Nov 20, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
so, has anyone found anything as good as Jack3d? Is the Jack3d micro as good as the old stuff? Or are they just trying to fob off some limp dick version of the previous love of my life?
AussieBody saidIt's fine if it's not for you, and of course people do great without it. Well done to you.
Fortunately or unfortunately, people are not the same. Each person has individual physical needs and limitations, and supplements can sometimes fill the gap where deficiencies lie.
I'm not arguing for you to take them, but I do see their value in the fitness industry- yes there are certainly some issues associated with it, and plenty of benefits also. The great thing is it is constantly evolving and with folks such as BSN I think there will be a great future for supplements.
DMAA is now off the market until there is a lot more research done, so you can chill on that front.
As I said for myself it's an extra boost- whilst I would dearly love regular and proper sleeps it is not possible with my work and lifestyle. It is nice to know there are products that I can take when I am absolutely wrecked of an evening that help me push through the fatigue and get a solid workout done.
What I am advocating is the common sense approach to some supplements used in accordance with both directions and a balanced exercise plan. So far the only instances of trouble I see is when people abuse them greatly.
What I am not doing is forcing you to change your lifestyle, so be happy, exercise hard and stay vego!
bluey2223 saidI don't use anything and am vegetarian and can get results naturally with food, kicking my butt within natural limits, and sleeping. Taking drugs (oh it's over the counter and has magic ingredients) is not the way to do it. It's a stimulant. So is caffeine, and so is methamphetamine (crystal meth). DMAA is somewhere in between in strength. Why not just go take crystal meth and get amazing results? Why not just go take adderall? Where do you draw the line? Why is this any different? Caffeine is a weak stimulant compared to this.
bluey2223 said So is caffeine, and so is methamphetamine (crystal meth). DMAA is somewhere in between in strength. Why not just go take crystal meth and get amazing results?
tiger13 saidI've switched to just a basic 200mg caffeine supplement pre-workout, quite satisfied with that!