Theater of the Absurd: A Gay POTUS or VPOTUS Candidate.

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    Sep 12, 2008 6:11 PM GMT
    Now that the U.S. is flirting with diversity in it's potential top leaders, the thought occurred to me that we're just around the bend from never for having a gay candidate on the dem or repub ticket. Do you think tit would help or hurt or would it have no impact if a candidate on one or the other ticket is gay? I'm being very generous to republicans here. I think the separation in acceptance of gays between the two is an order of magnitude and that a gay on the republican ticket really would fall into the category of theater of the absurd.
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    Sep 12, 2008 6:26 PM GMT
    I know guys who would love to be First Lady.
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    Sep 12, 2008 9:03 PM GMT
    There have been several polls that show that most Americans would be OK with a gay president. One said even more so than an atheist one icon_eek.gif

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-poll27-2008aug27,0,1690249.story

    http://www.gayagenda.com/2008/08/poll-shows-america-ok-with-gay-president/
  • EricLA

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    Sep 12, 2008 9:28 PM GMT
    Well, I think it really does hinge on the outcome of this election. If McCain wins, he'll likely be able to seat 2 or possibly 3 Supreme Court Justices. I'm sure he'll select younger arch conservatives like Alito and Thomas, as he's promised. That shift will ensure a conservative Supreme Court for at least a couple of decades. Maybe longer. Think of all the gay rights issues that could come in front of the courts during that time. Sure, lgbt citizens of New York or California would likely be insulated from the worst of it, but what about all the lgbt people in other states? In many places they could be fired for being gay or otherwise discriminated against. Hardly a way of being able to excel in areas that could launch someone as POTUS or VPOTUS.

    And as a former (Moderate) Republican, it would really take Social Conservatives to lose their grip of power on the Republican party (particularly on the state level) for an openly lgbt person to be on their ticket. The choice would create a rift in the party and the Social Conservatives would just stay home on election day. They're still too entrenched and powerful for this to happen anytime in the foreseeable future.
  • dfrourke

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    Sep 13, 2008 1:24 AM GMT

    What about just the idea of a bachelor POTUS...I think the last one was Harrison?

    [someone correct me here].

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    May 11, 2011 7:38 PM GMT
    James Buchanan

    dfrourke said
    What about just the idea of a bachelor POTUS...I think the last one was Harrison?

    [someone correct me here].

    - David
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    May 11, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    Looks like we may have already had both: President James Buchanan and Vice-President William Rufus King.

    From the Chronicle of Higher Education:


    Buchanan’s long-time living companion, William Rufus King, was referred to by critics as his “better half,” ‘’his wife,” and “Aunt Fancy.” Around Washington, the pair were known as the “Siamese twins,” slang at the time for gays and lesbians.

    King was vice-president under Pierce, who served immediately before Buchanan. Incidentally, while Buchanan was the only bachelor president, King was the only bachelor vice president.) Updike’s conclusory analysis that the two of them would never dare to consummate their relationship is, however, not persuasive. Other authors have noted that Senator King was called “Miss Nancy” by Andrew Jackson, “Mrs. James Buchanan” by James K. Polk’s law partner, and “Buchanan’s better half” and “Aunt Fancy” by others. Senator King was noted for his “fastidious habits and conspicuous intimacy with bachelor Buchanan.” It’s not clear whether the cruel jibes were based on the facts of the Buchanan-King friendship (meaning they were gay) or if the two of them stayed fast friends precisely because of the bullying from other frontier politicians (meaning that they might not have been). It’s also possible that perhaps King was gay, and Buchanan was not, and that was what led to their intense friendship.