Karl Rove: "McCain's Ads Have Gone Too Far!"

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    Sep 14, 2008 9:29 PM GMT

    When Karl Rove is saying your political ads have gone too far, you know you must be doing something dishonest.

    The former Bush chief strategist, appearing on Fox News Sunday, said that John McCain had stretched the truth in his recent round of attacks against Barack Obama, in the process opening up the Arizonan to a round of effective counter-attacks.

    "McCain has gone in his ads one step too far, and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the 100-percent-truth test," said Rove. "Both campaigns ought to be careful about... there ought to be an adult who says: 'Do we really need to go that far in this ad? Don't we make our point and get broader acceptance and deny the opposition an opportunity to attack us if we don't include that one little last tweak in the ad?'"

    McCain has received a heaping dose of criticism late this week for launching a series of advertisements that could be categorized as dishonest if not downright lies. The Obama camp, in a memo to reporters Sunday morning -- entitled a "Dishonorable, Dishonest Campaign" -- highlighted a number of these pieces. Joe Klein, of Time magazine called one spot the "sleaziest" he had ever seen. Paul Krugman of the New York Times, defined the episode as a "blizzard of lies." On Sunday, the St. Petersburg Times, ran an editorial entitled: "Campaign Of Lies Disgraces McCain," while the Chicago Tribune's Steve Chapman, wrote that "to McCain the truth is expandable."

    That Rove would acknowledge truth in these complaints is somewhat remarkable. The man known as Bush's brain made a reputation of slinging mud at the opposition and waiting for it to stick.

    But it should be noted, Rove's complaints with McCain's strategy was not that it had elicited the condemnation of groups like politifact or factcheck.org -- "You can't trust the fact check organization in all respect," he said. "They are human beings and individuals; they have got their own biases in there." Rather, he argued that by exaggerating so wildly, the Republican presidential nominee had opened himself up to political attacks.

    "They don't need to attack each other in this way," he said. "They have legitimate points to make about each other."

    UPDATE: Sure enough, the Obama campaign weighs in... gleefully.

    "In case anyone was still wondering whether John McCain is running the sleaziest, most dishonest campaign in history, today Karl Rove - the man who held the previous record - said McCain's ads have gone too far," said Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor.

    By: Sam Stein
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 14, 2008 9:41 PM GMT
    OMG, he's trying to "best" Bush by increasing the sleeze from the "swift boating venture" in 2004. I hope Obama is ready.

    McCain and the Palin woman....be on guard!
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    Sep 14, 2008 9:46 PM GMT
    Now do you believe that this is just a Bush 3rd term? ... icon_eek.gif
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    Sep 14, 2008 9:59 PM GMT
    The irony is that Rove is widely thought to be the one who came with a tactic that helped sink McCain in 2000.

    John McCain took the New Hampshire primary and was favored to win in South Carolina. Had he succeeded, he would likely have thwarted the presidential aspirations of George W. Bush and become the Republican nominee. But Bush strategist Karl Rove came to the rescue with a vicious smear tactic. Rove invented a uniquely injurious fiction for his operatives to circulate via a phony poll. Voters were asked, "Would you be more or less likely to vote for John McCain...if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?" This was no random slur. McCain was at the time campaigning with his dark-skinned daughter, Bridget, adopted from Bangladesh. Owing largely to the Rove-orchestrated whispering campaign, Bush prevailed in South Carolina and secured the Republican nomination.


    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080128/banks
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    Sep 14, 2008 10:14 PM GMT
    andymatic saidThe irony is that Rove is widely thought to be the one who came with a tactic that helped sink McCain in 2000.


    To heap more irony onto it, McCain hired Tucker Eskew, the man who orchestrated that poll, to work on his campaign.
  • Koaa2

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    Sep 14, 2008 10:27 PM GMT
    Rove is a piece of work, no one can, or should trust what he is saying. He, and the Republican party used gays to get Bush elected in Texas and to the White House.
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    Sep 15, 2008 1:29 AM GMT
    Maybe McPalin/s bubble will bust after all in the coming week or so. Things aren't looking too good from what Ross of ABC is digging up about Palin in Alaska either. Troopergate is growing, and the hell of it is that the republicans on the committee deciding whether the investigation went forward out numbered the the Democrats. I hope Obama comes out with lots of truth about issues as well as some hard hitting comebacks too. God I hope these next few weeks bring things around for the Dems !!!!!!!!!!!









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    Sep 15, 2008 4:25 AM GMT
    I'm glad to see the McCain camp getting some flack for their proliferation of mis-truths, distortions, and lies.

    Unfortunately though, perception is reality.

    When so many Americans still believe that Obama is Muslim, and still believe there were WMDs, and still believe that drilling "now" will help immediately, when all legitimate media has over and over proved these are not true... what can you do?

    I don't know.

    "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill




  • GQjock

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    Sep 15, 2008 8:32 AM GMT
    Unfortunately though, perception is reality

    No truer words
    why do you think some lawyers will make statements during testimony that they KNOW will be dismissed by the judge?

    The War Criminal George W Bush said it best

    "See in my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over again
    ...in order for the propaganda to sink in"
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    Sep 15, 2008 10:48 AM GMT
    skotjockmi said"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill

    OMG!...and he wasnt even talking about idiot Americans. ... icon_eek.gif

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    Sep 15, 2008 11:56 AM GMT
    Caslon7000 said,




    Now I feel dumber. Thanks Caslon!