was kind of clumpy and painful to walk on. Yet It hadn't rained all week but it felt wet all the way up to the sidewalk. Mussels littered the shoreline. Water very cold and soon as the sun set it was frigid. South Florida sand is airy and fluffy to walk on, the water 30 days ago when I was there was bath-water warm. No mussels on the shoreline.

    People wise, I thought people there were more friendlier than Miami...but not on the roads (both cities have insanely fast drivers). They also seem more patient and laid back than Miami is. But, there didn't really seem like an interest to meet up and hangout as quickly like people (tourists) on South Beach tend to do. You say you're visiting LA and guys are just like, "oh, another guy chasing the dream". Where as in Miami, it's "lets go for drinks, meet me at the beach, lets get fucked up!" Could have been that I was there during the week too...but I don't know. Sparing West Hollywood (cause I didn't go there icon_mad.gif, the area seemed kind of quiet at night to be so jammed pack during the day. Music didn't fill the air, didn't see many people walking the streets.

    So my verdict? Similiar in some ways, but at the moment I wasn't quite captured by LA in the way Miami did 8 years ago. The scenary was just very pretty though, and I didn't run into ANY rude people (again, yet) but I don't see myself really living there....felt it was just too big of a city in terms of commuting. And with that its hard to get things done. I couldn't go to WeHo because I was so tired from driving all day you don't feel like getting back on the road again. I certainly want to go again, but after I visit San Diego and SF.


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    Nov 20, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
    LOL. LA is hardly like Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, or Vegas. Each of those cities are great/bad in their own unique way. Honestly, you can't say you really know a place unless you've lived there for at least 5 years. But I'll tell you this, there's more to LA than just LA. Everything is so spread out here, but there is certainly something for everyone. It's just that people are so impatient and want instant gratification as soon as they step off that plane. So they end up bitter and go back to where ever they came from, with their tail between their legs. Then complain to all their family and friends that LA sucks. icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 20, 2012 7:10 AM GMT
    xrichx saidLOL. LA is hardly like Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, or Vegas. Each of those cities are great/bad in their own unique way. Honestly, you can't say you really know a place unless you've lived there for at least 5 years>


    Yes it does feel similiar. That endless suburban sprawl common in those cities. Remember what country borders all those states, except Nevada? But not just in that way though. Okay, maybe comparing it to Dallas probably not. I didn't see any cowboys in LA. But San Antonio yes. I'll take Vegas back too. Vegas is really it's own place...even I can't compare it to anything.

    I have to disagree with it taking 5 years to know a place. You can visit the whole United States twice over in that time. I can figure a place out within 1 year max....3 months on average. By going out alot, interacting with people often, etc. 5 years is more like the time to get settled in a place and have a steady group of friends.

    Since I left Florida...no city has ever gotten 5 years of my life. Not ready to allow that either. Unless somone is going to settle down with me on the long-term, it ain't happening. I don't want to run into the same guys from 5 years ago everytime I go out.
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:10 PM GMT
    la
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    Nov 20, 2012 3:21 PM GMT
    I was not all the impressed with Miami. The gay section of South Beach and clubs were fun, but nowhere near packed to the brim with hot guys as I always imagined. Everything I hear about LA is it is just that kind of city. Miami was still amazing but I guess I had unreasonable expectations.
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    Nov 20, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    Grew up in the Santa Monica Bay area way way back in the 60s and loved it to the point of pining away everyday for it after i moved. Went back thru on my bike in '99.........you couldn't give me california on a gold stick anymore and LA, to me, is a giant hornets nest....never been to miami..
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    Nov 20, 2012 8:17 PM GMT
    San Diego trumps both
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    Nov 20, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
    ohioguy12 saidSan Diego trumps both

    San Diego is really nice... for a suburb.
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    Nov 20, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
    Macaque said
    ohioguy12 saidSan Diego trumps both

    San Diego is really nice... for a suburb.



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    Nov 20, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    Macaque said
    ohioguy12 saidSan Diego trumps both

    San Diego is really nice... for a suburb.
    San Diego is no damned suburb. It is a rapidly growing, progressive city of over 1 million and a metro area of over 3 million. San Diego is becoming very serious competition for LA.
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    Nov 21, 2012 2:42 AM GMT
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    Macaque said
    ohioguy12 saidSan Diego trumps both

    San Diego is really nice... for a suburb.
    San Diego is no damned suburb. It is a rapidly growing, progressive city of over 1 million and a metro area of over 3 million. San Diego is becoming very serious competition for LA.


    so....what you're sayin' is it is doomed to cluster fuckitis as well then?
  • LJay

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    Nov 21, 2012 2:49 AM GMT
    Not so sure that LA and Miami have a great deal to do with California and Florida respectively. The two states amount to soooo much more than those cities.
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    Nov 21, 2012 2:56 AM GMT
    Houston, Texas anytime!
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    Nov 21, 2012 2:57 AM GMT
    Oy vey, the men in New York are hotter than both!!!!!
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    Nov 21, 2012 4:12 AM GMT
    Men in San Francisco are hotter...and nastier. icon_twisted.gif
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    Nov 21, 2012 4:45 AM GMT
    Agree with Rogue....NY, NY, NY! London a close second...fun times!
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    Nov 21, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    ftwcycle saidAgree with Rogue....NY, NY, NY! London a close second...fun times!

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    Nov 21, 2012 5:03 AM GMT
    Hate Miami....I have in internship off Brickell this winter -_-
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    Nov 21, 2012 5:12 AM GMT
    Keith51 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Macaque said
    ohioguy12 saidSan Diego trumps both

    San Diego is really nice... for a suburb.
    San Diego is no damned suburb. It is a rapidly growing, progressive city of over 1 million and a metro area of over 3 million. San Diego is becoming very serious competition for LA.


    so....what you're sayin' is it is doomed to cluster fuckitis as well then?


    I really hope not...usually don't make it thru an entire day in LA before I'm annoyed by it's clusterfuckness.
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    Nov 21, 2012 5:18 AM GMT
    I assume you mean visiting, not living.

    Redondo Beach is nobody's idea of a good LA beach. If you wanted to compare, you should have gone to Malibu, Santa Monica, or Laguna Beach. The water is still cold, but the beaches are beautiful.

    The seasons in Miami are less temperate than in LA. I would never again visit Miami in the summer, but in the late winter, it's more pleasant than LA (which can get cold and stormy).

    There is a metric fuckton more to do in LA than in Miami. I did love the Miami dance clubs, though (except their air conditioning, that seemed to be geared towards keeping us all frozen into the fourth millennium). But overall, I would get bored with Miami quickly. Not so with LA.

    I agree that people seemed a lot friendlier in Miami than in LA. I particularly disliked the "what can you do for me lately?" attitude in LA. I particularly liked the hot Latino hotties in Miami.

    In the end, I would chose LA over Miami because LA has a lot more variety in nature and scenery to offer. But I could see how someone with different priorities would choose the other way, and be perfectly happy with his/her choice!
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    Nov 21, 2012 5:27 AM GMT
    may11 saidHouston, Texas anytime!


    ...Said no one. Ever.
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    Nov 21, 2012 5:38 AM GMT
    My review of living in south florida area my whole life:

    If you want to live in a metropolitan area that has diversity of restaurants, wide range of industries, nice people, place to raise a family, culture / events / concerts...I highly recommend to pursue other major cities.

    Miami is strictly a tourist destination. After living in South Florida all 19 years of my life, I dreaded the place. The South Floridians live in their own bubble and are not cultured (in my opinion).

    The restaurants are typically cuban inspired with some Italian inspiration. Most of the clubs only serve for the tourists.

    I do not like the people at all. They are obnoxious, pretentious, and impatient (especially Floridian drivers).

    If you want to get a good job in Miami, you better frickin know spanish. Most companies won't hire you if you do not know Spanish since we are considered the Latin American gateway and multiple firms based in Colombia, Venezuela, and a growing number of firms from Argentina are expanding operations to the region. Most of the jobs serve personal clients and are privately owned.

    Public transportation is terrible and unreliable. If you want to live here you will not survive without a car and driving in Miami is very annoying considering the traffic and different surrounding islands and causeways that connect to the ports and downtown. Moreover, there is always constructions on the highways and I-95 always has too much traffic.

    Crime is very notorious in South Florida too. In order to live near the coast you have to have a lot of $$$ and take into consideration the amount of crime nearby. Most of the houses on the inter-coastal start at around 800k (and usually it isn't even worth the price). Apartments on the beach are very expensive as well.

    Oh winter is the only nice time here. After that, the heat and humidity is scorching and you feel like you are walking through a cloud of hot air and we usually get grumpier around that time lol.
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    Nov 21, 2012 5:42 AM GMT
    LA = Venice Laguna Hollywood Beverly Hills Malibu Santa Monica Silverlake Pacific Palisades Catalina Island

    Miami= Miami?? LOL I dunno, never been there, but, if you can't find something you like in LA, you're either blinded, lazy, or prejudice.
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    Nov 21, 2012 6:02 AM GMT
    sonicpower19 saidMy review of living in south florida area my whole life: ...(over-generalized rant on South Florida)...

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    Shit. I lived in Opa Locka and Lauderhill most of the first 40 years of my life and even I haven't dissed South Florida so poorly. (Even though I do agree with some of Sonic's points.)

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    Nov 21, 2012 6:04 AM GMT
    GAMRican said
    sonicpower19 saidMy review of living in south florida area my whole life: ...(over-generalized rant on South Florida)...

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    bs13690-83559-albums-animated-gifs-pic44

    Shit. I lived in Opa Locka and Lauderhill most of the first 40 years of my life and even I haven't dissed South Florida so poorly. (Even though I do agree with some of Sonic's points.)

    MFW+I+start+a+flame+war_27890a_4202504.g


    lol idk why I don't like living down here. I want seasons and I hate feeling like I live in a bubble.