Death of Mandela

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    Dec 09, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
    It looks like Nelson Mandela, South Africa's first black president, will die in a Pretoria military hospital.

    What are your thoughts?
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 09, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    That's sad to hear. He lived and a long and incredible life. He's a testament to strength and perseverance, but also a voice of peace.
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    Dec 09, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    He is still alive and kicking as far as we know.
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    Dec 10, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidHe is still alive and kicking as far as we know.

    Yes, what are the OP's sources for this claim? I'm not finding anything in news sources except his being hospitalized for tests.
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    Dec 10, 2012 4:51 AM GMT
    If he does die. Let's hope he can do one more thing for humanity and take Hugo Chaves with him.
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    Dec 10, 2012 4:54 AM GMT
    if its not on cnn or huff post then i wouldn't take it seriously..He is just going in for checkups.
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    Dec 10, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidNot much into Catholic stuff, but I hope the Vatican eventually elevates him to sainthood.
    he's Anglican, not Catholic.
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    Dec 10, 2012 5:16 AM GMT
    BBC is reporting he is in a hospital for reasons unknown but the government states he is doing well.
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    Dec 10, 2012 5:26 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    You don't have to be Catholic to become a saint.
    not 2 clog up this thread, but no other denomination's gna "present one of its own to the Catholic Church for the scrutiny that is a part of the canonization process. To do so would be to acknowledge an authority present in the Catholic Church that other Christian denominations deny."

    http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/can-the-church-recognize-non-catholics-as-saints
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    Dec 10, 2012 5:42 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said

    More to the point of whether they choose to do so (I don't care... Catholicism is a joke), I'm just saying that Mandela is worthy of such a mantle.


    Too right YN2000 - he is very saintly in comparison to his neighbouring 'freedom fighters' who turned out to be evil dictators - Mugabe case in point!
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    Dec 10, 2012 5:43 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    More to the point of whether they choose to do so (I don't care... Catholicism is a joke), I'm just saying that Mandela is worthy of such a mantle.


    I think he is talking about the canonization process. There are rules although in the recent past they have not always been followed. Part of the process is for representatives of the figure in question known as the Actor Causae to present a case to the Vatican. What he means is another Christian denomination may not be jumping to do this because they do not recognize the Vatican as being in high authority within the Christian umbrella.

    Mandela has more than earned high standing. I don't think he is near death yet either. This seems to be just nasty internet rumor.
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    Dec 10, 2012 5:49 AM GMT
    the canonization process defined:
    http://www.catholic-pages.com/saints/process.asp
    note: Saint Kateri Tekakwitha was most certainly Catholic. she also has a huge following in AZ.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Kateri_Tekakwitha
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    Dec 10, 2012 5:57 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    I think I'm familiar with the process (not 100% though)...but that's the presentation of 3 miracles, right? One of the Canadian saints is a native woman who certainly wasn't Catholic, so I don't know how non-Catholics get considered, but it appears they do. Anyway, the guy has done greater works than I bet a lot of other actual saints have....wonder if anyone ever tried to calculate the suffering he averted or how many people are alive today because of him.


    I don't even pretend to understand the process. Even non-Christians have been given the mantle of a saint so I guess in some ways sainthood has become more of a political or PR tool. This is the same organization that once upon a time granted promised entry into heaven if you could pay Rome enough money... but enough of that...

    Best wishes to Nelson Mandela in recovery for whatever ails him.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Dec 10, 2012 9:13 AM GMT
    his roots are Obamas flower
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    Dec 07, 2013 9:10 PM GMT
    Mark Levin calls this the Era of the Crazy Bastards.

    The howling at the moon over man-made global warming justifies that designation.

    Another symptom of this time is that one must fawn over a black Marxist/terrorist or risk being called a racist.

    Mandela may be one of the better leaders in post-colonial Africa, but that isn't saying a lot.

    Evidence suggests that the average black person was better off under colonialism, and that the average South African was better off under apartheid.

    Fawn over the jerk-liar-Marxist-jihadist in the White House or some RJ turd-hurler will call you a racist.

    As if to put the icing on the nut cake, a mastermind smears the Catholic Church as he declares that it should make the Marxist/terrorist Mandela a saint.

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  • aax_aax_aax

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    Dec 07, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
    this is why nelson mandela was a great guy, whatever the person above me thinks:
    http://thinkprogress.org/home/2013/12/06/3030781/nelson-mandela-believed-people-wont-talk/
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    Dec 07, 2013 10:08 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    aax_aax_aax saidthis is why nelson mandela was a great guy, whatever the person above me thinks:
    http://thinkprogress.org/home/2013/12/06/3030781/nelson-mandela-believed-people-wont-talk/

    Don't associate me with that psychopath above me, please. kthx


    sorry
    sorry
    and few more times sorry ;)
  • creature

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    Dec 07, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
    jockfever believes the average black was better off under colonialism?

    Thank you, jockfever. It's nice to know where you're coming from whenever we read your critiques of President Obama's administration.
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    Dec 07, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    jockfever saidEvidence suggests that the average black person was better off under colonialism, and that the average South African was better off under apartheid.

    Wow, just when I thought you couldn't be any more disgusting. Just wow.


    Oopsie, jockiefever has blown his cover. Busted. icon_lol.gif
  • creature

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    Dec 07, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    creature saidjockfever believes the average black was better off under colonialism?

    Thank you, jockfever. It's nice to know where you're coming from whenever we read your critiques of President Obama's administration.

    Does it surprise you, creature? Even a little?


    I actually didn't think he would go that far. Honestly. I know that jockfever is a birther. So even though that tinges him with some race issues, I didn't think he would go so far as to say colonialism was better for blacks in Africa, and so was apartheid for black South Africans.
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    Dec 07, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    @ creature and Aristo: Can you imagine what the US would be like under jockiefever?
  • creature

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    Dec 07, 2013 10:27 PM GMT
    meninlove said @ creature and Aristo: Can you imagine what the US would be like under jockiefever?


    Yes, we would get to be under a tyranny, the kind jockfever claims he's against.

    I sure wish jockfever would get a man so we don't have to babysit him on the forum.
  • creature

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    Dec 07, 2013 11:34 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    creature said
    meninlove said @ creature and Aristo: Can you imagine what the US would be like under jockiefever?


    Yes, we would get to be under a tyranny, the kind jockfever claims he's against.

    I sure wish jockfever would get a man so we don't have to babysit him on the forum.

    He never will; he's said he's celibate. Because his compassionate, caring religion forbids him from ever establishing a loving relationship with another man.


    It makes you wonder why is he here. Wouldn't his religion forbid him to be here. Or does he sign on to RealJock with shame.
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    Dec 08, 2013 1:00 AM GMT
    jockfever said

    As if to put the icing on the nut cake, a mastermind smears the Catholic Church as he declares that it should make the Marxist/terrorist Mandela a saint.



    What evidence do you have he was a terrorist? Genuinely confused.
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    Dec 08, 2013 4:51 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Ex_Mil8 saidHe is still alive and kicking as far as we know.

    Yes, what are the OP's sources for this claim? I'm not finding anything in news sources except his being hospitalized for tests.


    And now he is dead.