Mormon Church gives more compassion to gays, won't change marriage stance

  • metta

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    Dec 07, 2012 7:39 AM GMT
    Mormon Church gives more compassion to gays, won't change marriage stance
    http://www.Mormonsandgays.org is aimed at clarifying the church's position, particularly after heavy criticism for its support of Prop 8, a California constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage.


    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/121206/mormon-church-gives-more-compassion-gays-wont-ch
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    Dec 07, 2012 12:50 PM GMT
    Oh, so now they're playing the "love the sinner hate the sin" card.

    So typical of churches...
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    Dec 07, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    Um...that's...something? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 07, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    "Where the Church stands:
    The experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is. Even though individuals do not choose to have such attractions, they do choose how to respond to them. With love and understanding, the Church reaches out to all God’s children, including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters."

    Ridiculous. . icon_rolleyes.gif

    fuck u, church. Fuck u hard!
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    Dec 07, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
    At lease the Mormans aren't financing countries that execute gays.
  • reikiman

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    Dec 07, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    From the Church statement page:

    Where the Church stands:

    The experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is. Even though individuals do not choose to have such attractions, they do choose how to respond to them. With love and understanding, the Church reaches out to all God’s children, including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters.


    My comments as a Mormon who was extremely active in the religion in my teenage years up until my early thirties:

    There is nothing wrong morally with same sex attraction. It is no more complex than opposite sex attraction. Attraction in itself comes with complexities. That is part of life. Complexities are there to help us realize who we really are at the core of our being. Interaction brings up all these complexities of human personality.

    Acting on what is natural to you as a person when it comes to sexuality is not a sin. What is sin anyway; but someone's perception or disagreement of an action that does not validate their own lifestyle. To not live as you were created to live is a gross violation of integrity. Religion preaches this from the pulpit but is far from living it in truth for the most part.

    Attraction is attraction and sometimes it makes no sense at all. It just is. Do gay people choose to be attracted to another gay person? No more so than the heterosexual to the opposite sex. Its in the makeup of that human being.
    People experiment with sexuality all the time to better understand themselves.
    Some are straight, some are gay, some swing either way.

    Every one does choose how to respond to attractions if they are not living in complete life denial. Not choosing to do something is also a choice.

    Every life on the planet has a purpose for being, be it understood or not. Love knows no gender. Love is the essense and center of all balance.

    Sex and the expression thereof is divine of nature. When two come together something in the body chemisty happens that is natural and creates a bonding type of feeling. Thus, the old expression of being twine. Humanity is the one that puts labels on things as being perverted, bad, good, etc. All is experience. All experience is growth or awareness of some kind.

    In both the straight and gay life style there can be imbalance on the expression of sexuality. Some simply can not get enough of it. Some are addicted to the sensation of ejaculation or getting fucked, sucked etc.... Sexual dysfunction goes far beyond the realm of not being able to perform or get it up. Sex can become an addiction like food, alcohol or drugs.

    Sexual expression is a good thing. Sex is fun or should be. Sex is not completely about pro-creation or even bonding. The sexual act is part of getting in touch with our core being. We are sexual beings. It's our makeup. Some may disagree with me on this last comment or you may disagree with my whole commentary. Thats fine. Be and live who you are.

    Sexuality and spirituality are connected and I say this without using the context of organized religion. If organized religion has a place in your life that is fine. If it does not that is also fine. Just be true to who you are. Live in that integrity, for this is your truth. Live you life in abundance.


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    Dec 07, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    How generous of them to still welcome us into their buildings where they'll tell us how everything about us is an abomination.
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    Dec 07, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
    Wait til the millionaires have gay children they love. See how things change. icon_confused.gif
  • TheIStrat

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    Dec 07, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
    Fuck them
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    Dec 07, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidFuck them


    ... with my entire arm.
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    Dec 07, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
    ChoklitDaddy said
    TheIStrat saidFuck them


    ... with my entire arm.


    Shoulder deep.
  • Machina

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    Dec 08, 2012 6:38 AM GMT
    This "warm" and "inviting" friendliness they are offering, quickly melts away when the truth comes out that a person is gay.

    More ridiculous posturing by another hate-filled organization. I am sure this issue will unfold exactly as it did for the african-americans which weren't allowed to hold the priesthood until 1978.

    The mormon church keeps finding themselves on the wrong side of history. Why should this issue be any different? Give it a few years and then some magical revelation will come from god saying that he really doesn't hate the gays.
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    Dec 08, 2012 8:00 AM GMT
    That site is definitely homophobic, but with the subtle but not so subtle "We think homosexuality is an illness that we need to help them repress so they can be rehabilitated as normal like us" attitude (they didn't actually say that literally, but that's what they were saying). That is, their "compassion", their idea of "Christ's love" is what motivates gay people to repress themselves and deny their homosexual desires and feelings, to attempt to "cure" us as if our homosexuality was like alcoholism or a drug addiction. That's how the site views gay people.