Report: U.S. to Lose Superpower Status by 2030

  • coolarmydude

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    Dec 11, 2012 4:51 AM GMT
    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/12/gannett-report-says-america-to-lose-superpower-status-by-2030-121012/

    By Doug Stanglin - USA Today
    Posted : Monday Dec 10, 2012 14:49:21 EST


    A report by the National Intelligence Council predicts that the United States will lose its superpower status by 2030, but that no country — including China — will be a hegemonic power.

    Instead, the report says, power will shift to “networks and coalitions in a multipolar world.”

    The council, which wrote Global Trends 2030, was established in 1979. It supports the U.S. director of National Intelligence and is the intelligence community’s center for long-term strategic analysis.

    The council’s intelligence officers are drawn from government, academia and the private sector.

    “The world of 2030 will be radically transformed from our world today,” the report concludes. “By 2030, no country — whether the U.S., China, or any other large country — will be a hegemonic power.”

    The report also finds that the empowerment of individuals and a diffusion of power among states — and from states — to informal networks will have a “dramatic impact.”

    This development, the report finds, will largely reverse the historic rise of the West since 1750, “restoring Asia’s weight in the global economy and ushering in a new era of ‘democratization’ at the international and domestic level.”

    The report further expects the rapid aging of the world population to continue as well as a growing demand on resources, which might lead to scarcities of food and water.

    Among its assessment, the report looks at plausible worst-case and best-case scenarios over the next two decades.

    In the former category, it sees the risk of interstate conflict increasing and the U.S. “draws inward and globalization stalls.”

    In the best-case scenario, China and the U.S. collaborate on a range of issues, leading to a broader global cooperation.


    Full report from the National Intelligence Council on Global Trends here:
    http://www.dni.gov/index.php/about/organization/national-intelligence-council-global-trends
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    Dec 11, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
    The report predicts that the U.S. "most likely will remain 'first among equals' among the other great powers." But "with the rapid rise of other countries, the 'unipolar moment' is over and Pax Americana—the era of American ascendancy in international politics that began in 1945—is fast winding down."

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/world-2030-u-declines-food-water-may-scarce-162757458--politics.html
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 11, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    This should be seen as a good thing, if we want to practice what we preach in terms of democratic values.

    At any rate, by 2030 the political landscape will be grossly affected by global warming. NYC will be the new Venice, and Canal Street will be an actual canal.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 11, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidThis should be seen as a good thing, if we want to practice what we preach in terms of democratic values.

    At any rate, by 2030 the political landscape will be grossly affected by global warming. NYC will be the new Venice, and Canal Street will be an actual canal.
    I agree with you 100% about practicing what we preach about democratic values. I think that not having a lone superpower would be far healthier and safer for the whole world. As for the global warming thing, you are jumping to conclusions. I doubt that NYC and Boston as well will be largely underwater and I don't think Canal Street in New Orleans will be an actual canal that is providing they maintain and repair the system of levies around both New Orleans and its neighboring suburbs. I think the global warming issue is a little bit blown out of proportion. Too much guesswork and propaganda.
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    Dec 11, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
    Bullshit. Those other fucking countries are crazy. What's gonna happen is everybody will appreciate the peace and stability Smerica has given them all these decades.
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    Dec 11, 2012 5:36 PM GMT
    So, in other words, the prediction is that capitalism wins China and the so-called democratization of the world was nothing more than a method to open new markets. Got it. Thanks for the update.

    Oh, and a special thanx to America for sacrificing its children in times of war. Your check is in the mail.
  • rnch

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    Dec 11, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
    But we (the USA) continues to send millions of dollars out to these (and many other) countries as "foreign aid" when citizens of this country suffer from hunger, sickness and poverty icon_question.gif




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  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 11, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
    Upper_Cdn saidAmerica to lose Superpower status? Will Americans no longer be able to fly? icon_eek.gif


    No it will hopefully mean that the US stops being the world's policeman and start minding its own damned business. It will mean that US imperialism will end and that other countries will be allowed to govern themselves as they see fit.
  • rnch

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    Dec 11, 2012 5:47 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Upper_Cdn saidAmerica to lose Superpower status? Will Americans no longer be able to fly? icon_eek.gif


    No it will hopefully mean that the US stops being the world's policeman and start minding its own damned business. It will mean that US imperialism will end and that other countries will be allowed to govern themselves as they see fit.




    Recent events are making me wonder if a return to a "isolationist" policy of the 1930's might not be all that bad of a policy.



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  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 11, 2012 5:56 PM GMT
    rnch said
    roadbikeRob said
    Upper_Cdn saidAmerica to lose Superpower status? Will Americans no longer be able to fly? icon_eek.gif


    No it will hopefully mean that the US stops being the world's policeman and start minding its own damned business. It will mean that US imperialism will end and that other countries will be allowed to govern themselves as they see fit.




    Recent events are making me wonder if a return to a "isolationist" policy of the 1930's might not be all that bad of a policy.



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    We need to become more isolationist and start focusing on the serious domestic problems facing this country.
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 11, 2012 5:59 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    HottJoe saidThis should be seen as a good thing, if we want to practice what we preach in terms of democratic values.

    At any rate, by 2030 the political landscape will be grossly affected by global warming. NYC will be the new Venice, and Canal Street will be an actual canal.
    I agree with you 100% about practicing what we preach about democratic values. I think that not having a lone superpower would be far healthier and safer for the whole world. As for the global warming thing, you are jumping to conclusions. I doubt that NYC and Boston as well will be largely underwater and I don't think Canal Street in New Orleans will be an actual canal that is providing they maintain and repair the system of levies around both New Orleans and its neighboring suburbs. I think the global warming issue is a little bit blown out of proportion. Too much guesswork and propaganda.


    That may have sounded crazy a few years ago, but things have deteriorated rapidly. If anything, the Russians will be the leading superpower in 2030, by virtue of default, because, as they say in real estate, location, location, location.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 11, 2012 6:03 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    roadbikeRob said
    HottJoe saidThis should be seen as a good thing, if we want to practice what we preach in terms of democratic values.

    At any rate, by 2030 the political landscape will be grossly affected by global warming. NYC will be the new Venice, and Canal Street will be an actual canal.
    I agree with you 100% about practicing what we preach about democratic values. I think that not having a lone superpower would be far healthier and safer for the whole world. As for the global warming thing, you are jumping to conclusions. I doubt that NYC and Boston as well will be largely underwater and I don't think Canal Street in New Orleans will be an actual canal that is providing they maintain and repair the system of levies around both New Orleans and its neighboring suburbs. I think the global warming issue is a little bit blown out of proportion. Too much guesswork and propaganda.


    That may have sounded crazy a few years ago, but things have deteriorated rapidly. If anything, the Russians will be the leading superpower in 2030, by virtue of default, because, as they say in real estate, location, location, location.
    Please keep in mind that a large majority of Russia's land area is largely unihabitable due to cold climates, rocky soils, that pesky permafrost and the tremendous expense of developing modern transportation infrastructure in those large areas of the country.
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    Dec 12, 2012 1:32 AM GMT
    Note to self:


    Change the superbatteries in 2029.