To be a Republican today you need to believe:

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    Sep 10, 2008 6:38 PM GMT
    I friend just sent this to me and I was LMAO and then I thought of the Gay Republicans on this site and wondered what little lies they had to tell themselves that it is ok to be Republican.


    To be a Republican today you need to believe:

    1. Jesus loves you and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary
    Clinton.

    2. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's
    Daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him,
    and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we-can't-find-Bin-Laden" diversion.

    3. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but
    trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international
    harmo ny.

    4. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
    highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq


    5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
    multinational drug corporations can make decisions affecting all
    mankind without regulation.

    6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
    speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

    7. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

    8. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our longtime allies,
    then demand their cooperation and money.

    9. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing
    health care to all Americans is socialism. HMO's and insurance
    companies have the best interests of the public at heart.

    10. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
    creationism should be taught in schools.

    11. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable
    offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which
    thousands die is solid defense policy.

    12. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
    Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the
    Internet.

    13. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but
    George Bush's driving record is none of our business.

    14. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're
    a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our
    prayers for your re covery.

    15. Support for "Executive Privilege" in perpetuity for every
    Republican ever born, who will be born, or who might be born.

    16. What Bill Clinton did in the 1960's is of vital national
    interest, but what Bush did in the '80's is irrelevant.

    17. Support for hunters who shoot their friends and blame them for
    wearing orange vests similar to those worn by the quail.

    Friends don't let friends vote Republican

  • MuslDrew

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    Sep 10, 2008 8:36 PM GMT
    I'm going to be using this.....
    thanks!
  • EricLA

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    Sep 10, 2008 9:56 PM GMT
    Ah, what about Fiscal Conservatism? Hell, what about any form of fiscal responsibility? I used to be a Republican (though very moderate), mainly because of the fiscal issues. But this president went through the nice surplus left him by Bill Clinton, and then some. And then some more. And then some more... And he never met a spending bill he didn't like. If I recall, you could count his vetoes on a few fingers.

    And what about the Supreme Court? I think most Moderate Republicans would be concerned about a very Right tilt to the Supreme Court. The next president could choose maybe three supremes. If John McCain is in office, you can bet they'll be the conservative judges he promised. And I'm sure they'll be on the young side. So, expect the Supreme Court to have a conservative tilt for the next 30 years.
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    Sep 10, 2008 10:01 PM GMT
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    Sep 10, 2008 10:45 PM GMT
    (awaiting CuriousJockAZ response...)
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    Sep 10, 2008 10:46 PM GMT
    Here, I'll start his post for him...

    This is complicated.
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    Sep 10, 2008 11:01 PM GMT
    Reading a list like that is just more of the same -- playing the victim. If you want to stop being a victim, stop subscribing to the Dems' propaganda machine. We are winning the Iraq war. You can't compare Clinton's blow job to Bristol's getting knocked up by that hockey boy. Clinton lied about it and Bristol came totally clean and should be admired for that. Just calm down and take a Valium.
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    Sep 10, 2008 11:06 PM GMT
    obscenewish saidReading a list like that is just more of the same -- playing the victim. If you want to stop being a victim, stop subscribing to the Dems' propaganda machine. We are winning the Iraq war. You can't compare Clinton's blow job to Bristol's getting knocked up by that hockey boy. Clinton lied about it and Bristol came totally clean and should be admired for that. Just calm down and take a Valium.


    OW your eyes are turning a psycho shade of blue. Snap out of it man, before you become a televangelist.
  • Barricade

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    Sep 10, 2008 11:12 PM GMT
    obscenewish saidby Clinton lied about it and Bristol came totally clean and should be admired for that. Just calm down and take a Valium.


    LOL, and how would she deny being pregnant anyhow?
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    Sep 10, 2008 11:47 PM GMT
    The logic is as clear as a muddy river.

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    Sep 11, 2008 12:23 AM GMT
    Point number 2 shows a lack of any historical knowledge. Saddam's regime was never an friend to the United States and U.S.'s aide was described as "tilting" towards Iraq for a good reason. Iraq was the largest sphere of Soviet influence (most of their weapon support came from the Soviets) in the region and the U.S. did not want to have strong support for the country being the friend of our enemies. The U.S. offered minor support to Iraq to as the start of the "Duel Containment" policy for the region to replace the "Twin Pillar" policy after the fall of Shah of Iran. The idea of duel containment is simply the U.S. expected the two dangerous regimes to remain hostile towards each other keeping each other in check so that they would not threaten the interest of the U.S. an her allies in the region.

    It probably was not a good policy but at least recognize they had some logic to them. I see the world in black and white but the childish ascribing of motivations is senseless.

    I don't know what Bush's motives for this war are but I doubt it is cartoonishly simple as that.
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    Sep 11, 2008 2:14 AM GMT
    geras saidPoint number 2 shows a lack of any historical knowledge. Saddam's regime was never an friend to the United States and U.S.'s aide was described as "tilting" towards Iraq for a good reason. Iraq was the largest sphere of Soviet influence (most of their weapon support came from the Soviets) in the region and the U.S. did not want to have strong support for the country being the friend of our enemies. The U.S. offered minor support to Iraq to as the start of the "Duel Containment" policy for the region to replace the "Twin Pillar" policy after the fall of Shah of Iran. The idea of duel containment is simply the U.S. expected the two dangerous regimes to remain hostile towards each other keeping each other in check so that they would not threaten the interest of the U.S. an her allies in the region.

    It probably was not a good policy but at least recognize they had some logic to them. I see the world in black and white but the childish ascribing of motivations is senseless.

    I don't know what Bush's motives for this war are but I doubt it is cartoonishly simple as that.


    Seeing the world in black and white is not something to admit, let alone be proud of.

    Our dry-drunk president sees the world this way, and look where we're at now.

    As for point #2, it is the current administration that is completely ignoring history. Regardless of motives, they know that 99% of the country doesn't look back that far.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 11, 2008 2:29 AM GMT
    XRuggerATX said(awaiting CuriousJockAZ response...)



    Much of it is half-truths, exaggerated, or pure propaganda. I know the left likes to blame the Republicans for, well, everything bad...never giving them any credit for anything good. They like to vote FOR things when they seem like a good idea, then point fingers when they don't go as smoothly as planned. The world just isn't so conveniently black & white...so many factors involved...so many people involved...in both parties.
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    Sep 11, 2008 2:34 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said Much of it is half-truths, exaggerated, or pure propaganda.


    I'd be "curious" to see if you could point out ONE thing on that list that is either a half-truth, an exaggeration, or propaganda. That whole list is completely an accurate reflection of the mind of the Goooper.
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    Sep 11, 2008 2:49 AM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said Much of it is half-truths, exaggerated, or pure propaganda.

    I'd be "curious" to see if you could point out ONE thing on that list that is either a half-truth, an exaggeration, or propaganda. That whole list is completely an accurate reflection of the mind of the Goooper.

    Is the US actually promising health care for all Iraqis?
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    Sep 11, 2008 3:14 AM GMT
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    jprichva said
    CuriousJockAZ said Much of it is half-truths, exaggerated, or pure propaganda.

    I'd be "curious" to see if you could point out ONE thing on that list that is either a half-truth, an exaggeration, or propaganda. That whole list is completely an accurate reflection of the mind of the Goooper.

    Is the US actually promising health care for all Iraqis?


    Most likely via a Halliburton subcontractor through a no-bid contract funded by your federal income tax.
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    Sep 11, 2008 4:56 AM GMT
    And we went to war for Oil too right? God, get off the DNC talking points and have some original thoughts boys, by the way, Cheney's Haliburton stock were frozen BEFORE he became VP -- there was/is no monetary gain there, please before you post, just think and come up with a real argument. If you want to discuss the "real" world, and not the one that only exists in gay dance clubs let me know.
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    Sep 11, 2008 5:23 AM GMT
    lol that was great
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    Sep 11, 2008 5:31 AM GMT
    Gettingharder saidAnd we went to war for Oil too right? God, get off the DNC talking points and have some original thoughts boys, by the way, Cheney's Haliburton stock were frozen BEFORE he became VP -- there was/is no monetary gain there, please before you post, just think and come up with a real argument. If you want to discuss the "real" world, and not the one that only exists in gay dance clubs let me know.



    Can I be your new best friend? icon_lol.gif They'll bitch and moan about FOX NEWS, then quote something from the HUFFINGTON POST as if it's the freaking gospel. Sheeeeeeesh!
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    Sep 11, 2008 5:36 AM GMT
    And yea, what lies do you tell yourself?

    I mean, why believe in someone who doesn't believe in you, or anyone like you?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 11, 2008 5:40 AM GMT
    Ugh! Here we go again...victim, victim, victim...what John McCain thinks about gay people (and, for the record, I have no reason to believe that he HATES gays) pales in importance to me personally compared to how he plans to end the Iraqi War with honor, keep us safe, get us off our dependency on oil, and turn this economy around.
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    Sep 11, 2008 5:44 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidhow he plans to end the Iraqi War with honor


    Errrmmmmm.... I think you may be setting yourself up for a fall there mate. There is no honour left. There are better and worse outcomes, but I cannot see how either the UK or the USA can claim to have acted honourably.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 11, 2008 5:51 AM GMT
    Well, I have far more respect for our troops than that. We are winning the war, and we will win it with honor.
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    Sep 11, 2008 5:57 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidUgh! Here we go again...victim, victim, victim...what John McCain thinks about gay people (and, for the record, I have no reason to believe that he HATES gays) pales in importance to me personally compared to how he plans to end the Iraqi War with honor, keep us safe, get us off our dependency on oil, and turn this economy around.


    Dear Santa,
    Please bring Curious a Nice white jacket for christmas, but earlier. Also take him back to the north pole where he can do no harm. Please don't just bring him a lump of coal, he can't help that he is crazy .. like Bush and Cheney.

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    Sep 11, 2008 6:00 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidUgh! Here we go again...victim, victim, victim...what John McCain thinks about gay people (and, for the record, I have no reason to believe that he HATES gays) pales in importance to me personally compared to how he plans to end the Iraqi War with honor, keep us safe, get us off our dependency on oil, and turn this economy around.


    Will he start the next war with honor?

    Will this admitted economic novice really turn this economy around?

    Will someone that doesn't necessarily hate gays advocate for greater equality for gays?

    Lastly, your "pales by comparison" comment is condescending to those of us who feel strongly that security is meaningless without civil rights and civil liberties.