Barack References Putting Lipstick on a Pig - It's Still a Pig (Sarah Palin Reference?)

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    Sep 10, 2008 6:58 PM GMT


    So when Barack referenced putting lipstick on a pig and it still being a pig a dig at Sarah Palin?

    By the applause I say YES!

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    Sep 10, 2008 7:00 PM GMT
    Nope, just another false issue for the GOP to scream about.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 10, 2008 7:02 PM GMT
    I just thought it was amazing. Kudos to the media for pulling the McCain "lipstick" comment about Hillary's health care suggestions.

    Just another attempt to grab female voters.
  • auryn

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    Sep 10, 2008 8:00 PM GMT
    Not at all a dig at Palin; even McCain's daughter doesn't buy it.
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    Sep 10, 2008 8:20 PM GMT
    I've been waiting all day for this post to show up.

    Excuse me.....but I'm off to make my popcorn.....icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 10, 2008 8:22 PM GMT
    If he didn't say it, I will:
    She's a pig. And I'm talking only about her social conservatism here, not here physical self. . . .
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 10, 2008 8:24 PM GMT
    As savvy as a guy as Obama appears to be, at best it was a stupid choice of words considering the recent use of "lipstick" in Palin's speech. Maybe it was deliberate, or maybe Obama just isn't as savvy as I give him credit for. There is only one person in the race who wears lipstick, so in hindsight I am sure Obama wished he hadn't said it -- deliberate or not. If he didn't realize what he was saying before he said it, he surely should have GOTTEN IT like the entire audience he was speaking to got it and stand up and cheered. Sorry, guys, but he's not an idiot. He should have known right then and there that he stepped in it.
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    Sep 10, 2008 8:32 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAs savvy as a guy as Obama appears to be, at best it was a stupid choice of words considering the recent use of "lipstick" in Palin's speech. Maybe it was deliberate, or maybe Obama just isn't as savvy as I give him credit for. There is only one person in the race who wears lipstick, so in hindsight I am sure Obama wished he hadn't said it -- deliberate or not.


    Don't kid your self. He knew what he was doing, check out his reaction to the reaction.

    But I agree with "sfinboston," that it's a non-issue. But fun none the less. icon_wink.gif

    But his denial is a bit weak and quite ballsy at the same time.

    I wish he'd have just waited til some reporter asked him about it, then just put on a "who me?" face.
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    Sep 10, 2008 8:35 PM GMT
    In the scheme of things, does it really matter?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 10, 2008 8:36 PM GMT
    Personally, I think the whole thing is a hoot because the dems just haven't been able to gain any traction what so ever since pretty much the moment Palin first stepped out into America's consciousness. I don't even think McCain had any idea of the impact this choice for V.P.was going to have in the race.






    VineyardHmo saidIn the scheme of things, does it really matter?



    No, it really doesn't matter. At best it's just a distraction that keeps the focus on Palin more than anyone else in the race.
  • MuslDrew

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    Sep 10, 2008 8:38 PM GMT
    It's been shown repeatedly that McCain made the exact same reference towards Hillary Clinton's health care plan ealier this year.
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    Sep 10, 2008 8:44 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidPersonally, I think the whole thing is a hoot because the dems just haven't been able to gain any traction what so ever since pretty much the moment Palin first stepped out into America's consciousness. I don't even think McCain had any idea of the impact this choice for V.P.was going to have in the race.


    You are right.
    That is why I am looking forward to the debates when they can actually speak about the issues at length and what they will do in office to impact the average americans life versus all of these petty sound bites.
    Health Care,foreign oil dependance , the environment, deficit reduction and education are the real issues..... not wether a pig is wearing lipstick.



  • iGator

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    Sep 10, 2008 8:48 PM GMT
    Personally, I'm glad he said it...it needed to be said! icon_biggrin.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 10, 2008 9:02 PM GMT
    mnjock2003 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidPersonally, I think the whole thing is a hoot because the dems just haven't been able to gain any traction what so ever since pretty much the moment Palin first stepped out into America's consciousness. I don't even think McCain had any idea of the impact this choice for V.P.was going to have in the race.


    You are right.
    That is why I am looking forward to the debates when they can actually speak about the issues at length and what they will do in office to impact the average americans life versus all of these petty sound bites.
    Health Care,foreign oil dependance , the environment, deficit reduction and education are the real issues..... not wether a pig is wearing lipstick.





    I agree, and I really am looking forward to the debates because we're all tired of the politics and talking points and want to hear some solid ideas and solutions. I wouldn't underestimate Palin's ability to perform well. She may just clean Biden's clock. It will be good TV at the very least
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    Sep 10, 2008 9:02 PM GMT
    Palin is a whole lot worse than a pig.
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    Sep 10, 2008 9:08 PM GMT
    I was just wondering, why all of a sudden has "sexism" became this "hot" issue?? Um, like sexism hasn't been around for DECADES! So strange how all of a sudden sexism is so faux-pau...especially in a male dominated world...and especially given the Republicans' history of sexism.

    I can't help but be a little bit skeptical of Republicans' sudden interest in the glass ceiling either. After all, this is the party that threw women under the bus in favor of businesses that practice wage discrimination(most recently with Lilly Ledbetter -vs- GOODYEAR). This is the party stymied the Equal Rights Amendment. This is the party that not only wants to force women here and abroad to carry unwanted pregnancies to term, but also wants to deny them access to a range of contraception options.

    So, forgive me for not giving a flying-fuck about Palin and her pig lips.
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    Sep 10, 2008 9:14 PM GMT
    VineyardHmo saidI was just wondering, why all of a sudden has "sexism" became this "hot" issue?? Um, like sexism hasn't been around for DECADES! So strange how all of a sudden sexism is so faux-pau...especially in a male dominated world...and especially given the Republicans' history of sexism.

    I can't help but be a little bit skeptical of Republicans' sudden interest in the glass ceiling either. After all, this is the party that threw women under the bus in favor of businesses that practice wage discrimination(most recently with Lilly Ledbetter -vs- GOODYEAR). This is the party stymied the Equal Rights Amendment. This is the party that not only wants to force women here and abroad to carry unwanted pregnancies to term, but also wants to deny them access to a range of contraception options.

    So, forgive me for not giving a flying-fuck about Palin and her pig lips.


    When it comes to beliefs, principles, politics, winning and losing, principles are usually thrown out pretty fast, whether by dems or repubs.

    What I hate about Repubs is that they fake like their above that. Even as you watch them throw principles out the window they tell you they have them.
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    Sep 10, 2008 9:16 PM GMT
    This comment is not calling Palin a pig. It is using lipstick as a metaphor for Palin.

    The saying, "It's like putting lipstick on a pig," is a reference to making something unattractive or problematic more attractive, by dressing it up - putting lipstick on it.

    Obama clearly believes that the Republicans are a problem and that Palin was chosen to make the Republican ticket more attractive. She's the lipstick, not the pig.
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    Sep 10, 2008 9:17 PM GMT
    A comparison to a fly and its children may be more apt. After all, why insult pigs?

  • iGator

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    Sep 10, 2008 9:20 PM GMT
    makeumyne saidThis comment is not calling Palin a pig. It is using lipstick as a metaphor for Palin.

    The saying, "It's like putting lipstick on a pig," is a reference to making something unattractive or problematic more attractive, by dressing it up - putting lipstick on it.

    Obama clearly believes that the Republicans are a problem and that Palin was chosen to make the Republican ticket more attractive. She's the lipstick, not the pig.


    I think we all know that Obama wasn't calling Palin a pig...but if the shoe fits. icon_lol.gif
  • auryn

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    Sep 10, 2008 9:22 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAs savvy as a guy as Obama appears to be, at best it was a stupid choice of words considering the recent use of "lipstick" in Palin's speech. Maybe it was deliberate, or maybe Obama just isn't as savvy as I give him credit for. There is only one person in the race who wears lipstick, so in hindsight I am sure Obama wished he hadn't said it -- deliberate or not. If he didn't realize what he was saying before he said it, he surely should have GOTTEN IT like the entire audience he was speaking to got it and stand up and cheered. Sorry, guys, but he's not an idiot. He should have known right then and there that he stepped in it.


    How dare you say that! You know there is no possible way for me to give an honest rebuttal for such a good point. icon_wink.gif

    We shall see on October 2 just how good she is. She's a quick study; five colleges in six years proves that.
  • Barricade

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    Sep 10, 2008 9:36 PM GMT



    Enough with these "diversions" bring on the debates!!
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    Sep 10, 2008 10:03 PM GMT
    We are not going to let the "spin doctors" hijack this election, as they have in the past. The only two things that matter are:

    1. Who is better qualified to be president
    2. Who has better positions on the issues

    I say that McCain and Obama are both well qualified.

    Biden's qualifications are obvious.

    Palin's qualifications are marginal. A law degree from Harvard, 6 years in a state house, 2 years in the US Senate, and 2 years running for president makes one more qualified than a degree in Journalism from Idaho, 8 years as a major of a small town, and 2 as Governor of Alaska. Obama has spent 2 years proving that he understands the issues.

    The idea that if McCain should die in January, Palin would be ready to serve as president is a big stretch. People who can't see that don't understand the complexity of leading the US government. Selecting Palin as a running mate at the point when McCain did is an insult to the intelligence of everyone in the US. And keeping her away from interviewers for two weeks just shows how unprepared she is. I will give her the benefit of the doubt, but she had better start discussing some issues and presenting some ideas if she wants me to accept that she is qualified.

    The most cynical thing of it all is that the choice of Palin was obviously calculated to be:

    1. Divisive-- Palin is much more conservative than McCain, and her choice once again drives a wedge on social issues

    2. A distraction-- she is an unknown, and her choice causes the media to spent a lot of the last weeks before the election responding to sensationalism, rather than policy issues

    3. Pandering-- the right wingers such as anti-gay and anti-abortion rights activists were reluctant to give to McCain. Although he is moderate on those issues (comparatively), she is not, and right wing groups will now donate to the campaign because of her

    The right choice for McCain was Joe Lieberman. Unfortunatelty for us all, he went with "more of the same..."
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    Sep 10, 2008 10:12 PM GMT
    I thought the term "pig" was commonly used in reference to men, not women.
    Anyway, I am offended.......I like pigs, they are cute and adorable, and I demand that people stop using cutie little piglets as a reference for something negative. Someone has to stand up for the pigs of the world, and that someone is me.
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    Sep 10, 2008 10:15 PM GMT
    Ok, ....it'll put it on here...

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