More Baptist Church Banter

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    Dec 03, 2012 7:47 AM GMT
    So till the beginning of this year I was going to an L.A. area church that apparently had roots with the southern Baptist church. I was going with my volleyball buddy and his ex girlfriend. A year later I learn from this ex-girlfriend that while I was going there, some homophobic guys picked up that some gay guy (maybe phrased in a more hateful way than that) was going to church there and they didn't want any gay guys there. Some of the good guys in the church were very put-off by what these guys were talking about. It normally is a welcoming church except apparently gay people are not really totally welcomed. I guess they had gaydar or something. I'm just a normal guy but these guys picked up on me for some reason and caused a scene at the men's meeting. I of course quit the church when I found out guys like us weren't allowed to become members. My female friend said I should go back to church there and ignore the ignorant people. But I told her why if I am not accepted into the church there. She didn't understand.
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    Dec 03, 2012 1:04 PM GMT
    A gay couple we know love to sing together in choral groups. They belonged to a gay & lesbian chorus my partner co-founded, where I met them. They're also church goers, and joined a large Baptist church in Fort Lauderdale in order to sing in their 100-voice choir, that also performs outside the church throughout the area. The church is renowned for its extravagant annual Christmas pageant, that in the past has included camels, donkeys & sheep onstage for the Nativity scene.

    This couple performed for a year, their fine singing skills an asset to the choir. Until one day a choir official told them anonymous information had been received that they were a gay couple. The source or method were not disclosed, but they could easily have been seen at one of our gay chorus performances, or perhaps through a newspaper photo of the chorus.

    When asked if they were in fact gay they didn't lie. They were then told they were being summarily expelled from both the choir and the church itself, without benefit of hearing or appeal, since "practicing homosexuals" were not acceptable to the congregation. It's a "religious freedom" issue so naturally there's no recourse with the government, and this is Red Florida, anyway.

    Word spread within the gay community, and singers now avoid that church, and I'm told the choir has begun asking about sexual orientation when screening new members. Which denies them the potential talents of several hundred experienced voices from the 3 main gay choruses in our area. There's a closeted lesbian couple that still performs there, however, despite being aware of what happened to the 2 men. In fact, all 4 of them were once members of the same gay & lesbian chorus, and know each other.
  • mr_bijae

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    Dec 03, 2012 7:39 PM GMT
    The church, like the republican party, need you to fully support them through your donations. Please don't mind that they will never stand up for you or your individual rights. But believe them when they say they want you back. Your salvation through donation is required for their very existence.
  • ThatSwimmerGu...

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    Dec 03, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
    The church I go to in Kansas is pretty open to gays. I think at some point a member told a gay member they aren't welcome, word got around and the next week the pastor talks about how everyone is welcome at the church.
    But I know most churches would freak out over it.
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    Dec 03, 2012 9:50 PM GMT
    I'd always rather go somewhere I feel welcome.

    http://www.gaychurch.org/Find_a_Church/united_states/us_california.htm
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    Dec 03, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    No church has the right to expel Gays.

    The criteria for church membership is not sexual orientation, but whether he is a true believer in Jesus Christ as Saviour.

    If sexual orientation is the criteria for church membership instead of faith in Christ, then all those who wear wool and cotton garments should also be expelled, as those who eat pork or black pudding (which is made from blood), along with those who have divorced and remarried.

    In other words, those who desire to live by the Law must obey the whole Law, or else he would be condemned.
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    Dec 03, 2012 10:20 PM GMT
    I don't think I'll ever understand why - with so much research that disproves scripture - anyone would want to go to church in the first place.

    That said, you should go back and kick those guys' asses right there in church. Just for fun, you should blind-side them during a prayer while their eyes are closed.
  • jayatl56

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    Dec 04, 2012 4:11 AM GMT
    hmmm. I am Roman Catholic and while Holy Rome spews its bullshit about the gay lifestyle etc they don't throw us out of the Church. They have said that men and women can be gay but must abstain from sexual activity in order to receive the Sacraments. If, someway, that you were on your back Saturday night and on you knees Sunday morning, they could refuse you communion. My pastor knew me and my BF for years and never once refused us communion or any sacrament. As a matter of fact, my BF was not Catholic and was welcomed into the Church getting baptized and confirmed one Easter. I think the Baptist Church and many so called evangelical churches don't really know true Christian living. Live as Christ lived, period. He walked among the prostitutes and even a tax collector (the worst of the worst back then). No one, but no one can tell me what's on Gods mind about any of this. For me, He is about total love and that includes me - equally with everyone else on this planet.

    Of course, Baptists will say that Catholics will go to hell for being part of a cult so I guess I'm double damned!
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    Dec 04, 2012 4:14 AM GMT
    Episcopal Churches are very very accepting and culturally diverse.
  • wdbroadus

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    Dec 04, 2012 4:17 AM GMT
    braddomo saidSo till the beginning of this year I was going to an L.A. area church that apparently had roots with the southern Baptist church. I was going with my volleyball buddy and his ex girlfriend. A year later I learn from this ex-girlfriend that while I was going there, some homophobic guys picked up that some gay guy (maybe phrased in a more hateful way than that) was going to church there and they didn't want any gay guys there. Some of the good guys in the church were very put-off by what these guys were talking about. It normally is a welcoming church except apparently gay people are not really totally welcomed. I guess they had gaydar or something. I'm just a normal guy but these guys picked up on me for some reason and caused a scene at the men's meeting. I of course quit the church when I found out guys like us weren't allowed to become members. My female friend said I should go back to church there and ignore the ignorant people. But I told her why if I am not accepted into the church there. She didn't understand.



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