I cant decide who is dumber in this.

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    Nov 28, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    NEW YORK — Four gay men are accusing a New Jersey organization of fraud for selling "conversion therapy" that falsely promised to make them straight.

    They said at a Manhattan news conference Tuesday that they were subjected to humiliations that included stripping naked and taking a baseball bat to effigies of their mothers.

    The four attended sessions at the Jersey City, N.J.-based Jews Offering New Alternatives to Healing, or JONAH. The nonprofit advertises in Jewish publications and claims to rid men of same-sex attractions.

    The men say the methods do not work and should not be marketed under New Jersey's consumer protection laws.

    JONAH did not return calls requesting comment.

    Its claim that being gay is a mental disorder that can be reversed has been rejected by the American Psychiatric Association.
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    Nov 28, 2012 4:12 AM GMT
    I see potential good here. In that these crackpot gay conversion programs will be legally declared frauds and banned from offering their phony & harmful services.

    I lost a BF to one of them in California, and so I must admit I have a personal hatred of them. But neither do reputable medical authorities support the claims & theories of these charlatans.

    As for the 4 accusers being dumb, it's possible they were persuaded to take this treatment by authority figures within their community. We certainly know of national figures who still promote these "cures" to include a well-known Republican Congresswoman and Presidential candidate from Minnesota whose husband has run such a gay conversion operation.
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    Nov 28, 2012 4:20 AM GMT
    Just speculating here..
    But maybe these 4 gay guys had an ulterior motive and participated in the program so that they can bring on the lawsuit and put them out of business?
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    Nov 28, 2012 6:20 AM GMT
    xrichx saidJust speculating here..
    But maybe these 4 gay guys had an ulterior motive and participated in the program so that they can bring on the lawsuit and put them out of business?

    that would be sweet
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    Nov 28, 2012 6:53 AM GMT
    a base ball bat???? Damn, the would hurt like hell
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    Nov 28, 2012 7:42 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saida base ball bat???? Damn, the would hurt like hell

    I was thinking the exact same thing!

    It warms my cockles to know I'm not the only dirty minded bastard around here!
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    Nov 28, 2012 7:47 AM GMT
    lilTanker said
    AMoonHawk saida base ball bat???? Damn, the would hurt like hell

    I was thinking the exact same thing!

    It warms my cockles to know I'm not the only dirty minded bastard around here!

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    Nov 28, 2012 11:03 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidI see potential good here. In that these crackpot gay conversion programs will be legally declared frauds and banned from offering their phony & harmful services.

    I lost a BF to one of them in California, and so I must admit I have a personal hatred of them. But neither do reputable medical authorities support the claims & theories of these charlatans.

    As for the 4 accusers being dumb, it's possible they were persuaded to take this treatment by authority figures within their community. We certainly know of national figures who still promote these "cures" to include a well-known Republican Congresswoman and Presidential candidate from Minnesota whose husband has run such a gay conversion operation.


    You "lost" a boyfriend to them? How? And for the record, I think they're ridculous, too.