For the Bi Gender Couples here is a little something for you

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  • Bicuriouscool

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    Dec 15, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
    I love threesomes
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    Dec 15, 2012 2:17 PM GMT
    Following that logic....

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    Bicuriouscool saidI love threesomes


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  • calibro

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    Dec 15, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
    there's no such thing as bi-gender
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    Dec 15, 2012 3:27 PM GMT
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender

    Duh, goes without saying.
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    Dec 15, 2012 8:00 PM GMT
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    no, bisexual means you date both genders
    bi-gender means you are male and female in your construction of your gender.
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    Dec 15, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
    calibro said
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    no, bisexual means you date both genders
    bi-gender means you are male and female in your construction of your gender.


    Hermaphrodites are born with male and female sex organs.
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    Dec 15, 2012 8:05 PM GMT
    Correct me if I am wrong, but 'Gender' refers to the socially constructed roles of and relations between men and women, while 'Sex' refers to biological characteristics which define humans as female or male.


    HottJoe said
    calibro said
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    no, bisexual means you date both genders
    bi-gender means you are male and female in your construction of your gender.


    Hermaphrodites are born with male and female sex organs.
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    Dec 15, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
    This is kinda cool, and kinda funny:

    My best friend in HS tansgendered to female. He was overweight and really hairy, and turned out looking like Ginger from Gilligans Island.

    He married he woman who transgendered to a man that he met when they were doing their surgery at the same time in the hospital!
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    Dec 15, 2012 8:51 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    calibro said
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    no, bisexual means you date both genders
    bi-gender means you are male and female in your construction of your gender.


    Hermaphrodites are born with male and female sex organs.

    moma nature is more imaginative than ladies usually are. There are creatures who have both genders genitals on each of the individual of their species called harmaphradites. Tapeworm(if memory serves right) also there are some who are male for some time and females at others (snail).
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    Dec 15, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    creyente saidCorrect me if I am wrong, but 'Gender' refers to the socially constructed roles of and relations between men and women, while 'Sex' refers to biological characteristics which define humans as female or male.


    Gender identity is the construct. Gender could refer to gender identity or gender the sex. I think in most conversation, unless gender identity has already been designated the topic, we usually think of gender as the sex, particularly or at least possibly because some language contains words which are gender-specific. You know like hostess or waitress or Mary.
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    Dec 15, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    The term doesn't make sense.

    Bigender would be the same as saying androgynous... which sounds better.
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    Dec 15, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    creyente saidCorrect me if I am wrong, but 'Gender' refers to the socially constructed roles of and relations between men and women, while 'Sex' refers to biological characteristics which define humans as female or male.


    Gender identity is the construct. Gender could refer to gender identity or gender the sex. I think in most conversation, unless gender identity has already been designated the topic, we usually think of gender as the sex, particularly or at least possibly because some language contains words which are gender-specific. You know like hostess or waitress or Mary.


    No, gender sex. There is gender roles and then there is sex.

    Maculine, feminine, androgynous, nuetral.. from BEM sex (predates the use of gender) role inventory

    Twospirits, Hirjas, Transvestites... ect
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    Dec 15, 2012 10:42 PM GMT
    Vaughn said
    theantijock said
    creyente saidCorrect me if I am wrong, but 'Gender' refers to the socially constructed roles of and relations between men and women, while 'Sex' refers to biological characteristics which define humans as female or male.


    Gender identity is the construct. Gender could refer to gender identity or gender the sex. I think in most conversation, unless gender identity has already been designated the topic, we usually think of gender as the sex, particularly or at

    least possibly because some language contains words which are gender-specific. You know like hostess or waitress or Mary.


    No, gender sex. There is gender roles and then there is sex.

    Maculine, feminine, androgynous, nuetral.. from BEM sex (predates the use of gender) role inventory

    Twospirits, Hirjas, Transvestites... ect


    no, antijock is right. the definition of sex is based on whether you have one or two x chromosomes. you cannot argue with sex. hermaphrodites are an issue of sex (but can be ones of gender manifested).

    gender is a complete societal construct based on one's sex.
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    Dec 16, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    calibro said
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    no, bisexual means you date both genders
    bi-gender means you are male and female in your construction of your gender.


    Which would then be called "hermaphroditic".
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    Dec 16, 2012 2:41 AM GMT
    calibro said
    Vaughn said
    theantijock said
    creyente saidCorrect me if I am wrong, but 'Gender' refers to the socially constructed roles of and relations between men and women, while 'Sex' refers to biological characteristics which define humans as female or male.


    Gender identity is the construct. Gender could refer to gender identity or gender the sex. I think in most conversation, unless gender identity has already been designated the topic, we usually think of gender as the sex, particularly or at

    least possibly because some language contains words which are gender-specific. You know like hostess or waitress or Mary.


    No, gender sex. There is gender roles and then there is sex.

    Maculine, feminine, androgynous, nuetral.. from BEM sex (predates the use of gender) role inventory

    Twospirits, Hirjas, Transvestites... ect


    no, antijock is right. the definition of sex is based on whether you have one or two x chromosomes. you cannot argue with sex. hermaphrodites are an issue of sex (but can be ones of gender manifested).

    gender is a complete societal construct based on one's sex.


    But sex is not a gender. There are 4 basic gender roles and not 4 sexs (which don't necissarily match up with a sex). Intersexuals* are not a gender but a sex.
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    Dec 16, 2012 2:42 AM GMT
    GAMRican said
    calibro said
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    no, bisexual means you date both genders
    bi-gender means you are male and female in your construction of your gender.


    Which would then be called "hermaphroditic".


    Androgynous
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
    ...Although this gradual change in the meaning of gender can be traced to the 1980s, a small acceleration of the process in the scientific literature was observed when the Food and Drug Administration started to use "gender" instead of "sex" in 1993.[7] "Gender" is now commonly used even to refer to the physiology of non-human animals, without any implication of social gender roles.
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    Dec 16, 2012 3:29 AM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said Following that logic....

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    that dog could me a male too so it's only one gender
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    Dec 16, 2012 3:34 AM GMT
    theantijock saidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
    ...Although this gradual change in the meaning of gender can be traced to the 1980s, a small acceleration of the process in the scientific literature was observed when the Food and Drug Administration started to use "gender" instead of "sex" in 1993.[7] "Gender" is now commonly used even to refer to the physiology of non-human animals, without any implication of social gender roles.


    I'm citing how they tech it in Social Behavioral Sciences in school. Which is what is relevent here, not animals. The FDA is not an authority on gender, the APA, AAA and ASA are.

    Gender is socialization/culture

    Sex is somatic (biology)

    We get marked down when we mix the terms.
    The BEM roles are considered to be consistant however Anthropoligists have identified many alternative gender roles.

    Hirjas involove casteration as a right of passage and are debatably related to sex.

    Gender roles exist in a system with relation to eachother. They don't nesissarily match the person's sex even though it is considered normative in Western culture... Gender roles are often plastic in Western subculture with eglatarian themes (Feminism, Gay Culture, Shakers).
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    Vaughn said
    GAMRican said
    calibro said
    HungWhiteDick said
    calibro saidthere's no such thing as bi-gender


    Yuh Huh.
    It means you are dating both genders.
    Both=Bi


    Its not a real term because it hasnt been conceived before.


    no, bisexual means you date both genders
    bi-gender means you are male and female in your construction of your gender.


    Which would then be called "hermaphroditic".


    Androgynous


    That's right. I was thinking "physical construction of gender" as opposed to "psychological construction of gender". Oops!
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    Dec 16, 2012 4:01 AM GMT
    calibro said
    StudlyScrewRite said Following that logic....

    man+marries+pet+dog-strange.jpg


    that dog could be a male too so it's only one gender


    Therefore, not a "bi-gender couple" as stated by the OP?
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    Vaughn said
    theantijock saidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
    ...Although this gradual change in the meaning of gender can be traced to the 1980s, a small acceleration of the process in the scientific literature was observed when the Food and Drug Administration started to use "gender" instead of "sex" in 1993.[7] "Gender" is now commonly used even to refer to the physiology of non-human animals, without any implication of social gender roles.


    I'm citing how they teach it in Social Behavioral Sciences in school. Which is what is relevent here, not animals. The FDA is not an authority on gender, the APA, AAA and ASA are.

    Gender is socialization/culture

    Sex is somatic (biology)

    We get marked down when we mix the terms.
    The BEM roles are considered to be consistant however Anthropoligists have identified many alternative gender roles.

    Hirjas involove casteration as a right of passage and are debatably related to sex.

    Gender roles **exist in a system with relation to eachother. They don't nesissarily match the person's sex even though it is considered normative in Western culture... Gender roles are often plastic in Western subculture with eglatarian themes (Feminism, Gay Culture, Shakers).


    Yes, I saw what you were doing there. Yet, that you decided to narrowly define your own conversation neither means that everyone has to speak your language nor does it make others wrong for not speaking with your terms.

    Webster, for example, defines gender as:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender

    1

    a: a subclass within a grammatical class (as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms

    b: membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass

    c: an inflectional form showing membership in such a subclass

    2

    a: sex

    b: the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    I look forward to your citing examples of all the gender-specific variations of a restaurant's wait staff. Please include in your submittal male (waitor), female (waitress) and all applicable others (such as: hey, Mary, & Oh, Miss, etc.)


    **Note also that even in your own citation, you specify not just "gender" but "gender role". And gender role most definitely has a more narrow definition than does gender with regard to sex v construct.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role
    A gender role is a set of social and behavioral norms...