How the entitlement society makes America weaker

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    Nov 22, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    By Bill O'Reilly

    I am flashing back to my school teaching days. Last night I told you the committed left is furious, furious that people like me are telling Americans the truth, that the USA is becoming an entitlement society and that helped President Obama win re-election. If you missed my "Talking Points" from last night, you can access it on the Fox News Web site.

    Now, why should you care about that? Well, one big reason, the entitlement culture weakens the country. First the facts, a little more than 20 years ago in 1991 the federal government spent nine percent of the budget on means tested entitlements; things like food stamps, housing and welfare.

    Now the number is 16 percent, almost double. In '91, individuals in 41 million American households were receiving some kind of entitlement outside of Medicare and Social Security. Now the number is an astounding 107 million Americans, an increase of 161 percent. Can you believe it? Even though the population has increased just 24 percent; 20 years ago, 23 million people received food stamps. Now 45 million people do... a record. In '92, about three and a half million Americans were receiving federal disability payments. This month, nearly nine million Americans are getting federal payments.

    So you can see, anybody can see that the entitlement society is exploding in American. There is no question about it. Yet liberals will deny its happening or say it's all because of the bad economy which is flat-out false.

    In 1992 the black unemployment rate was 14.3 percent. In 2012, this year, the black unemployment rate is 14.3 percent, exactly the same. In Hispanic precinct, the situation is similar.

    So this is about a dramatic change that is overwhelming the United States of America. Not economic malaise. When you have more than 100 million Americans living in a home receiving stuff from the government... again, outside of Medicare and Social Security, we're not counting that -- then you have a large dependence on the federal government.

    And what does that do? Well, it saps motivation. Why bust your tail when the feds will give you enough to get by?

    America became great because of individual self reliance, hard working people took chances, suffered, created things that helped the country. Every day Americans empowered this nation, not the federal and state governments. They're in place to protect us and to see that social order is kept, not to provide cradle to grave security. The founding fathers did not want that.

    The Democratic Party wants a western European model. They want voters dependent on the government. The result, $16 trillion in debt, an awful economy and a growing population that lacks ambition. This is a road to disaster.

    Perhaps President Obama will change. Surely he has to know that if he and his party continue to build up a massive nanny state, America will eventually collapse economically. And that's the truth.

    And that's "The Memo."

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    Nov 22, 2012 1:50 AM GMT
    Is Bill O'Reilly seriously trying to compare the effects of the recession in 1992 to the one in 2008? Bush II's recession was the worst since The Great Depression, and much worse than Bush I's recession, so more people have asked for government assistance. They can't be compared...unless you want to say they both occurred on a Bush's watch? icon_smile.gif As the economy improves under Obama, we will see spending on this type of government assistance go down.

    And didn't the Great Depression also happen on a Republican president's watch? Maybe the takeaway here should be to stop electing Republican presidents. LOL.
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    Nov 22, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    sfbayguy saidIs Bill O'Reilly seriously trying to compare the effects of the recession in 1992 to the one in 2008? Bush II's recession was the worst since The Great Depression, and much worse than Bush I's recession, so more people have asked for government assistance. They can't be compared...unless you want to say they both occurred on a Bush's watch? icon_smile.gif As the economy improves under Obama, we will see spending on this type of government assistance go down.

    And didn't the Great Depression also happen on a Republican president's watch? Maybe the takeaway here should be to stop electing Republican presidents. LOL.


    Bush's economic manipulative interference/interventionalist policies were inherently leftwing policies; the policies that caused our housing crisis. Just because he was a "Republican" doesn't change that fact.

    Obama would love nothing more than to implement those same lowered lending standards again if he could.
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    Nov 22, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    "Obama would love nothing more than to implement those same lowered lending standards again if he could."

    What do you base that statement on?

    One could argue that President Bush supported the low lending standards because he didn't realize the long term consequences.

    Now that the devastation of those lending practices have been realized, a repeat of the Bush Era practices would be a willful act of economic sabotage.

    Are you making such an accusation?
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    Nov 22, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    sfbayguy saidIs Bill O'Reilly seriously trying to compare the effects of the recession in 1992 to the one in 2008? Bush II's recession was the worst since The Great Depression, and much worse than Bush I's recession, so more people have asked for government assistance. They can't be compared...unless you want to say they both occurred on a Bush's watch? icon_smile.gifAs the economy improves under Obama, we will see spending on this type of government assistance go down.

    And didn't the Great Depression also happen on a Republican president's watch? Maybe the takeaway here should be to stop electing Republican presidents. LOL.


    We hope it improves! Look how far we've moved away from Kennedy's inaugural address in 1961, "ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."

    Four years of Carter, eight of Reagan, four of Bush, eight of Clinton, eight of George W, and now eight of Obama. We will continue to elect both Republicans and Democrats, and when we stop doing that, we're no longer the America we once were.
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    Nov 22, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    Is Fox News still on the air? One would think that after the recent election those with such racist and idiotic opinions would move back to the rocks from which they crawled, like so many of the under inflated RJ members who spouted such promises as a Romney win did when their helium dreams crashed and burned on election day. Whatever happened to all those puppeteers?
    Bill O'Reilly should go back to sexually harassing ugly women and offering up bullshit opinions to under educated obese people and leave Americans alone.
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    Nov 22, 2012 4:35 PM GMT


    Hear that slurping sucking sound Draper? That's corporations nursing at their entitlements to continue to move blue and now white collar jobs offshore without penalty from governments elected by people to protect their county's economic well being and citizenry's jobs.

    So now governments are being told by corporations to lower corp taxes in order to create jobs. We did that up here. Guess what? The jobs continue to migrate offshore and the companies are pocketing the cashola from corp tax cuts of over 50%.
    Our unemployment rate is just about the same as yours.

    Oh here's a bright side; minimum wage retail jobs are available. A lifetime of serfitude.

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    Nov 22, 2012 4:42 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidIs Fox News still on the air? One would think that after the recent election those with such racist and idiotic opinions would move back to the rocks from which they crawled, like so many of the under inflated RJ members who spouted such promises as a Romney win did when their helium dreams crashed and burned on election day. Whatever happened to all those puppeteers?
    Bill O'Reilly should go back to sexually harassing ugly women and offering up bullshit opinions to under educated obese people and leave Americans alone.


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    Nov 22, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
    Here's even more fun for you; over 28% of the people on entitlements in your country are working, which is about 30 million employees using your 107 million figure.

    Ah yes, lower them wages to compete with offshored jobs.



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    Nov 22, 2012 11:24 PM GMT
    The reason that the portion of the Federal budget going to pay for Welfare and Food Stamps has gone from 9% to 16%, since 1991, is that the Ronald Reagan administration and the George W. Bush Great Depression have pushed MILLIONS of Americans out of the middle class, and into poverty.

    Those Republican administrations are responsible for the economic collapse of our country. They eliminated the regulations that would have prevented it. They caused the housing bubble by allowing banks to give home loans to people who the banks knew could never make the payments.

    People who never dreamed that they would ever be in a position where they couldn't find a job, couldn't afford a place to live, couldn't afford to feed themselves or their family, have found themselves with no place to turn but to the Federal government.

    Those Republican administrations are responsible for creating a society where millions of people cannot help themselves. And, it is the Federal government's responsibility to provide that help.
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    Nov 24, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
    When you have corporate policies, like Wal-Mart, in regards to employee pay and benefits, we wouldn't have so much government entitlements. If you want to fix the problem, point the focus onto corporations. This is where the TEA Party fails.

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    Dec 01, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    O'Reilly isn't politically correctly so I can see why some of you freak out over him and Fox News.

    It's sad what's happened to this great nation.

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    Dec 01, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
    Yeah right. Giving all these tax cuts to the wealthiest 1% really helped the US economy come out of a deep recession. This O'Reilly dude is full of shit up to his eyeballs. icon_mad.gif
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    Dec 02, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    Hi there!:

    This is an interesting exchange. I thought that I would like to share my own ideas on this subject.

    I find it remarkable that the term "entitlement mentality" is being applied to those that are economically and socially disadvantaged, who often are the ones that rely on safety nets such as welfare, SSI and/or Medicaid benefits. I work for a non-profit organization that assists the poor and the program I work for helps people living with HIV/AIDS. I hear stories from clients who are on welfare receiving only $20 to $40 a month for personal expenses. These clients stress that they cannot survive economically on that alone and many have expressed interest in working however due to their physical/mental disabilities they are unable to work. In the case of those receiving SSI benefits, they fear losing their benefits if they work certain number of hours a week. Some of these individuals however have blessed us with their volunteerism which further proves their willingness to give back to their community in some fashion. I have also witnessed the enormous happiness that some of these clients have felt when they have finally found employment and/or returned to school to get a degree when their health has allowed them to do either. In some cases, some of these clients have returned to either work or school even when they are still in ill health. I would definitely not describe these situations as "handouts" or "feelings of entitlement". Using these labels for individuals who struggle to survive and most of whom want to be productive members of society is paternalistic, insulting, and perhaps even racist since a significant number of people receiving these benefits are people of color.

    In contrast, we can look elsewhere to see where the true "entitlement mentality" is expressed in flying colors. Last 11/12/12, PBS aired a documentary under its series Independent Lens titled "Money, Power and the American Dream." It focused on some of the U.S.' richest men who happen to live in a NYC's Park Avenue apartment building. In this show a viewer can appreciate true examples of "entitlement mentality"; you can see a concealed security guard's account of the arrogant behavior from these wealthy tenants who would fire anyone for any minor transgression to their whims. These are often the same people whose corporations either get government subsidies (like the case of large agri-businesses) or bailouts in times of crisis (such as multiple financial institutions). Remember, all that money comes from OUR taxes! And for everyone's information, this is called "corporate welfare" a term that we should be using more often to emphasize that there is another segment of our society receiving government assistance. I have yet not heard anyone using the phrases "entitlement mentality" or "promoting dependency" be applied to any of these extremely wealthy individuals who often behave in a spoiled, egotistical and narcissistic manner.

    We live in society that unfortunately still values people in terms of their "financial success". Something that the current economic crisis should be reminding us is that we must find alternative ways to define ourselves as human beings. It is time to take a more serious look at economic paradigms that emphasize more cooperation, and more community and/or worker-owned modes of production to help stimulate more democratic and humane ways of relating to each other.

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    Dec 02, 2012 5:06 PM GMT
    RubRod is exactly right. We give billions to tax cuts to the wealthiest in hopes that they will "give back" or trickle down to the poorer people, a concept that has never worked, but no matter how many times this fails, the elected oafs continue to scream that this is the only way to keep the economy going.
    Meanwhile the people who are desperate and truly in need, they are often the first who see programs cut, because they can not afford gifts to senators and bribes.
    I am all for people making money, duh, but seriously, at some point we are all in this together and to see someone barely surviving while the truly entitled are driven around their mansions in SUV's is a true sign that the end must be near. How long can the lower and middle class face this sort of abuse before you get a real revolution?
    Meanwhile you have a drunken and bloated speaker of the house dismiss any attempt at negotiations without any sort of concept of what may happen when we skip off a fiscal cliff. Insanity rules and republicans skip around DC pretending that somehow they won the last election and have a false confidence that no one is onto their games.