Gun control Do you think changing the law and allowing more people in more states to own them would prevent or increase crime?

  • TallguyNLA

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    Dec 17, 2012 7:02 PM GMT
    What do you all think about it? There has been a rash of shootings lately. This year seems to be more concentrated than any others that I can remember. I live in Southern California, and lately Im more and more nervous about watching the news. Its like you cant even go anywhere without worrying about some idiot going on a crazy shooting spree! There was a horrific murder in Newport Beach over the summer. A man killed his wife and then hid her body, just a few days ago Cal State Fullerton was locked down because of a gun man. I have lots of friends who were stuck for 5 hours or more. Saturday night, there was a shooting at Fashion Island in Newport, but I think the worst of it all is the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre. I cannot imagine what those parents are going through. I just wanna cry every time I see pictures and read articles....
    If you could own a gun or if you live in a state that allows you to carry a weapon do feel that it increases crime or do you feel more safe?
  • hanzo83

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    Dec 18, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
    TallguyNLA saidWhat do you all think about it? There has been a rash of shootings lately. This year seems to be more concentrated than any others that I can remember. I live in Southern California, and lately Im more and more nervous about watching the news. Its like you cant even go anywhere without worrying about some idiot going on a crazy shooting spree! There was a horrific murder in Newport Beach over the summer. A man killed his wife and then hid her body, just a few days ago Cal State Fullerton was locked down because of a gun man. I have lots of friends who were stuck for 5 hours or more. Saturday night, there was a shooting at Fashion Island in Newport, but I think the worst of it all is the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre. I cannot imagine what those parents are going through. I just wanna cry every time I see pictures and read articles....
    If you could own a gun or if you live in a state that allows you to carry a weapon do feel that it increases crime or do you feel more safe?


    People are gonna do what they want whether they are allowed to buy guns or carry them anyway. When somebody is that hateful and crazy they'll find a way to hurt people and there aren't any laws or anything that can stop that. At the same time I don't believe anybody can die before it's their time to do so. That's why in a massacre some live and some others die. My heart goes out to all the victims but we all are gonna die somehow and just at the right time. I'm sure those kids went out without any pain or unnecessary trauma even though their bodies got destroyed.

    Everybody wants to prevent death and it just can't be done. I wish nobody had to die in such violent ways, but nobody has the power to prevent a death when it's somebody's time to die.
  • tazzari

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    Dec 18, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
    There is no single solution. The only way to lower the violence we are seeing is to adapt a broad array of measures, no one of which will be THE solution, but taken together, education, mental health care, tighter control of fire arms and ammunition and steps to keep them out of the wrong hands - will all add up.

    As to more people carrying guns - I can't buy that. A shooting is terrible, but I hate to think what might happen if a lot of untrained gun carriers returned fire. I'm a gun owner and from a family of shooters, and I have worked at the international level in shooting sports - guns belong only in the hands of the well-trained.
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    Dec 18, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
    TallguyNLA saidWhat do you all think about it?


    Really? I have to see this shit on RealJock? c'mon. we JUST FINISHED an election.
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    Dec 18, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
    When guns are the problem and the solution you know that is not the answer.

    I do know one thing. High Caliber Assault Rifles should be in nobodies hands.
  • in_this_corne...

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    Dec 18, 2012 11:59 PM GMT
    I think this horse has been beaten, gutted, and hung out to dry in the Firearm Control thread.
  • TallguyNLA

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    Dec 19, 2012 7:06 AM GMT
    I was watching the news today and one of the issues brought up was "children's safety" in the event that a teacher was armed. I thought it was a very interesting point. I really wonder what the outcome would have been if the teachers in this school were armed. What if a teacher had a concealed weapon that day and was able to kill or at least stop this maniac before he hurt someone else? Would this person have been considered a HERO and then still taken off to jail to serve time? Would it have been the "right" thing to do? We a;ways hear that two wrongs dont make a right, but in this case...or any case where innocent kids are hurt where do we draw that line?
    I think all good parents would do anything to defend their kids,even if it meant breaking the law.
  • TallguyNLA

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    Dec 19, 2012 7:07 AM GMT
    msuNtx saidWhen guns are the problem and the solution you know that is not the answer.

    I do know one thing. High Caliber Assault Rifles should be in nobodies hands.

    I agree with you %100 on that one.