Getting abs

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    Dec 15, 2012 7:14 AM GMT
    How long does it tend to take to get your bodyfat to the level where you can see a six pack. (i started from about 30% body fat and have been training for about 3 months)
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    Dec 15, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
    Depends on eating habits, workout routine, and genes.
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    Dec 15, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
    *waits for the genetics argument to start again*
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    Dec 15, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
    42 years
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
    in my experience, if you do it safely and naturally, you can lose about 1-1.5% bodyfat a week up to 20% bodyfat, and about 1% a week below 20%. Usually, you get abs once you're at 10%.

    Of course, this rate of fat loss would need lots of discipline with your eating and workouts.
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
    I have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidI have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.


    How does a diet target belly fat? I'm curious. I really want to know.
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
    rugbyjockca said
    Alpha13 saidI have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.


    How does a diet target belly fat? I'm curious. I really want to know.


    Well everything we were told about low fat diets was bad science . Eating good fat burns "bad fat" ( belly fat) . I would not have believed it myself until I got abs at 50 y.
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:35 PM GMT
    paulflexes said42 years


    So true! Lol icon_biggrin.gificon_smile.gif
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    rugbyjockca said
    Alpha13 saidI have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.


    How does a diet target belly fat? I'm curious. I really want to know.


    Well everything we were told about low fat diets was bad science . Eating good fat burns "bad fat" ( belly fat) . I would not have believed it myself until I got abs at 50 y.


    Paleo lifestyle works!
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:38 PM GMT
    rugbyjockca said
    Alpha13 saidI have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.


    How does a diet target belly fat? I'm curious. I really want to know.


    You can't target any area of fat. From bodybuilding.com, which I feel some guys here will trust more than a medical source:

    Spot reduction has been shown to be a fallacy as fat-loss from certain areas of the body is largely dependant on ones genetic predisposition.

    Indeed, genetics dictate exactly where fat is lost and how much will be lost over a certain period of time. In general it seems the last area to lose fat is the first area to gain it. Men tend to store fat on the abdominal region whereas women accumulate it around the hips and thighs.

    Training either of these areas exclusively (attempting to spot reduce) in the hope of losing fat will simply not work. Fat should instead be lost evenly. Training every body-part with equal intensity coupled with aerobic training remains the most effective means of losing fat.
  • calibro

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    Dec 15, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
    that depends on if you're cool with spanx
  • MidwesternKid

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    Dec 15, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
    Nothing was working for me, personally, till I started running regularly. I dropped 40 pounds over 7 months, and in the process changed my diet. I do the grocery shopping for me and my parents and was determined to eat better for myself but to encourage my parents as well. I decreased my portions big time and rarely eat processed foods. I also make a habit of choosing to snack on fruits and veggies. Sounds too simple, but for me it was tough to get in the routine. It doesn't work like this for everyone, but the best place to start is changing your diet and eating habits, and cardio to help burn that excess weight off. Genetics will always either help or get in the way, I think it's best to look past that and work towards the best you, that you can achieve and be happy with. I don't have a six pack, but I have a midsection now worth being happy about.
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    Dec 15, 2012 5:06 PM GMT
    Bunjamon said
    rugbyjockca said
    Alpha13 saidI have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.


    How does a diet target belly fat? I'm curious. I really want to know.


    You can't target any area of fat. From bodybuilding.com, which I feel some guys here will trust more than a medical source:

    Spot reduction has been shown to be a fallacy as fat-loss from certain areas of the body is largely dependant on ones genetic predisposition.

    Indeed, genetics dictate exactly where fat is lost and how much will be lost over a certain period of time. In general it seems the last area to lose fat is the first area to gain it. Men tend to store fat on the abdominal region whereas women accumulate it around the hips and thighs.

    Training either of these areas exclusively (attempting to spot reduce) in the hope of losing fat will simply not work. Fat should instead be lost evenly. Training every body-part with equal intensity coupled with aerobic training remains the most effective means of losing fat.


    It's not about training. Belly fat is "stuff " that should have never found its way to your body ( unnatural chemicals that are mislabeled as food) . Switch to all natural food and it disappears. I'm no gym rat and don't run yet my mid section gets tighter and tighter just by eating good fat..... And lots of it.
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    Dec 15, 2012 5:31 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    Bunjamon said
    rugbyjockca said
    Alpha13 saidI have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.


    How does a diet target belly fat? I'm curious. I really want to know.


    You can't target any area of fat. From bodybuilding.com, which I feel some guys here will trust more than a medical source:

    Spot reduction has been shown to be a fallacy as fat-loss from certain areas of the body is largely dependant on ones genetic predisposition.

    Indeed, genetics dictate exactly where fat is lost and how much will be lost over a certain period of time. In general it seems the last area to lose fat is the first area to gain it. Men tend to store fat on the abdominal region whereas women accumulate it around the hips and thighs.

    Training either of these areas exclusively (attempting to spot reduce) in the hope of losing fat will simply not work. Fat should instead be lost evenly. Training every body-part with equal intensity coupled with aerobic training remains the most effective means of losing fat.


    It's not about training. Belly fat is "stuff " that should have never found its way to your body ( unnatural chemicals that are mislabeled as food) . Switch to all natural food and it disappears. I'm no gym rat and don't run yet my mid section gets tighter and tighter just by eating good fat..... And lots of it.


    Really? Wheres your analysis of these 'bad substances' that compose belly fat?

    While there are definite benefits to a Paleo style diet, what you are saying right now is pseudoscience and conjecture. Some might say bullshit.

    You cannot spot lost fat. Belly fat is just the last to go, and Paleo diets make your body good at burning off fat. What you're suggesting would mean someone morbidly obese would go on Paleo, then get abs before their arms, chest, etc. lost fat. Which is ridiculous.
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    Dec 15, 2012 5:38 PM GMT
    It's not about training. Belly fat is "stuff " that should have never found its way to your body ( unnatural chemicals that are mislabeled as food) . Switch to all natural food and it disappears. I'm no gym rat and don't run yet my mid section gets tighter and tighter just by eating good fat..... And lots of it.


    What are some of the things you eat?

    I started in the summer with 30% body fat too, 3 months later I had lost 3" of my waistline, but there's still some there.... The hardest stuff to get rid of.

    Thanks. this is a great thread.
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    Dec 15, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    Bunjamon said
    rugbyjockca said
    Alpha13 saidI have seem Paleo Diet strip 10 lbs of fat per month. The difference with Paleo diet is that it targets belly fat.


    How does a diet target belly fat? I'm curious. I really want to know.


    You can't target any area of fat. From bodybuilding.com, which I feel some guys here will trust more than a medical source:

    Spot reduction has been shown to be a fallacy as fat-loss from certain areas of the body is largely dependant on ones genetic predisposition.

    Indeed, genetics dictate exactly where fat is lost and how much will be lost over a certain period of time. In general it seems the last area to lose fat is the first area to gain it. Men tend to store fat on the abdominal region whereas women accumulate it around the hips and thighs.

    Training either of these areas exclusively (attempting to spot reduce) in the hope of losing fat will simply not work. Fat should instead be lost evenly. Training every body-part with equal intensity coupled with aerobic training remains the most effective means of losing fat.


    It's not about training. Belly fat is "stuff " that should have never found its way to your body ( unnatural chemicals that are mislabeled as food) . Switch to all natural food and it disappears. I'm no gym rat and don't run yet my mid section gets tighter and tighter just by eating good fat..... And lots of it.


    By saying that the Paleo diet targets belly fat are you referring to visceral fat, the harmful kind that collects around your vital organs? If true, then spot reduction via diet would make sense.

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    Dec 15, 2012 7:12 PM GMT
    Lipo
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    Dec 15, 2012 7:26 PM GMT
    Its pretty much 70-80% diet and cardio. Also lower body workouts, and lower back exercise will help in make them pop a bit. Most importantly it takes time.icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 15, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
    censorthis1 saidIts pretty much 70-80% diet and cardio. Also lower body workouts, and lower back exercise will help in make them pop a bit. Most importantly it takes time.icon_wink.gif


    Warning: too much cardio burns fat AND lean muscle mass. Need to do the cardio on the lower- herat-rate fat burning setting!!
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    Dec 15, 2012 7:47 PM GMT
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    censorthis1 saidIts pretty much 70-80% diet and cardio. Also lower body workouts, and lower back exercise will help in make them pop a bit. Most importantly it takes time.icon_wink.gif


    Warning: too much cardio burns fat AND lean muscle mass. Need to do the cardio on the lower- herat-rate fat burning setting!!


    Very true. Excessive cardio can be detrimental to building lean muscle mass. However it seems as if moderate cardio (three days a week 15-20 minutes) has benefited me in seeing my abs show more. However this is still in conjunction with a diet of mainly lean proteins (fish,beans, chicken) and vegetables, and weight training.
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    Dec 15, 2012 7:49 PM GMT
    Abs?
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    Dec 15, 2012 7:50 PM GMT
    Cut out the complex carbs, all sugars and breads, and very little other post-agricultural. Eat lots of REAL food protein, and fruit after your workout. Do your version of the Paleo. Belly fat melts off. Do lots of core, like the cables while standing on one of those tilt-balls. Killer for core@
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    Dec 15, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
    No garlic bread...no brownies?.....icon_cry.gif
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    Dec 15, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    turbobilly saidNo garlic bread...no brownies?.....icon_cry.gif


    Please, is that a leisure suit? icon_eek.gif