France set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

  • metta

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    Nov 26, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
    France set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html
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    Nov 26, 2012 6:41 PM GMT
    "The head of the French Catholic Church Cardinal Philippe Barbarin warned followers last week that gay marriage could lead to legalised incest and polygamy in society.

    He told the Christian's RFC radio station: "Gay marriage would herald a complete breakdown in society."

    He needs to go see the movie "Lincoln."
  • FRE0

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    Nov 26, 2012 8:57 PM GMT
    So what will they say, "male parent" and "female parent"? That seems a bit silly.
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:01 PM GMT
    Caslon22000 said"The head of the French Catholic Church Cardinal Philippe Barbarin warned followers last week that gay marriage could lead to legalised incest and polygamy in society.

    He told the Christian's RFC radio station: "Gay marriage would herald a complete breakdown in society."

    He needs to go see the movie "Lincoln."


    That's the same church that condemned and imprisoned Galileo for asserting that the earth revolves around the sun. So far as I am concerned, the Roman Church has no credibility.
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:07 PM GMT
    metta8 saidFrance set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html


    Using the word "Banning" is so dramatic. So French. So drama-queenish.
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
    BuddyinNYC said
    metta8 saidFrance set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html


    Using the word "Banning" is so dramatic. So French. So drama-queenish.


    Those kind of headlines are pretty typical for The Daily Telegraph's website.
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:16 PM GMT
    BuddyinNYC said
    metta8 saidFrance set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html


    Using the word "Banning" is so dramatic. So French. So drama-queenish.


    Hello, this article is not a french article...We don't even speak about it in the news in France. It's just some paper/administration change.
    So who is being drama-queenish now?
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
    Isugemi said
    BuddyinNYC said
    metta8 saidFrance set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html


    Using the word "Banning" is so dramatic. So French. So drama-queenish.


    Hello, this article is not a french article...We don't even speak about it in the news in France. It's just some paper/administration change.
    So who is being drama-queenish now?


    Vous.
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
    BuddyinNYC said
    Isugemi said
    BuddyinNYC said
    metta8 saidFrance set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html


    Using the word "Banning" is so dramatic. So French. So drama-queenish.


    Hello, this article is not a french article...We don't even speak about it in the news in France. It's just some paper/administration change.
    So who is being drama-queenish now?


    Vous.


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  • metta

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    Nov 26, 2012 10:19 PM GMT
    FRE0 saidSo what will they say, "male parent" and "female parent"? That seems a bit silly.


    I would guess: parent
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    Nov 26, 2012 10:24 PM GMT
    I had been reading about this before a few months ago and I remember people not thinking it would pass. Well I think this is a good thing despite being a little drastic.

    What's funny though is the amount of people lacking literacy skills and assuming this would remove the words 'mother' and 'father' from the language PERIOD. Lol however these same people probably had no problem with what Mitt Romney did to the same sex parents is Mass.

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    Nov 26, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    lol, funny on two counts: Gays are not rewriting gov't documents - straights are.

    ...and it only pertains to government documents dealing with parental issues.

    Parent one - male
    parent two- female

    or both female or both male.

    The articles say to be presented on Oct31st...it's November 26 and so....what happened?
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    Nov 28, 2012 3:46 AM GMT
    BuddyinNYC said
    metta8 saidFrance set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html


    Using the word "Banning" is so dramatic. So French. So drama-queenish.


    It might bloody be , but at the least they are doing something about gay marriage and adoption , and for that reason , mate , " je leur tire mon chapeau" !!
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    Nov 28, 2012 3:51 PM GMT
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    metta8 saidFrance set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html


    Using the word "Banning" is so dramatic. So French. So drama-queenish.


    It might bloody be , but at the least they are doing something about gay marriage and adoption , and for that reason , mate , " je leur tire mon chapeau" !!


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  • alphatop

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    Nov 28, 2012 3:55 PM GMT
    WTF? Political correctness has gone wrong! I vote for mother and father instead of gender neutral parent. Jesus F. Christicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 28, 2012 4:02 PM GMT
    Supernova_ saidWTF? Political correctness has gone wrong! I vote for mother and father instead of gender neutral parent. Jesus F. Christicon_rolleyes.gif


    What if it's two men? Or two women? icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 28, 2012 4:16 PM GMT
    What's wrong with "circle the sex, as applicable" ?

    M | F Parent 1
    M | F Parent 2

    But then confuse the whole system if M=mom/male or F=father/female - LOL
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    Nov 28, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    Caslon22000 said"The head of the French Catholic Church Cardinal Philippe Barbarin warned followers last week that gay marriage could lead to legalised incest and polygamy in society.

    He told the Christian's RFC radio station: "Gay marriage would herald a complete breakdown in society."

    He needs to go see the movie "Lincoln."


    Since incest is culturally universal taboo, I wouldn't worry about that. As for polygamy, be it polyandry or polygyny, that it something very common outside the western world, and something that may be progressed towards. I don't agree with it personally, but most of the world does, so it may happen.
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    Nov 28, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
    TerraFirma saidWhat's wrong with "circle the sex, as applicable" ?

    M | F Parent 1
    M | F Parent 2

    But then confuse the whole system if M=mom/male or F=father/female - LOL


    haha, well it's France, so it would be F for female and H for male, or M for Mother and P for father. icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 29, 2012 3:05 PM GMT
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    Supernova_ saidWTF? Political correctness has gone wrong! I vote for mother and father instead of gender neutral parent. Jesus F. Christicon_rolleyes.gif


    What if it's two men? Or two women? icon_wink.gif


    Than dad 1 and dad 2. Or mom A and mom B. But not parent 1 and parent 2.icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 29, 2012 3:24 PM GMT
    Hyped? Perhaps. But it's a function of international press I think.

    The bottom line is that basically no one has any idea what is actually going on in other countries because the locals will swallow foreign news uncritically. Some of the most bizarre things I've heard from people overseas about American domestic politics were the product of them have been told something from American news and them just believing it.

    For some reason people are (rightly) very critical of their own news sources and tend to think about broader implications, but believe anything a foreign newspaper says. In the US, we know not to just believe whatever we've heard on FOX or MSNBC because we are aware of partisan agendas. That awareness evaporates for foreign press and so people in Portugal think the KKK has overtaken the country because they read a hyperventilating article by E. J. Dionne in the New York Times.
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    Nov 29, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    Larkin saidHyped? Perhaps. But it's a function of international press I think.

    The bottom line is that basically no one has any idea what is actually going on in other countries because the locals will swallow foreign news uncritically. Some of the most bizarre things I've heard from people overseas about American domestic politics were the product of them have been told something from American news and them just believing it.

    For some reason people are (rightly) very critical of their own news sources and tend to think about broader implications, but believe anything a foreign newspaper says. In the US, we know not to just believe whatever we've heard on FOX or MSNBC because we are aware of partisan agendas. That awareness evaporates for foreign press and so people in Portugal think the KKK has overtaken the country because they read a hyperventilating article by E. J. Dionne in the New York Times.


    That is very true. We like to dramatize everything. I remember also when there were students protestations in Paris a few years ago. Some riots occured and on American TV, they would say "France is on fire" or "France in civil war' (and incidentally placing Paris in Spain on their maps).
    Lately the French medias are talking about a few murders linked to mafia in Corsica, and they are already comparing Corsica to Napoli or Mexico, but they forget to mention that Corsica is like 10 times safer than Paris.
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    Nov 29, 2012 4:05 PM GMT
    Supernova_ said
    meninlove said
    Supernova_ saidWTF? Political correctness has gone wrong! I vote for mother and father instead of gender neutral parent. Jesus F. Christicon_rolleyes.gif


    What if it's two men? Or two women? icon_wink.gif


    Than dad 1 and dad 2. Or mom A and mom B. But not parent 1 and parent 2.icon_wink.gif


    Perfectly rational, double the number of fields to four -- two of which will almost always be blank as opposed to just two fields that will suit most situations and all just because you feel uncomfortable with gender neutral language.
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    Nov 29, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    What's the poor performance artist with the wings going to do now? icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 29, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
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    Here he goes... the anti-gay adoption performance artist:



    I'd say there's enough room on the wing for "Parent Deux" to fit.