I think I made a big mistake joining the Weightloss Challenge

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    Sep 13, 2008 5:25 PM GMT
    Now that it's here, the discipline needed is not something I think I can pull off.
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    Sep 13, 2008 6:05 PM GMT
    Rather than see it as going from pre-Challenge eating habits to Challenge eating plan, NoName, you might want to take the mindset that you are going to transition into this new style of eating.

    Don't beat yourself up as a failure if you dont meet all the goals the first week. But rather start keeping your records and see how you do. With your records, you can see where you need to change. Then more gently transition into adjusting your eating habits to reach the goals set by the program.

    It has taken me a whole year to haphazardly make my transition in eating following the guidelines from my personal trainer. But better to take a year and make progress, than to throw up my hands first thing, call it quits, and never make any progress at all.
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    Sep 14, 2008 6:58 AM GMT
    Well said..
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    Sep 14, 2008 4:49 PM GMT
    Caslon6000 saidRather than see it as going from pre-Challenge eating habits to Challenge eating plan, NoName, you might want to take the mindset that you are going to transition into this new style of eating.

    Don't beat yourself up as a failure if you dont meet all the goals the first week. But rather start keeping your records and see how you do. With your records, you can see where you need to change. Then more gently transition into adjusting your eating habits to reach the goals set by the program.

    It has taken me a whole year to haphazardly make my transition in eating following the guidelines from my personal trainer. But better to take a year and make progress, than to throw up my hands first thing, call it quits, and never make any progress at all.


    I know you're right. I just planned for surgery on Friday and am feeling rather down about it.
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    Sep 14, 2008 4:54 PM GMT
    Dennis here from Nu4You.

    Caslon6000 was right on. This is definitely a lifestyle changing plan and that it takes time and patience. We are very aware at how difficult it is to change old habits that's why we believe in slow changes, one step at a time with incremental goal and people there like coaches and other RealJock members to help!

    It's definitely a challenge, and like most things if you work at it and succeed in even small changes you will have an incredible sense of accomplishment.

    Don't let things overwhelm you. Start with small changes and goals as you incorporate each into your life it will feel natural and something and make you feel better all around.

    We really are excited by everyone's desire to change but work with us to make it right for you.

    It took me over 6 months to lose my 60 lbs with Manuel. He was patient and helped me overcome my barriers a little at a time. Nu4You is set up to do the same thing. We are in a challenge, but keep it real for yourself. That's what Nu4You is all about.
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    Sep 26, 2008 11:01 PM GMT
    I just saw this Post.
    I know this is really hard and has been a great challenge to me.
    I think the hardest thing is changing the things you eat.
    I have noticed thought with will power and help from all those on RealJock supporting us that we can do this.
    I have now lost 8lbs and struggle every day to make things work out for me to keep going. I do hope that I can be a help to this team with such great goals.
    I am not in it for the prize I am in it for the experience.
  • SkyMiles

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    Sep 26, 2008 11:07 PM GMT
    One of the best ways to look at that I've heard is -- you didn't gain all that weight at once and you can't lose it all at once.

    It's a long-term deal, eat a little less, more whole food less processed, excersize a little more, and be patient! Don't starve, don't run every day for two weeks until you're sick of it then give it up altogether. ;)
  • Aquanerd

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    Sep 26, 2008 11:13 PM GMT
    NoNameGuy saidNow that it's here, the discipline needed is not something I think I can pull off.


    Dude,
    Stop thinking of this challenge as a limited time thing. Hey, there is a competition, but just like the Show, "The Biggest Loser," the only contestants that really lose are the one that give up. You have taken a huge step in the right direction by signing up for the challenge. But remember, your challenges do not end with this Contest. Use this competition to set yourself up for the rest of your life. Those of us that got to the point where we had a weight issue, didn't get there over night, and it wont be corrected overnight either.

    Most of the guys in the contest are not going to be done with their need to lose weight at the end of the competition. Use this as a learning tool. See what works for you and what doesn't. Even when you think your not going to be able to stick it out, the only way that happens is if you quit. A Forum Post is not the place to go into detail, but if your interested, send my an note, use the built in resource network you have here on this site. You have a bunch of guys here that are on your side in your battle.

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    Mike
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    Sep 26, 2008 11:19 PM GMT
    Cheer up! we support you! I support you and I believe in you! Its been a long ride for me too. its been about 1.5 years and still feel like I have lots of work to do. I might have lost the weight but im not a muscular dude like the majority of men here!

    Do you play any sports? something that will keep your heart rate going? I owe a lot of my weight loss to my daily commute bike rides!
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    Sep 26, 2008 11:27 PM GMT
    You mentioned your having surgery on Friday... What kind of surgery are you going to be having? As others mentioned, don't beat yourself up! Just keep plugging away, and I think that even you will be surprised at the progress you end up making.....
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    Sep 26, 2008 11:36 PM GMT
    WhoMe76 saidI just saw this Post.
    I know this is really hard and has been a great challenge to me.
    I think the hardest thing is changing the things you eat.
    I have noticed thought with will power and help from all those on RealJock supporting us that we can do this.
    I have now lost 8lbs and struggle every day to make things work out for me to keep going. I do hope that I can be a help to this team with such great goals.
    I am not in it for the prize I am in it for the experience.
    Good for you!!! And a good attitude also. I know you can continue to be successful and you'll do well. One thing that I found in changing my eating habits was that I adjusted to what I decided to eat, for example, I never ate a lot of fruit, now I damn near by the produce department everytime I go shopping! Hmmm... fruit and coming out...maybe there more correlation here than I thought, but anyway, keep up the hard work. We're behind all you guys, this is a great challenge and we know you can all do it!!!!! Go guys!
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    Sep 26, 2008 11:55 PM GMT
    You can do it, maybe not at first, but failure should be counted just as beneficial as success, you will learn from when you don't achieve your goal, if you're smart you will. Always capitalize on everything. If it doesn't work try and figure out why it didn't and move forward.

    It's just as much about learning as it is about achieving the loss in my opinion, these are things we are trying to teach ourselves for the duration, not just the quickie.

    And if you need support it's always there, send emails, I certainly don't mind getting an email looking for support. It's a contest but from what I get from everyone else we are in it together so let's make it work.

    Good luck!!

    PS. The mere fact you reached out and took a proactive step in this direction should mean this was not a mistake, you took the first step so take some more.
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    Sep 27, 2008 12:24 AM GMT
    This is a life changing experience for all of those who are participating in this challenge. It would be calleda challenge if it were easy. Keep your head up and stick to your guns. Determination will continue to grow as you see your body progress! GOOD LUCK!
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    Sep 27, 2008 12:49 AM GMT
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    How easy did you think it would be? It takes a lot to survive in this world , honey and as you are experiencing, having a healthy lifestyle is not easy. It takes a lot of will power and discipline. It gets easier as you go along, but it wasn't an easy start for any of us: being responsible,.watching what we eat, not drinking much, not smoking, and not partying much! Being unhealthy is very alluring, ok....I said it, these others won't qualify that! But, I do it because I love that sound of breathlessness men get when I get naked. Why do you do it and remember your motivations when times get tough!
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    Sep 27, 2008 7:34 PM GMT
    WhoMe76 saidI just saw this Post.
    I know this is really hard and has been a great challenge to me.
    I think the hardest thing is changing the things you eat.
    I have noticed thought with will power and help from all those on RealJock supporting us that we can do this.
    I have now lost 8lbs and struggle every day to make things work out for me to keep going. I do hope that I can be a help to this team with such great goals.
    I am not in it for the prize I am in it for the experience.


    Thanks, but I have decided to drop out. It's just not working for me.
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    Sep 27, 2008 7:38 PM GMT
    sounds typical for noname guy formerly chasersprize. if anything is slightly hard he quits and then blames the world. Noname grow a pair and start fighting. If you act like a victim you will always be a victim. either do shit to improve your life, or stop whining.
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    Sep 27, 2008 8:02 PM GMT
    chungo44 saidsounds typical for noname guy formerly chasersprize. if anything is slightly hard he quits and then blames the world. Noname grow a pair and start fighting. If you act like a victim you will always be a victim. either do shit to improve your life, or stop whining.


    God damn man your so right, the whining has to go. To this standing date i have lost 145 pounds, and now im progressively putting on a nice amount of muscle tone. And using the word easy is not a way to describe this journey.Its something you just grind though and get it done, that's if you REALLY want it. Stop the crying and just get it done. When its over you will be extremely happy with your self.
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    Sep 27, 2008 8:12 PM GMT
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    Do not drop out. It is not about a contest but learning how to change something you think you can not live without today may mean NOTHING to you in 6 months , man you can DO this. I do not see how the discipline part is so hard ? Whats the problem ? Cravings for food ? I saw you checked my profile today before, I lost weight without all that crazy sport plan I am doing as well just by not gulping down anything that could not move up a tree in 5 seconds....but from nothing ..comes nothing :/
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    Sep 27, 2008 8:17 PM GMT
    NoName, I'm sorry to hear that. I wonder, why drop out rather than stay in, do the best you're able, and then what happens, happens? I can't imagine you'd lose more weight dropping out than staying in, even if you don't "win" staying in. As someone else pointed out, the only losers are the ones who give up. Or, another quote I heard recently and liked, by Mary Pickford:

    “If you have made mistakes, there is always another chance for you. You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down.”

    I've known you as your online persona here on RealJock for a while now, maybe even a few years, and consistently it seems you beat yourself up for your lack of motivation, and then, confused for where to find it, look for it externally (posting baiting threads implicitly asking for validation or criticism or help, but never outright) or then just get frustrated and dejected and give up or lash out.

    It seems that you must suffer, given how long you've been on here and how so many of your posts have this sense of despair and resignation to them. If you really were resigned, you'd leave the site and just decide to keep your body the way it is, so you're obviously not truly resigned and obviously want more for yourself.

    In the past, when I wanted to change or start doing something new, I'd just approach it from the brute-force straightforward perspective: I'd just decide to get up every day and work out at 6am, or something. And invariably it would fail and I would feel dejected.

    Now, I think of my job as just to cultivate the willingness. Like right now I'm trying to start a regular morning yoga practice, and I know if I just muscle my way out of bed every day at 5:45 and walk down to the studio and do it, that'll last for a week, then the willingness will be gone and that will be it.

    Nurturing that willingness is just as big a part of change as actually realizing the change itself, I think. So when I moved to Seattle I went ahead and let myself eat crap -- twizzlers every day! Cake with every dinner! -- and didn't exercise for a month while I got my bearings, established my kitchen, and settled in.

    And you know what? I feel sick all the time, like I have a mild flu. I just feel like shit. So now I am desperately craving real, nourishing food and good exercise. If I'd gotten here and just forced myself to find a gym instantly and eat right instantly, I'd have felt deprived, and wouldn't have that experience of feeling like crap from *not* exercising and eating right, and together those would have destroyed the willingness within a week and I'd be floundering.

    Maybe it would be useful to think about it that way? Think about your willingness, and never try to force yourself to do more than you're really willing. But at the same time, also work to build more willingness. If being overweight makes you feel bad, and you often try to distract yourself from that with external stimulus like television or food, try refraining from those distractions and really sit with how you feel about yourself. Not to beat yourself up or make yourself more despondent, but just to really experience it.

    If I didn't pay attention to my body, I might not notice how ill I feel now after a month of no exercise and unhealthy food, and then I wouldn't feel the positive motivation to start exercising and eating healthy again! But I'm not beating myself up for it, like, "God, I'm so fat and lazy," it's just how it is, and I want to change that, so now I will.

    Anyway, you really seem to be in continual pain and I feel very bad for you. I'm sorry, and I hope you're able to find your way out.
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    Sep 27, 2008 8:33 PM GMT
    Robert Elias Najemy says:The role of Victim (poor me) is a favorite for many of us. There are so many benefits we can ascertain by playing the role of the victim.

    1. We automatically gain self-worth. Follow this reasoning closely. As a victim, we are the one to whom injustice is being done, thus the others are unjust, incorrect, not okay, and wrong in what they do. Consequently, we are just, okay, good and right. We are worthy and they are not. Many of us who do not have sufficient self-esteem find this as the only way we can establish our self-worth, by being the victims of others’ wrong doings.

    2. As victims, we can play on the others’ pity and guilt. When they are angry with us, we can diminish their rage and aggression by playing the weak, abused person. When we want something from someone, we can play on their guilt by making them believe they are at fault for our unhappiness or our problems.

    3. As victims, we are not responsible for our reality, and thus not to blame if we or our lives are not in good condition. We have an excuse for not being okay or manifesting our potential.

    As a result, we gain what we want from the others by making them feel responsible for our reality, and by making ourselves seem weak, incapable and in need of help.


    If you need to work on discipline, work on earning more disciplinary skill sets but reconsider becoming a quitter.icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 28, 2008 7:27 PM GMT
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    Do not drop out. It is not about a contest but learning how to change something you think you can not live without today may mean NOTHING to you in 6 months , man you can DO this. I do not see how the discipline part is so hard ? Whats the problem ? Cravings for food ? I saw you checked my profile today before, I lost weight without all that crazy sport plan I am doing as well just by not gulping down anything that could not move up a tree in 5 seconds....but from nothing ..comes nothing :/


    I've already sent an email to them. I doubt they're going to let me back in.
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    Sep 29, 2008 1:29 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]NoNameGuy said

    I've already sent an email to them. I doubt they're going to let me back in.[/quote]

    We've all done things we regret, and I'm sure in their business they are used to many people who give up easily. All you can do is 'clean up your messes' and ask to be let back in. I bet they haven't even seen the email.

    This is a tremendous opportunity with an unprecedented amount of support. If this isn't enough to get you going on the right path, what would you need? If there's some other help you need, get it. Dropping out of this isn't going to help anything.

    Remember, it's the journey, and you can't do it all at once.
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    Sep 29, 2008 2:00 AM GMT

    ...........................Quitting?


    NoName, don't be a LOSER. You aren't, but stop acting like one. You can't quit after a friggen week. Do you think anything is easy when you just start it? It's not easy for any of us. Do you think I just roled out of bed with a tight ass and six pack abs?

    Email them back and apologize. I'm sure they'll understand. Afterall, i'm sure they have fitness professionals working on this. They know how hard it is for people like you, they understand what you're feeling. For all you know, they are former fatsos themselves. For all you know, ( and you made a post about it so you should) some of your RealJock pals have struggled with their weight. It takes a lot more than a week of complaining to reach your goals of (being a hottie, yeah, I thought so), get up, dust your fat ass off, and work your fat ass off, k?

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    Sep 29, 2008 2:10 AM GMT
    You can do it. I've had to do it in the past and it was well worth it. Besides looking good think of the overall health benifits.

    My dad had a heart attack last year. It runs in the family we now know.. So i've had to be even more up on what i'm eating and its not bloody easy.
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    Sep 29, 2008 2:16 AM GMT
    Sean_85 said its not bloody easy.


    Yes, it is!
    Or, atleast it can be.
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