Just Curious About Obama

  • scothman

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    Sep 14, 2008 6:39 PM GMT
    So all I am hearing on here are attacks on Palin and McCain. I am just curious as to why everyone is voting for Obama. I am registered as declined to state so I am not picking sides here, I am simply curious as to why you guys would vote for Obama.

    Oh, and guys, could we please not rip each other apart in here. It tends to always happen so lets see if just this once, we can have a mature, intelligent conversational thread. Thanks!
  • GQjock

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    Sep 14, 2008 8:11 PM GMT
    Because somebody was told when they took office that the most important thing that they needed to do was watch Osama Bin Laden

    and that certain someone never continued with the counter terrorism task force that was in place during the previous administration

    then certain someone was warned during a Presidential briefing that said Bin Laden was determined to strike in the US
    that certain someone did nothing

    Then the party that that certain someone belongs to had control of the House and Senate (in which a certain Presidential Candidate was in office for 23 years)
    voted in lock step with that certain someone in the White House
    and spent us into the worst deficit we have ever had in the history of the United States

    Then to make matters worse this certain someone doctored documents and lied us into a war that never needed to be fought
    killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and thousands of our military
    a war that a "certain" Presidential candidate backed all the way

    and said "Maverick" candidate went and changed his stance on everything he once stood for *Stance against torture
    *Immigration
    *Campaign Finance reform
    *Off Shore drilling

    and then there's the little thing about the Supreme Court
    It seems in this country we have a little rule that says the sitting President gets to nominate Supreme Court Justices
    ... and there's a bit a of a death watch for at least 3 of them going on right now

    I think that should cover it
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    Sep 14, 2008 8:12 PM GMT
    I like his platform over McCain's on nearly every issue.
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    Sep 14, 2008 11:29 PM GMT
    He is smart. He thinks things through a lot. This was is apparent in many of his legislative moves. He has been noted as even listening to input from opponents in legislative measures:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtml

    He sees the constitution and civil rights and liberties as important having taught constitutional law for 12 years and acting as a civil rights attorney I don't think these are trivial matters for him. He has stood up for the rights and welfare of others in many ways as a community organizer and a civil rights attorney:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/16/politics/main3720763.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_3720763As an attorney, he was on the team that successfully sued the state of Illinois for failing to implement a federal voter-registration law. Obama also worked on case of a whistle-blower who lost her job after exposing waste and corruption in a medical research project. The whistle-blower ended up with a $5 million settlement.

    My impression due to my research into the above is that I could write him as a citizen about my concerns about our country and he would actually care (if such a letter did actually get to him). I think he is genuine.

    I think he understands the world and has been interested in world affairs since his first degree in political science with a specialization in international relations. His experience and diplomatic demeanor would help us improve our relations with the rest of the world:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama#CommitteesObama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006. In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama has made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa.

    Also
    http://www.obamapedia.org/page/Does+Barack+Obama+have+enough+experience+to+be+president%3FObama service on the Foreign Relations committee has placed him in an unique position in that he is the Chair of the Subcommittee on European Relations and serves on the Subcommittees on African Affairs; East Asia and Pacific Affairs; and International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs, and International Environmental Protection. This cross-section of subcommittees places Obama in a unique position of having knowledge about Asian, African and European issues. The only other member of the Foreign Relations committee who is running for President is Democrat Joseph Biden who is Chairman of the full Foreign Relations Committee yet unlike Obama he does not serve on any of the other foreign policy committees and his experience is limited to foreign policy issues covered by the Foreign Relations Committee.

    Also world polls indicate that he would be well received by other countries.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=worldIn 17 of the 22 nations, people expect relations between the US and the rest of the world to improve if Senator Obama wins.

    I think he understands that for the nation to be lifted up out of the trough it is in, it has to happen from the base of society up as reflected in his tax strategies among other things. That is give a bigger tax break for the majority of people and ask more from the upper wealthy class.

    He has the ability to inspire people which again could be good for the "psyche" and mood of the nation.

    As far as all the gay rights stuff, I think it is just a part of the overall emphasis he has on personal civil liberty and his fundamental belief that it is the core of what makes America the land of the free.

    I feel Obama represents a new generation of Americans that see us as needing to "modernize" in many ways. I have never studied so much about someone in any of the elections I have voted in as this year. I feel like if he is not elected it will be a great opportunity missed. I have a gut feeling we are at a nexus of change and he needs to be there. I could probably easily write up 10 to 20 pages of things/citations I like about him in the articles I have been reading online.
  • MusicMan87

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    Sep 14, 2008 11:55 PM GMT
    I feel that Obama has at least, if not anything else, a more personable demeanor and can hold himself and what he says in a more professional, respectful way than Senator McCain and Palin have in the past.

    As for issues, from what I've heard, it seems that the LGBTQ community is so far from McCain's mind, that he would prefer things to stay the way they are, banning gay marriage, and keeping gays from having partner rights. Obama, on the other hand, does not believe in gay marriage, but understands the constitution and believes that LGBT should have equal rights to everyone else in the eyes of the law. So, basically it sounds like he doesn't want to call it marriage, but give couples the rights that married couples enjoy (hospital visitation, partner benefits, being able to claim your spouse on your insurance and healthcare)

    It seems both candidates have the same general idea of moving our energy plan to more renewable, independent energy sources, however it seems Obama has a better strategy, and more assertive timeline that our country needs to get its butt in gear.

    Like I mentioned before, Obama is very well spoken and professional in interviews and speeches. His experience as a professor of law, having graduated from Harvard, and his time in the Senate has cultivated his speaking, interview, and diplomatic skills, which, needless to say, was very lacking in the past administration. I can barely watch Bush speak without laughing, he just looks ridiculous. I feel like Obama knows the issues and can make a difference here in our own country, but also our relations abroad with other countries. As you will know if you ask anyone from another country, America isn't always looked upon kindly.

    In conclusion, I would be very disappointed with America if we went with the "MILF" and the ex-soldier just because people think they're more down-to-earth or something, or they're more relatable. I hope people truly do some unbiased research into each candidate (which I still need to do) and choose based on the candidates platform and ideals, and not who's popular, or who they saw on the news.
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    Sep 15, 2008 12:06 AM GMT
    Obama. The Hidden Muslim.............icon_eek.gif
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    Sep 15, 2008 12:11 AM GMT
    Gay Rights

    Opposes CA Prop. 8, one-man-one-woman marriage. (Jul 200icon_cool.gif
    Being gay or lesbian is not a choice. (Nov 2007)
    Decisions about marriage should be left to the states. (Oct 2007)
    Homosexuality no more immoral than heterosexuality. (Oct 2007)
    Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. (Sep 2007)
    Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands? (Aug 2007)
    We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions. (Aug 2007)
    Legal rights for gays are conferred by state, not by church. (Aug 2007)
    Disentangle gay rights from the word "marriage". (Aug 2007)
    Gay marriage is less important that equal gay rights. (Aug 2007)
    Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Aug 2007)
    Let each denominations decide on recognizing gay marriage. (Jul 2007)
    Pass ENDA and expand hate crime legislation. (Mar 2007)
    Opposed 1996 Illinois DOMA bill. (Mar 2007)
    Supports health benefits for gay civil partners. (Oct 2006)
    Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
    Marriage not a human right; non-discrimination is. (Oct 2004)
    Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 199icon_cool.gif

    Check out his other stands on equally important issues:

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm
  • DCEric

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    Sep 15, 2008 12:11 AM GMT
    Because if McCain wins... my partner will likely be deported.
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    Sep 15, 2008 12:12 AM GMT
    Pattison saidObama. The Hidden Muslim.............icon_eek.gif


    Pattison: The Blatant Idiot.
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    Sep 15, 2008 12:50 AM GMT
    whu do i like obama...

    POLICIES:

    i like that he has a plan to make healthcare affordable for all, pretty much universal

    i like that obama is pro choice

    i like that obama wants to make a college education more afordable to all through people making a committment to service

    i like his tax plan and the fact that it will reduce taxes for the majority of americans

    i like that obama is open to exploring alternative energy while still wanting to protect the environment

    i like that obama has a vp that should anything happen to him, his vp will be able to step in and with his experience (this includes his foreign policy experience) he can step in and be president one day

    I like the fact that obama is not ready to take away rights from gay people




    PERSONAL:

    i like that obama was in the top of his classes for undergrad and law

    i like that obama inspires hope (something i feel has been lost in this country)

    i like that obama represents real family values ( has never cheated on his wife, that we know of and loves his daughters)

    i love that obama worked hard through life to move from a single family home to the top of politics

    i love that other countries love him and i believe that he will help to restore respect for america across the global spectrum

  • Sep 15, 2008 1:13 AM GMT
    Pattison saidObama. The Hidden Muslim.............icon_eek.gif

    what an ass.... unsubstantiated garbage
  • coolarmydude

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    Sep 15, 2008 1:54 AM GMT
    There are so many reasons...

    To name a few...

    He was right about opposing the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion...

    He would actually move us closer to equality...

    His policies would touch more on equity...

    He prefers substance over rhetoric...

    We certainly don't need a Republican after the Bush Administration...

    He really fights for the poor and working American, ever since being a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER...

    His temperment is the quality America needs in a time of global uncertainty...

    His temperment is the quality the world needs in a time of American uncertainty...

    He is a breath of fresh air that not only the Democratic Party needs, but all of America needs...

    I need someone like Barack Obama.
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    Sep 17, 2008 8:54 PM GMT
    how many whacks over the head, kicks in the arse and punches in the gut does it take to make the american people understand that the republican/corporate machine has repeatedly fucked them over and will continue to do so if they keep putting these fascists in office icon_confused.gif

    sorry no disrespect to my american mates but i just dont get it

    ----from a foreigner looking in


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    Sep 17, 2008 8:56 PM GMT
    You're addressing a bunch of people (Americans), a bunch of whom still believe that Saddam Hussein plotted the 9/11 attacks and that he had WMDs.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 17, 2008 9:00 PM GMT
    Why should people vote for Obama? Hmmmm...lemme think a sec...I'm thinking....I'm thinking...Hmmmmm...surely I can think of SOMEthing?....ummm....ummmm...NOPE, can't think of any thing. Sorry.

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    Sep 17, 2008 9:02 PM GMT
    OK, you need to take a valium. You're hysterical. Calm down. Try to let some rational thinking take over. You're behaving just like a woman. icon_biggrin.gif
  • speedo

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    Sep 17, 2008 9:11 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Britishbro said[/cite]how many whacks over the head, kicks in the arse and punches in the gut does it take to make the american people understand that the republican/corporate machine has repeatedly fucked them over and will continue to do so if they keep putting these fascists in office icon_confused.gif

    sorry no disrespect to my american mates but i just dont get it

    ----from a foreigner looking in


    u re talking about people that if they go to a hospital and if their social security number in not 'right' get a kick in the ... and still want to spent billions of dollars to make wars all around the world. when will u people try to claim what ur democracy must offer u? your economy is collapsing, thousands of american citizens left homeless by Catrina and still your voting criteria is what the candidates think about terrorism. What about Kyoto ? what about the environtment? the only nation in the world that feel that terror is US americans none else, you pay too much, you work too much you get nothing just fear!
    btw i think best of american people but everyone is surprised about the tollerance you show!!!icon_razz.gif
  • Barricade

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    Sep 17, 2008 9:15 PM GMT
    Plus, Obama will do a better job repairing foreign relations than McCain ever could.
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    Sep 17, 2008 10:50 PM GMT
    The first reason why I'm voting for Obama is from purely selfish motives. I want health care. I was laid off June 30th and couldn't afford COBRA, which would have been 1/3 of my rent! I could no longer afford a prescription that cost me $80 a month with my health insurance. I recently got sick but couldn't go to the doctor. I am praying the Democrats will be able to create affordable or universal health care. My boyfriend lost his job and is self-employed; he doesn't have insurance either.

    I've also worked in the field of adult education and it's an important issue to me. Obama seems more concerned with providing quality education to all Americans than McCain.

    Equality for LGBT citizens is also near the top of my list. I was very happy that we were mentioned positively during the DNC, especially by Kennedy.

    Also, I would much rather have Michelle Obama as a first lady.

    There are many other reasons, but health care, education, and equality are the top three for me.
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    Sep 17, 2008 11:00 PM GMT
    scothman saidSo all I am hearing on here are attacks on Palin and McCain. I am just curious as to why everyone is voting for Obama. I am registered as declined to state so I am not picking sides here, I am simply curious as to why you guys would vote for Obama.

    Oh, and guys, could we please not rip each other apart in here. It tends to always happen so lets see if just this once, we can have a mature, intelligent conversational thread. Thanks!


    Because I am ready for a change, and republicans have been in office for 8 yrs and have not been able to acheive anything good. Bush/Republicans have brought us down, Also McCain has been next to bush!

    What makes you think he's gonna be different!

    Thank you Scothman icon_biggrin.gif!

    CHANGE IS MY REASON!

    Palin- what makes her a super mom first off?

    Right now McCain and Palin concern is to win all the woman! because they know they are hurting.