Leg still sore after 8 weeks?

  • mindblank

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    Nov 25, 2012 12:39 PM GMT
    Hi guys, I wonder if anyone with an ounce more medical understanding than me could suggest what the problem is here before I think about seeking advice (which may not be merited).

    In June I started squatting very frequently in the gym, and going heavier and heavier. Yes I would sometimes go too heavy and realise my form was bad, reduce the weight and catch good form again.

    I would do usually 3 sets, and I like to do high reps especially since I'm not a master at this. So I would do plenty squats: on average, 3 sets of 12-15reps, on 3 days per week. Sometimes reduced this to 2 days per week.

    Problem started 8-9 weeks ago. In bed, I would start noticing a pain deep in my right hamstring. Squats became not possible anymore. I tried and could not do it properly - made the pain worse. I stopped all squatting and leg training 7-8 weeks ago. But even still, I am afraid to do any training with my legs because I still sometimes feel the pain - but I feel it less frequently. I eat and sleep very healthily and have been taking it very easy with my legs doing no leg training since the "injury".

    Question: What happened to my leg? Why has it still not fully healed after 2 months - I still can't squat? Could it be that it's not a muscle pain but I may have damaged the bone and as such would take a lot longer to heal? Is this worth seeking help with, or will it heal up on its own?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!
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    Nov 25, 2012 12:52 PM GMT
    You likely got a small muscular tear in your leg muscles.
    Muscular tears takes a long time to heal, and once healed, you likely have cicatrices tissue, less flexible, that can lead to tearing again.

    You need to wait until there is no more pain, then work your legs again, but with low intensity, and stretch gently every time, before and after workout.

    8 week is nothing unusual. Tears heals between 3 weeks and six month, depending how large they are.
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    Nov 25, 2012 12:58 PM GMT
    i got one 4 years ago
    and it still hurts when i stretch it , and i feel that if i do any excessive momvement i will tear the hell out of it
    i don't know what to do
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    Nov 25, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
    MorGuy saidi got one 4 years ago
    and it still hurts when i stretch it , and i feel that if i do any excessive momvement i will tear the hell out of it
    i don't know what to do


    You need to work on it. once healed, the scare is made of inelastic collagen tissue.

    If you just do nothing, it will stay like that, and limit what you can do because any important stretch will make the muscle tear again just above/bellow the scare.

    But if you work the muscle at low intensity, and do very frequent GENTLE stretch on it, you will eventually, gradually, break the collagen fibers one by one, and get back some flexibility and the ability to use the muscle full strength.

    Without reab, with just rest, there is no evolution.
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    Nov 25, 2012 1:14 PM GMT
    minox said
    MorGuy saidi got one 4 years ago
    and it still hurts when i stretch it , and i feel that if i do any excessive momvement i will tear the hell out of it
    i don't know what to do


    You need to work on it. once healed, the scare is made of inelastic collagen tissue.

    If you just do nothing, it will stay like that, and limit what you can do because any important stretch will make the muscle tear again just above/bellow the scare.

    But if you work the muscle at low intensity, and do very frequent GENTLE stretch on it, you will eventually, gradually, break the collagen fibers one by one, and get back some flexibility and the ability to use the muscle full strength.

    Without reab, with just rest, there is no evolution.


    thanks man ! icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 25, 2012 1:41 PM GMT
    I agree with what Minox said, but I disagree with the way I'd go about treating it. I'm not a doctor, but if I had these symptoms, the first thing I would do would be RFST (Resistance Flexibility and Strength Training). Conventional stretching does little or no good for scar tissue or fascia buildup. The tensile strength of the fascia is just too great for that to really work well. I would try and find a personal trainer or PT in your area that is knowledgable about it, as it's not always possible to do all the stretches alone. In fact, most of them require at least one other peron besides yourself, and depending upon your strength level, you may need several people. But the results are immediate. If you can't find anyone in your area, just Google "RFST" and you'll find a lot of information about it, as well as some good instructional videos.
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    Nov 25, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
    You can also look up a certified Active Release Therapist in your area. They specialize in sports injuries and scar tissue.
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    Nov 30, 2012 7:40 AM GMT
    Unless you had bleeding, you had what's called a grade 1 hamstring pull. You should feel free to research this on your own using your favorite search engine.

    They can be very annoying.

    You really don't need a massage therapist, nor a chiropractor, but, a good physical therapist might be able to help you along.

    Often, these hamstring pulls occur because your quads are too tight, and you hyperextend your hamstring, especially if you're in bad form.

    If you feel a nodule / adhesion in your leg, you can go buy yourself a foam roll and break it up all on your own.

    Any good PT or even an ortho doc will tell you the best course of action is activity to avoid the development of adhesions, and to let the scar tissue lay down in a more usable way. Note, the up side...scar tissue is stronger than muscle, so, in the end game, you'll likely not be that bad off.

    Resuming activity sooner, rather than later, is important in your rehab.

    These sorts of injuries generally heal completely in about 12 weeks.

    If you'd like to confirm what I've said, go visit a DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy).

    You need to start rehabbing it.

    To fix the cause, make sure you are strength balanced and stretch post workout. You should be able to sit flat on your legs (that is..with your legs under your ass).

    There is no surgical intervention on these, unless it's a grade 3 tear, and you have lost all mobility. Hamstring tears are very rarely repaired, even in pro athletes.

    You'll likely notice this throwing your gate out, too. Your body will adapt.

    You can do assisted stretching, and it will help you along, but, mostly, you need to work on the agonist / antagonist muscles, and flexibility.

    You MUST rehab, (work the muscle progressively under load) and stretch in order to get to where you need to be, which will be better than before and prevent future re-injury.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulled_hamstring

    If you haven't seen a ortho doctor, or a PT, you really should. They'll perform tests to make sure you didn't blow out a knee, etc.
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    Nov 30, 2012 7:49 AM GMT
    MorGuy saidi got one 4 years ago
    and it still hurts when i stretch it , and i feel that if i do any excessive momvement i will tear the hell out of it
    i don't know what to do


    You might consider some deep tissue massage, but, be warned...it's gonna hurt...a bunch...but it'll break stuff up.
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    Nov 30, 2012 6:48 PM GMT
    If it's a deep pain, it could be coming from elsewhere. A lot of the time, my clients who say they suffer from what they call deep hamstring pain will feel immediately relief after I work their piriformis and stretch it out. It could also be that you tweaked something in your lower back if you were doing heavy barbell squats.

    Honestly, I'd go get checked out and not rely on realjock speculation to diagnose your problem.
  • mindblank

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    Dec 16, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
    Thank you all for your input. It's still the same, causing pain the odd time, and not able to squat still. Anyway thanks. I have a better idea of what to expect and what it is now.