Bambi Ate Thumper: Why herbivores sometimes eat meat.

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    Nov 28, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/11/deer_eat_meat_herbivores_and_carnivores_are_not_so_clearly_divided.html
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    Nov 28, 2012 1:52 AM GMT
    that author is kinda an idiot by the last few paragraphs
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    Nov 28, 2012 5:21 AM GMT
    calibro saidthat author is kinda an idiot by the last few paragraphs


    is it that time of the month for you? This is the second post from you today that made no contribution to the forum, unless if you count a bitchy comment as such.

    Re: the article - quite interesting. I've never seen a herbivore eat meat before but have heard of stories. Can't blame them though... veggies next to meat have like zero flavour
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    Nov 28, 2012 5:29 AM GMT
    stevee90 said
    calibro saidthat author is kinda an idiot by the last few paragraphs


    is it that time of the month for you?


    I agree with him. An otherwise solid article muddled by a college vegetarian metaphor.

    Sorry, it's MY time of the month.
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    Nov 28, 2012 5:57 AM GMT
    Well then..I'm never going to pet a deer again....icon_eek.gif
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    Nov 28, 2012 6:35 AM GMT
    I've heard from colleagues of deer eating live birds out of nets, interfering with their bird surveys. My theory: a combination of opportunism and maintenance of microbial intestinal symbionts required for cellulose digestion (deer may have a four-chambered stomach, but only bacteria, fungi, and protazoans produce the enzyme cellulase, which breaks down cellulose). I'm sure we've all seen animals eat faeces (coprophagia). When you eat an animal whole, you're also eating some of its bacterial brew. Bon appetit
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    Nov 28, 2012 6:54 AM GMT

    I'd like to see the links to scientific articles he looked at backing that up.
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    Nov 28, 2012 9:34 AM GMT
    "Much like many college students I’ve known, the species we think of as herbivores may only be passing through a phase. They probably ate a lot of meat in the past, their descendants will eventually do so again, and meanwhile they indulge every so often when nobody seems to be paying attention."

    What is the basis for the above statement about herbivores eventually doing so again? This statement seems completely off the wall as herbivores would have to hunt for meat that is much less available than plants. If there is any speculation, I would think it be just the opposite. As meat becomes less available, more carnivores will evolve into herbivores as the statement indicates has already happened.
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    Nov 28, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    stevee90 said
    calibro saidthat author is kinda an idiot by the last few paragraphs


    is it that time of the month for you? This is the second post from you today that made no contribution to the forum, unless if you count a bitchy comment as such.

    Re: the article - quite interesting. I've never seen a herbivore eat meat before but have heard of stories. Can't blame them though... veggies next to meat have like zero flavour


    except the last few paragraphs are scientifically shoddy and specious in their claims. given this is a thread created to discuss the merits of the article, i thought it relevant to point out the pitfalls of the article. are you done being an idiot now?
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    Nov 29, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
    Feeding sheep brains to cows is what gave us Mad Cow disease.
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    Nov 29, 2012 2:47 AM GMT
    calibro said
    stevee90 said
    calibro saidthat author is kinda an idiot by the last few paragraphs


    is it that time of the month for you? This is the second post from you today that made no contribution to the forum, unless if you count a bitchy comment as such.

    Re: the article - quite interesting. I've never seen a herbivore eat meat before but have heard of stories. Can't blame them though... veggies next to meat have like zero flavour


    except the last few paragraphs are scientifically shoddy and specious in their claims. given this is a thread created to discuss the merits of the article, i thought it relevant to point out the pitfalls of the article. are you done being an idiot now?


    The article is crap. Both herbivores and carnivores have been known to occassionally cross over to each others food sources for various reasons and for very brief periods depending on a number of circumstances, like lack of available minerals etc. Their digestive systems determine their most sought after diet. As well, starvation plays a role.

    Yikes didn't the author do ANY research?