Ibogaine -- The Magic Plant That Could Cure Addiction, Still Banned in the U.S.

  • metta

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    Dec 12, 2012 7:18 PM GMT
    Ibogaine -- The Magic Plant That Could Cure Addiction, Still Banned in the U.S.


    http://www.asylum.com/2010/04/27/we-investigate-ibogaine-iboga-howard-lotsof-addiction-cure/




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  • MikeW

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    Dec 13, 2012 1:55 AM GMT
    US drug policy has never had anything to do with harm reduction. Drug policy is a front for black-market profits for organized crime and its overlap with black ops, international banking and money laundering (not to mention the funding and arming of police forces, etc.).

    You want a peaceful more sane world? Legalize all drugs and take the illicit profit out of their production and sales. Not that they'll ever allow it to happen but this could possibly bring organized crime under actual government control (instead of the other way around).
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    Dec 13, 2012 1:57 AM GMT
    MikeW saidUS drug policy has never had anything to do with harm reduction. Drug policy is a front for black-market profits for organized crime and its overlap with black ops, international banking and money laundering (not to mention the funding and arming of police forces, etc.).

    You want a peaceful more sane world? Legalize all drugs and take the illicit profit out of their production and sales. Not that they'll ever allow it to happen but this could possibly bring organized crime under actual government control (instead of the other way around).


    I agree, so much. Medicine in the U.S. has become an "Industry" and not at all about recovery or care. The U.S. has the worlds best health care..."if you can afford it"
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    Dec 13, 2012 5:58 AM GMT
    MikeW saidUS drug policy has never had anything to do with harm reduction. Drug policy is a front for black-market profits for organized crime and its overlap with black ops, international banking and money laundering (not to mention the funding and arming of police forces, etc.).

    You want a peaceful more sane world? Legalize all drugs and take the illicit profit out of their production and sales. Not that they'll ever allow it to happen but this could possibly bring organized crime under actual government control (instead of the other way around).
    You want a peaceful and more sane world? Overthrow the govt.
  • MikeW

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    Dec 13, 2012 5:18 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    MikeW saidUS drug policy has never had anything to do with harm reduction. Drug policy is a front for black-market profits for organized crime and its overlap with black ops, international banking and money laundering (not to mention the funding and arming of police forces, etc.).

    You want a peaceful more sane world? Legalize all drugs and take the illicit profit out of their production and sales. Not that they'll ever allow it to happen but this could possibly bring organized crime under actual government control (instead of the other way around).
    You want a peaceful and more sane world? Overthrow the govt.

    Government is just a tool for those with real (economic, military) power. One of my mottos: "The best way to thwart a revolution is to lead it." That's why they have the best intelligence and counter-intelligence networks money can buy.

    What's needed is a new economic system. Something completely 'outside the box' of previous thinking. Certainly no 'ism' that currently exists.

    In the mean time, the decentralization of energy production would be the most likely 'best bet' for undermining established wealth. They know this, too. Energy production is where it(power/wealth)'s at for an advanced, technological civilization. This is why they oppose renewable resource development all in all... they haven't found a way to keep it monolithic, centralized and controllable.
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    Dec 14, 2012 4:11 AM GMT
    MikeW said
    paulflexes said
    MikeW saidUS drug policy has never had anything to do with harm reduction. Drug policy is a front for black-market profits for organized crime and its overlap with black ops, international banking and money laundering (not to mention the funding and arming of police forces, etc.).

    You want a peaceful more sane world? Legalize all drugs and take the illicit profit out of their production and sales. Not that they'll ever allow it to happen but this could possibly bring organized crime under actual government control (instead of the other way around).
    You want a peaceful and more sane world? Overthrow the govt.

    Government is just a tool for those with real (economic, military) power. One of my mottos: "The best way to thwart a revolution is to lead it." That's why they have the best intelligence and counter-intelligence networks money can buy.

    What's needed is a new economic system. Something completely 'outside the box' of previous thinking. Certainly no 'ism' that currently exists.

    In the mean time, the decentralization of energy production would be the most likely 'best bet' for undermining established wealth. They know this, too. Energy production is where it(power/wealth)'s at for an advanced, technological civilization. This is why they oppose renewable resource development all in all... they haven't found a way to keep it monolithic, centralized and controllable.
    The first five words of your post couldn't have been more correct if you'd tried to make it so. icon_wink.gif