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    Dec 14, 2012 11:37 PM GMT
    After yet another shooting, shouldn't we have more gun control laws?
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    Dec 15, 2012 12:16 AM GMT
    Connecticut has strict gun laws, if I'm correct.
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    Dec 15, 2012 12:22 AM GMT
    I said this in another topic, if the gunman obtained the gun illegally anyway then the law doesn't mean anything. And we certainly can't put him on trial for anything because he's dead.

    Stricter gun control does not necessarily mean less violence. If someone is as deranged as Mr. Adam Lanza is going to do what he did, he isn't going to just sit at home and think to himself that the law won't let him have a gun and go "oh well." He's going to find some other way to circumvent that law by either obtaining an illegal weapon or finding some other way to kill people.

    That said - I sort of do believe that the second amendment is a outdated seeing as we no longer have a militia and there isn't any reason for the public (i.e. non-police and military personnel) to have access to it - minus hunting rifles.
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    Dec 15, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    " the second amendment is a outdated seeing as we no longer have a militia and there isn't any reason for the public (i.e. non-police and military personnel) to have access to it - minus hunting rifles."

    ABSOLUTELY.
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    Dec 15, 2012 12:36 AM GMT
    GeorgeLifts said" the second amendment is a outdated seeing as we no longer have a militia and there isn't any reason for the public (i.e. non-police and military personnel) to have access to it - minus hunting rifles."

    ABSOLUTELY.

    Buuut also (this is why I'm torn) it makes sense to have in certain areas. During that time period, a good majority lived on farms and not really in the major cities. A crime was taking place on a farm, whoever law enforcement is isn't going to get there fast enough to stop the crime. And the founders had just fought a war with the British for independence which wouldn't have been able to happen without the use of their muskets

    Although not as common now, there are probably certain areas in the mid-west and upstate where sheriff or a police officer won't arrive at a location for whatever reason simply because there is so much freaking land to cross. A crime can happen in seconds - in this regard I can also see a gun being legal totally justified.
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
    Not sure if we need more gun control as much as we need serious crazy control. We see insane people walking city streets all the time and nothing is done, no money available, all sorts of great excuses, except crazy people keep getting weapons of mass destruction and doing things like killing children.

    Gun lovers and second amendment lovers will never give up a bullet, but could we not open up some new facilities and institute some safe havens for the seriously deranged?
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    Dec 15, 2012 1:29 PM GMT
    madfacts saidNot sure if we need more gun control as much as we need serious crazy control. We see insane people walking city streets all the time and nothing is done, no money available, all sorts of great excuses, except crazy people keep getting weapons of mass destruction and doing things like killing children.

    Gun lovers and second amendment lovers will never give up a bullet, but could we not open up some new facilities and institute some safe havens for the seriously deranged?


    This is very insightful. More mental health resources could only help.

    As to the idea that "people will get guns anyway," a lune attacked a school the same day in China with no fatalities. Many countries such as Switzerland insist that guns be stored in locked safes.
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    Dec 15, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
    GeorgeLifts said" the second amendment is a outdated seeing as we no longer have a militia and there isn't any reason for the public (i.e. non-police and military personnel) to have access to it - minus hunting rifles."

    ABSOLUTELY.

    The NRA argues that gun ownership and carrying concealed weapons is the ANSWER to ending gun violence, not the cause. Now if only someone would make tiny versions of the Glock this killer used so those 5-year-old kindergarten kids could have defended themselves. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 15, 2012 8:00 PM GMT
    Why does mass murder not rate on this site but an unsuccessful plot against Justin Bieber's balls gets plenty of attention?