Thai government drafting same-sex civil partnership law

  • metta

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    Dec 17, 2012 8:57 AM GMT
    Thai government drafting same-sex civil partnership law

    The government in Thailand has formed a committee with policy advisors and LGBT rights advocates to draft legal recognition for same-sex couples

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/thai-government-drafting-same-sex-civil-partnership-law171212
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    Dec 17, 2012 6:08 PM GMT
    Progress, step by step. icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:39 AM GMT
    Way a go Thailand! Its never too late :-)))
  • Angelix90

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    Dec 21, 2012 6:47 AM GMT
    It's about time!
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    This not only gives equal rights to Thailand's gay population but brings parity to the expat community there as well because currently foreigners can only own property (other than condo units in buildings owned in the majority by nationals) through their married Thai partners which means that gay expats could not, say, own farmland or a house in the suburbs where it might be cheaper to live than in a condo in a city while their str8 counterparts could live at more reasonable cost plus own their own property (to better control living expenses, better assure security, farm, garden, whatever) through their hetero spouses.

    So enacting such a policy there could have immediate international implication even from within their own borders. Good for you, Thailand, Land of Smiles.

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    Example of house & cost:

    http://www.isaan-house.com/properties/showproperty/5-nong-khai/19-kuen-wan-village-/15-houses-for-sale/5-single-house/38-single-2-storey-house-in-kuen-wan-village-nongkhai-close-to-mekong-river

    asking US $71,400
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    Now picture this guy on that balcony
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    http://www.ddproperty.com/en/property/2-bedroom-detached-house-in-saraphi-chiang-mai-635801

    asking US $94,500 or $98/sq ft
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    http://www.ddproperty.com/en/property/house-for-sale-doisaket-district-197-sq-wah-590733

    asking US $107,600 or $44/sq ft
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    The implication of this is that, especially should we gain our equal human rights in the USA, an American retiree with even just $50,000 or $100,000 savings for property plus meeting other financial requirements** (mostly just some social security) could marry and live well there and have their spouse benefit just as do hetero spouses of Americans even upon the expat's death.

    **FINANCIAL REQUIREMENT (for retirement visa age 50 & up):

    1.BANK ACCOUNT SHOWING THB 800,000 (currently--as of this post date US $26,08icon_cool.gif
    2.MONTHLY INCOME OF AT LEAST THB 65,000 ($2,119, say average SS of $1,230 plus additional savings of about $266,000 withdrawing 4% annual) or
    3. (the easy plan) COMBINATION (BANK ACCOUNT + INCOME x 12 = THB 800,000) ie SS income of 1,230 x 12 = $14,760 - $26,088 = $11,328 in their bank.

    So to live there you'd need only enough to buy the house (or rent) plus showing income of your social security plus $11k in the bank. Try that in Manhattan. Of course, probably not as easy to find a bagel or a slice of pizza, but all the delicious Thai food you can eat at probably $3 a meal. Sounds like a plan.
  • metta

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    Dec 21, 2012 6:01 PM GMT

    I will take this one for under $400k. icon_smile.gif

    It still needs major remodeling though.

    http://www.isaan-house.com/properties/showproperty/3-udon-thani/9-muang-udon-thani/15-houses-for-sale/5-single-house/66-house-for-sale-in-udonthani
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:14 PM GMT
    Have you noticed you've very expensive tastes? haha.

    Nice to dream, but, my issue with that, there, is security of investment. It's tough enough for me to trust anything even in my own country anymore as I've seen people in the last few years lose as much 80plus% of what they had and I lost mid to high six figures myself so my level of faith in the system is at an all time low and I don't expect it to ever be restored.

    So putting money outside of your own nationality has got to be even more risky. There's nothing in your power to stop an asset from being nationalized, not in your own country and certainly not in one foreign to you.

    And even though an overseas marriage contract should shore up that investment to some degree, you then have the added risk of being scammed in love. I would want to provide for my spouse if I were so able but I would not want to be scammed; and I've had people in my life, even family, not reveal the depths of their depravity for as much as decades. Life is risky. I'll take some but I need to minimize it as reasonably as I can. Dream on.
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    Dec 21, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
    theantijock saidHave you noticed you've very expensive tastes? haha.


    I prefer to not have homes on all sides of me with at least some kind of view on one side. icon_smile.gif

    I <3 thai food! Yum!!! And I want to ride on an elephant.
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    Dec 23, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    Oh good may be I should move back... Lol
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    Dec 23, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    I guess that means middle age American/Euro/Aussie rice queens can make it official with the Thai boys they pick up? icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 24, 2012 3:07 AM GMT
    PhilipFillup saidOh good may be I should move back... Lol


    We dream of paradise in Thailand & you emigrate here? Life never makes sense.

    metta8 said
    theantijock saidHave you noticed you've very expensive tastes? haha.


    I prefer to not have homes on all sides of me with at least some kind of view on one side. icon_smile.gif

    I <3 thai food! Yum!!! And I want to ride on an elephant.


    Here's a guy eating on 100 baht (about $3.25)/day.



    And here's a good vid on the elephants there. You can volunteer to help care for them and wash a baby elephant in the river. How excellent would that be.



    As for privacy, you'd be surprised what you can do with bamboo. I've got at least two species native of Thailand. Even living near one of our largest universities, within about another year my neighbors will have all but disappeared behind the forest I'm planting. Instant views, instant privacy.