HIV doesn't exist?

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    Sep 12, 2008 6:32 PM GMT
    I found this article in continuum magazine. It's pretty long but the point is made near the end.

    According to this article, HIV doesn't exist... icon_neutral.gif

    Read for yourselves:

    Excerpted from: The HIV Homofascist Identity


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    By Alex Russell, Assistant Editor, Continuum Magazine

    Graphic Violence

    Red ribbons and Swastika armbands


    “The people need wholesome fear; they want to fear something. They want someone to frighten them and make them shudderingly submissive.”
    — Ernst Roehm, gay leader of the
    Nazi SA Brownshirts

    “We have created our myth. The myth is a faith, a passion. It is not necessary for it to be a reality.”
    — Benito Mussolini,
    The Naples Speech, 1922

    Have you ever noticed how defensive, angry and hysterical many HIV diagnosed gay men become when you inform them that HIV does not exist?

    It is as if they need the necessary HIV lie to sustain their existence; the virtual HIV acting as an identity crutch to fill up a void. Many attributes of the HIV Homofascist Movement (or HIVism) resemble those of Fascism and the psychology of the Freikorpsmen: an authoritarian personality; extreme emphasis on the masculine principal, male dominance and blood brotherhood bonding; exclusive membership of an elite in-group; and the fetishization and aestheticization of suffering, self-sacrifice and death.

    Freikorpsmen made war a way of life where desiring production becomes death production. Many HIV Blood Brothers see the war
    on AIDS as a way of death where the Freudian pleasure principle and the death drive become indistinguishable. The Swastika armband has now been replaced by the HIV positive tattoo and the red ribbon.

    HIV Group Hysteria

    Fascism and HIVism are totalitarian regimes based on a single-party system with an overt celebration of myth and the anti-rational through the powers of rites, rituals, and group hysteria trance bonding. The initiation rite to join the HIV Blood Brotherhood is the blood sacrifice of the putative HIV test. A positive status initiates you into the HIV Freemasonry.

    One can see actual group hypnotic trance phenomena working within both Fascism and HIVism where devotion, ceremony, and obedience are called upon and used by the cloned membership of the elite in-group. Fascism and HIVism, as products of group hysteria, are psychologically contagious cultural/social beliefs spread through mass hysteria, mass-hypnosis and mass-media. Psychologist Gustav Le Bon stated: “In a group, every sentiment and act is contagious, and contagious to such a degree that an individual readily sacrifices his personal interest to the collective interest.”

    Theodor Adorno gave an account of the regressive psychology of organized groups which fits the ethos of the HIV Homofascist Movement: “What happens when masses are caught up by fascist propaganda is not spontaneous primary expression of instinct but a quasi-scientific revitalization of their psychology - the artificial regression described by Freud in his discussion of organized groups. The psychology of the masses has been taken over by their leaders and transformed into a means of their domination. The collectivization and institutionalization of the spell have made the transference more and more indirect so that the phoniness of enthusiastic identification and the dynamics of group psychology have tremendously increased.”

    HIV Homofascist Identity works through clone-imprinting and mimetic desire. We desire what others desire because we imitate their desires; thus HIV belief is psychologically contagious. Many gay men long to belong to the HIV Blood Brotherhood because they feel secure and at home in this slave-morality clone-zone where blind belief replaces autonomous thinking. At a psychological level, the price for the passionate devotion to HIV Belief is giving up a critical faculty: when people leave HIV Belief (like leaving Scientology) you see them regain their critical faculty. There is no loyalty without hatred: passionate membership to the HIV Homofascist ingroup can fuel hatred for the outgroup (the HIV-negative outsider or HIV non-existentialists) - seeing AIDS dissidents as a threat and obstacle to their blind HIV Belief.

    Giggles from the Gas Chamber

    AIDS doctors (like Nazi doctors) operate through genocidal bureaucracy using pseudo-science to justify sexual ethnic cleansing. Many gay men branded HIV-positive passively accept that they are marked for slaughter, slavishly sign their own death warrants and run giggling into the gas chambers. One Nazi doctor, Robert Jay Lifton wrote: “The genocidal bureaucracy contributes also to collective feelings of inevitability. The elaborateness of the bureaucracy’s organization coveys a sense of the inexorable - that one might as well, as a perpetrator or victim, go along because nothing else can be
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    Sep 12, 2008 6:44 PM GMT
    Can you spell "nutbar". Trust me HIV exists. Notice the plunge in AIDS related deaths after the new HIV medications were introduced? Go to an AIDS memorial sometime and look at the frequency of names. Starting late in the 1990s the number of deaths started decreasing, and have continued ever since. The number of deaths due to AIDS in Africa has dropped since cheap HIV drugs were introduced.

    The biggest % of people living with HIV are heterosexual. HIV is a virus that gorillas and other primates are basically immune to. Meanwhile there is a similar virus that they are impacted by that humans are immune to (you cannot be immune to both). HIV came out of the jungles of Cameroon sometime in the 1950s. Due to the isolated nature of Africa, it was not until people started travelling long distances via airplane that disease started spreading in earnest. Since it has a long incubation period (on average 8-10 years before serious illness starts occurring) many people were infected in the 1970s and never new it until the 1980s.

    This article is why the internet can be dangerous. Stupid, outrageous claims are propogated and people who are vulnerable believe them and start practicing unsafe sex. A few months ago I read about a porn star who is HIV+ and who barebacks. His explanation for his behaviour was he did not think HIV caused AIDS. I also have an internet friend who first anal sex experience was with an older man who insisted that HIV did not exist. They had unprotected sex. Fortunately my friend was the "top" so the risk was lessened. .
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    Sep 12, 2008 7:10 PM GMT
    The president of Iran would like this article. Afterall he thinks the holocaust and homosexuals don't exist either.
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    Sep 12, 2008 9:26 PM GMT
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    Sep 12, 2008 9:30 PM GMT
    can I get a link for this article?
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    Sep 12, 2008 9:45 PM GMT
    Pinny saidcan I get a link for this article?


    You get a lot of hits when you google AIDS/HIV. The article(s) are posted here:



    HTTP http://curezone.com/diseases/aids/


    and he posted here


    HTTP http://www.laleva.cc/choice/aids/aids_emails.html



    We know so much about pathogens now so I don't understand why infection is still so wide spread... I've never heard about the incubation period though, hmm...
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    Sep 12, 2008 9:57 PM GMT
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    Pinny saidcan I get a link for this article?


    You get a lot of hits when you google AIDS/HIV. The article(s) are posted here:



    HTTP http://curezone.com/diseases/aids/


    and he posted here


    HTTP http://www.laleva.cc/choice/aids/aids_emails.html



    We know so much about pathogens now so I don't understand why infection is still so wide spread... I've never heard about the incubation period though, hmm...



    Well, it's still being spread because people are still making risky choices regarding their personal safety when it comes to sex. I know your HIV education is still growing as you've mentioned in other threads, but the incubation period is something that has been well documented since the late 80's. Maybe it isn't mentioned all that much so it's easy to see how it might not have easily come to your attention. This coupled with the aforementioned risky decision making makes it even easier to spread.
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    Sep 12, 2008 10:38 PM GMT
    you know, I started to type a long letter on what a fool the writer of this article is but decided to save my finger the hassel
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    Sep 13, 2008 1:00 AM GMT

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    Sep 13, 2008 2:03 AM GMT
    I first ran across this psuedoscience madness with
    James P. Hogan
    (yep, the famous science fiction author).

    http://www.duesberg.com/viewpoints/aids-heresy-hogan.html

    Shame, because he really is a good writer. Just went kooky with old age I guess.
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    Sep 14, 2008 1:17 AM GMT
    I wish they were right cuz my brother would still be alive.
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    Sep 14, 2008 1:35 AM GMT
    All the science in the world says HIV exists. So why would someone say it doesn't?

    This person can't be that fundamentally ignorant, for his presentation evidences education, capable of understanding the true facts. This suggests that he is knowingly rejecting the facts.

    Now what could his motive be to state a falsehood? What would be the result if his falsehood is accepted by others?

    1. Reduced funding for HIV/AIDS research.

    2. Reduced HIV/AIDS education.

    3. More unsafe sex, especially among high-risk groups like gay men.

    4. A resultant increase in HIV-related deaths, especially of the high-risk groups, affecting mostly gay men.

    5. The genocide through disease of gay men.

    I wonder if this man wants us dead.