Former Florida Governor Charlie Crist Turns Democrat

  • metta

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    Dec 08, 2012 6:31 AM GMT
    Former Florida Governor Charlie Crist Turns Democrat

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/07/breaking-former-florida-governor-charlie-crist-turns-democrat/
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    Dec 08, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
    http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/08/15764792-former-florida-gov-charlie-crist-becomes-a-democrat?lite

    Another article. I was told about Crist's switch by a high-ranking Florida Republican at a United Way fundraiser last Thursday night.

    The thought is he'll run again for Governor in 2014, and maybe take an Obama post in the meantime. But that could depend on whether he comes out gay, per persistent rumors. And from first-person claims from gays around the State I've met, but whose truthfulness I couldn't determine.

    The Republicans kept the rumors quiet when Crist was their Governor, and the Democrats had the dilemma of offending their base if they used it against him.

    Now the tables are reversed, so I have no doubt the Republicans will fan those rumors, if Crist doesn't come out himself. But Crist will also have to change his past policies if he wants the gay vote, since he's been on record as anti-gay marriage and adoption rights.
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    Dec 08, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
    Thank you for beating me to this---I just saw this online and intended to post it.

    As of now, Charlie has the inside track on the Democratic nomination for Governor, which he'll likely throw his hat into the ring sometime soon. The story I saw mentioned there will be plenty of competition for him in the primary with former candidate Alex Sink toying with the idea of running again. Also mentioned is former State Senator Nan Rich (D-Weston).

    This may also close the door for someone I think would also make a great Governor and that is current Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer. Dyer is a great individual who has pleased (and sometimes miffed) the gay community here, however, the guy is 100 percent class and we have prospered well during his previous two terms as Mayor (Dyer won re-election to a third term earlier this year). The downside is he is unknown outside of the Orlando area, which if he were to run, would put him behind Crist and Sink fighting with Rich for third place.

    In my opinion, I believe Charlie has seen the light here and the virtual collateral damage Republicans have done to the state of Florida. My belief is his heart is in the right place and would appeal not only to Democrats, but to Republicans that are also fed up of the nasty conservative ways of their party. Personally, I like what Charlie has become....I adore Alex Sink and believe 2014 might also be her time as well (if she had won in 2010, it would have been a shit storm for her). Rich is unknown to me up here in Central Florida.

    Right now, it's a wait-and-see game and we have good Dems lined up to take a swing at Toxic Rick Scott. I want 'em all to win in 2014, and that includes Dyer as well.
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    Dec 08, 2012 6:29 PM GMT
    After years of nurturing and love, he finally comes out of the republican closet, swell. Now the questions remain, was he born a democrat and just pretended to be a republican for society to accept him, or was he seduced into the democratic lifestyle because of all the hotness and sexiness?
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    Dec 09, 2012 1:59 AM GMT
    I dont know what to expect next in the Sunshine State! Buddy reminds me of Buddy MacKay who of course lost to Jeb Bush in the general election for Florida governor in Nov. 1998. That loss affected the presidential election of 2000 - in that per Florida law if MacKay had won the winning party of the previous gubernatorial election get stop billing on the following presidential ballot - so if Gore was listed first, there would be no butterfly ballot, no miscast votes for Nader etc! True! And ironically Buddy MacKay did become governor without ever running again when Gov. Lawton Chiles, who Buddy served with as Lt Gov. (and was term-limited and couldnt run again in that Nov. 1998 race) died unexpectedly on Dec. 12, 1998 and MacKay served the 23 remaining days of Chiles' term until Jeb Bush was sworn in On Jan. 5, 1999.
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    Dec 09, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
    I wonder when he's going to come out of the closet?

    If Charlie ain't queer...than neither am I.
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    Dec 09, 2012 4:10 PM GMT
    Why would he now?
  • KissTheSky

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    Dec 09, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
    Obviously Christ would be better than another GOP disaster like Gov. Scott, but a state that big and diverse shouldn't have to settle for a conniving opportunist who changes party repeatedly to suit his career ambitions of the moment. (Much like our friend Mitt Romney, who remade himself so many times that eventually people saw through the BS and by then he was unelectable.)

    I think Florida can do a lot better than Charlie Christ for governor.
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    Dec 10, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidI think Florida can do a lot better than Charlie Christ for governor.

    Agreed. The problem is, he's more electable than most other possibles.
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    Dec 13, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
    Charlie Crist regrets signing anti-gay marriage petition

    http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/charlie-crist-regrets-signing-anti-gay-marriage-petition


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    Dec 13, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
    He says "Would I do it today?" And looks down, can't even face the reporter, then says quickly and hardly audibly. "no" and then quickly & clearly goes off to "And I think the best way to judge bla bla fucking bla"

    I think we know how to judge that.

    Where does that newspaper get off headlining that as "Regret"? Since when doesn't regret contain an apology to us?

    If this guy winds up as the democratic pick for Governor of Florida, I suspect I'll be writing in a vote instead for Alfred E. Neuman. I don't recall hearing anything about Alfred signing a petition in favor of violating our human rights.

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    http://www.cfcoalition.com/full_article.php?article_no=99
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    CFC Applauds Governor Charlie Crist For Endorsing the Florida Marriage Amendment!
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    The Christian Family Coalition applauds Governor Charlie Crist for publicly endorsing the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment which is on the ballot during the upcoming November 4th U.S. Presidential elections.


    Christian Family Coalition issued the following statement:

    "Governor Crist is to be commended for putting Florida's families first in his very public support for the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment. This referendum simply allows the people of Florida to amend our State Constitution to reflect current Florida law which already defines and protects marriage as one man and one woman


    http://www.fearnotlaw.com/articles/article991.html

    BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA THAT:

    A new section for Article I is hereby created to add the following:

    Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.

    The ballot title for the proposed initiative is:

    Florida Marriage Protection Amendment.

    The proposed summary to be placed on the ballot for this amendment reads:

    This amendment protects marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife and provides that no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.




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    Dec 14, 2012 1:29 AM GMT
    http://gofbw.com/news.asp?ID=6266

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    To be more precise about it, the homosexual lobby is pressing for civil rights on basis sexual preference or sexual orientation, they would say. Do you support that agenda?

    No, it’s not an agenda item that I support.

    Do you support repealing the ban on homosexual adoption?

    No.

    Why?

    I think it’s appropriate to have parents adopt from a traditional family for children.

    Do you support the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment?

    In fact, I’ve signed the petition for it.


    http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/sc05-1563/05-1563inifla4marriage.pdf
    Pursuant to Fla. Stat. 16.061, Attorney General Charles J. Crist, Jr., has
    petitioned this Court for an advisory opinion regarding whether the text of the
    Amendment complies with Article XI, § 3 of the Florida Constitution and whether
    the ballot title and summary comply with Fla. Stat. § 101.161.
    SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT
    The singular purpose of Proponent’s Amendment is the protection and
    preservation of marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman as husband
    and wife.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1008/29/sotu.01.html
    STATE OF THE UNION WITH CANDY CROWLEY

    Interview With HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan; Interviews With Charlie Crist, Kendrick Meek

    Aired August 29, 2010 - 09:00 ET

    HENRY: But governor, doesn't it sounds like you having it both ways by saying live and let live, but I also support a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. If it's live and let live, why would you ban same-sex marriage?

    CRIST: Well, everything is in a matter of degree, Ed, and when it becomes to the institution of marriage, I believe that it is between a man and a woman, it's just how I feel.


    Oooops. Looks like he made the same "mistake" for five years in a row. That's some mistake.
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    Dec 14, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    Very nice-seeming guys can stab you in the back. How do you think they got so close to your back?

    http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/04/State/Crist_popular_on_foe_.shtml

    A gushing crowd gathered to see Republican gubernatorial candidate Charlie Crist at Miami's Versailles restaurant on Thursday. Members of the local Christian Coalition chapter presented him with a petition calling for a state constitutional amendment to ban gay marriages and civil unions.

    Crist cheerfully signed. His office released petitions for the ballot initiative to the state Supreme Court for review on the same day.

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    Dec 14, 2012 4:19 PM GMT
    As I said above, he's been against gay rights and gay marriage. Will he flip-flop like he has political parties? Perhaps, but he screwed us once, screw us twice and we're idiots. I'm not an idiot - are you?
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    Dec 14, 2012 5:20 PM GMT
    Signing for a constitutional amendment violating our human rights goes beyond mere mistake, beyond so-called flip flip, all the way to treasonous collaborator.

    May he find redemption in the privacy of his own soul, not at the expense of Gay Pride.
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:08 AM GMT
    NJDewd saidI dont know what to expect next in the Sunshine State! Buddy reminds me of Buddy MacKay who of course lost to Jeb Bush in the general election for Florida governor in Nov. 1998. That loss affected the presidential election of 2000 - in that per Florida law if MacKay had won the winning party of the previous gubernatorial election get stop billing on the following presidential ballot - so if Gore was listed first, there would be no butterfly ballot, no miscast votes for Nader etc! True! And ironically Buddy MacKay did become governor without ever running again when Gov. Lawton Chiles, who Buddy served with as Lt Gov. (and was term-limited and couldnt run again in that Nov. 1998 race) died unexpectedly on Dec. 12, 1998 and MacKay served the 23 remaining days of Chiles' term until Jeb Bush was sworn in On Jan. 5, 1999.


    You are correct regarding your history, however, Buddy Dyer and Buddy MacKay are as different as night and day.

    I was a delegate to the 1996 Florida Democratic Party Convention in Tampa where MacKay was basically introduced to us as the leading candidate. I went as an uncommitted delegate, but halfway through MacKay's speech to the delegates, I thought...."I have had enough of this guy--he is not electable." Someone had given me a MacKay button to wear. I took it off my jacket, stuck it in my pocket and sought out a representative from Bob Butterworth's campaign (Broward County native--remember him, ART_DECO?) and told them, "MacKay is a joke. I'm your guy now!!"

    Buddy Dyer is much more of a progressive than MacKay ever was, but the latest out of Orlando is Dyer might be tapped for a position in the Obama Administration in January. No one is sure of the job, but the scuttlebutt started a couple of days ago.

    Like I said, Dyer does not have the statewide recognition other candidates like Crist and Sink do and the Washington gig may be his only out. Dyer was in the State Senate for a couple of terms, so back to Tallahassee could be an option. A run for Congress in 2014 would be an option, however, he lives in the 8th District and it is a given that Val Demings will run again to knock off Toxic Republican Daniel Webster.