Looking into testosterone supplement...

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    Dec 18, 2012 1:42 AM GMT
    Last month I bought some L-Glutamine and got a whole bag of free supplements from GNC. It include High-T Black Test. booster. It was only like a 2 day sample though.

    So now I'm wondering if I should buy some, not necessarily that brand though. I'm kind of conflicted because at my age cant see me NEEDING a testerone booster but I read that it does make a difference in mass/strength.

    I don't mind taking it, but will it make you aggressive and angry if you don't need it and just get too much testerone? Will I want to jack-off 3-4 times a day and fuck everything that walks?

  • fitartistsf

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    Dec 18, 2012 5:57 AM GMT
    You shouldn't need to take a test booster until you are in your 40s and 50s... by the age of 40, men begin to loose testosterone because the body stops producing it. By age 50, most men have lost about 50% of their natural Test. That is why men begin to get fat naturally, regardless of careful nutrition or not, and develop man boobs, spare tires, etc. The estrogen that is produced in men begins to be more dominant. I currently take 2TX, sold at Max Muscle supplement stores... well, at least the one here where I live. Again, at 25, you shouldn't need to take test, it might actually inhibit the natural production you still have going on....
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    Dec 18, 2012 9:13 AM GMT
    fitartistsf saidYou shouldn't need to take a test booster until you are in your 40s and 50s... by the age of 40, men begin to loose testosterone because the body stops producing it. By age 50, most men have lost about 50% of their natural Test. That is why men begin to get fat naturally, regardless of careful nutrition or not, and develop man boobs, spare tires, etc. The estrogen that is produced in men begins to be more dominant. I currently take 2TX, sold at Max Muscle supplement stores... well, at least the one here where I live. Again, at 25, you shouldn't need to take test, it might actually inhibit the natural production you still have going on....


    well I'm happy I get to save $50 but dang thought I was going to have some extra juice for the gym.

    I was checking some things out at the store today but I never buy supplements until I ask and read about them first.
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    Dec 18, 2012 10:11 AM GMT
    I'd say give BSN EvoTest a go- powder. Tastes bloody awful (Dr. Pepper's cheap nasty cousin), but I found it to genuinely improve overall well being, quicker recovery and improved capacity.

    People at any age can benefit from it, some more than others (and some much less). This is because some unlucky folks have a lower test producing capability than others. So do what feels right for you.

    I cut out EvoTest until I move next month and settle down- it really should be taken with a solid uninterrupted program.
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    Dec 18, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    I'd question the efficacy of over-the-counter DHEA and test boosters.
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    Dec 18, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThat crap you can buy at GNC or any health food store is a waste of money.



    Completely agree!
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    Dec 18, 2012 4:51 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidI'd question the efficacy of over-the-counter DHEA and test boosters.


    This for sure. Anything that actually worked would be lighting up the bodybuilding.com forums and other such sites and it probably wouldn't be long before it was banned. 99% of what you buy as supplements are pure hype and a waste of money. Until you can find solid peer reviewed research saying something works - assume it does not.

    2nd and more important, you don't want to mess with your hormones especially if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
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    Dec 18, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    Why would you want to start testosterone substitutes? Eat more red meat and nuts. Natural is best when it comes to YOUR body's chemistry.
  • Destinharbor

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    Dec 18, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    If you think you might be low, get your doctor to prescribe a blood test. If you are, you can get the real thing. If you aren't, some of these actually may screw with your own natural production. And that can also screw with your sex drive in a negative way.
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    Dec 18, 2012 5:20 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidIf you think you might be low, get your doctor to prescribe a blood test. If you are, you can get the real thing. If you aren't, some of these actually may screw with your own natural production. And that can also screw with your sex drive in a negative way.


    This is true, real doc, real replacement therapy. I was low even at a young age, but really didn't need it until about 40
  • SomeSiciliano...

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    Dec 18, 2012 5:39 PM GMT

    I am afraid that the 'low-T' thing has turned into 21st century snake oil.

    Please get the facts about your free-T levels before spending your money on T-enhancement supps that may cause damage over the long run.
  • Destinharbor

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    Dec 18, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    SomeSicilianoGuy said
    I am afraid that the 'low-T' thing has turned into 21st century snake oil.

    Please get the facts about your free-T levels before spending your money on T-enhancement supps that may cause damage over the long run.


    I agree you should read up on it, but I disagree that the Low-T is snake oil. There is a range of normal for men at different ages and modern science is beginning to say that higher T count has some positive health effects in terms of energy and the body's speed in repairing itself. That's why bodybuilders benefit even if they aren't low. Frankly, I think the media noise about roid rage is about the same as reefer madness. Mostly bullshit. I do think messing with T without a need can screw with libido which is something no man wants. And it can cause hair loss on the head, hair growth elsewhere, yuk, and acne. But not always and not necessarily. And prostate issues are mentioned though that is theoretical and we're now finding out most of the conventional wisdom about that is and has been wrong.

    One BIG issue with T replacement, at least the topical kind is that women and children MUST NOT come in contact with it until fully absorbed. Awful if they do.
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    Dec 19, 2012 9:11 AM GMT
    uoft23 said99% of what you buy as supplements are pure hype and a waste of money. Until you can find solid peer reviewed research saying something works - assume it does not.

    2nd and more important, you don't want to mess with your hormones especially if you don't know exactly what you're doing.


    Definitely don't want to mess with the hormones. I don't have a low sex drive or anything. One of my (soon to be X) friends said to me last weekend, "why do you need to get laid again, you just got laid last weekend." I'm like you idiot...last weekend????? Are you kidding me? I need it 2-3 times a week to stay regular.

    However, the part about supplements now...what about Beta Alanine, L-Glutamine, HMB and of course creatine? EAS has included all of those and I have noticed a difference in using them. I guess that would be the 1% of stuff that works?

    But I'm actually relieved to hear that though. I like my supplements but I just hate going to GNC and getting sucked into buying every supplement and if I don't, leave feeling like I'm not taking working out seriously. I usually go to buy my main 2 or 3 supplements and jet.
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    Dec 19, 2012 9:39 AM GMT
    I've posted this before but,

    http://supplementreviews.com/

    L-Glutamine and beta alanine are amino acids. They can help with recovery.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Alanine

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-glutamine

    I have no experience with HMB.

    If you're are looking for a natural test boost, try ZMA.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMA

    I don't know if it actually has any effect on test directly, at least according to the article, but I do find it helps with sleep and recovery. It's also relatively inexpensive. And I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it, but I haven't had a cold since I started supplementing with it- almost 2 years now.

    Do your homework!
  • Kairr

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    Dec 19, 2012 9:43 AM GMT
    be aware of prostate cancer
  • Beeftastic

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    Dec 19, 2012 11:01 AM GMT
    A lot of these test boosters are very expensive, and cost way too much. The main ingredients in almost all of these is: Yohimbe, Tribulus, and Horny Goat Weed. Buy them seperately and you will get a much higher dose, and pay less in the long run.

    Also, these are the main ingredients in herbal boner pills like Extense. They can make you more horny, and boost your sexual drive. They won't make you more aggressive or an asshole, that's really not testosterone that does that anyway, but too much estrogen, and of course steroids.

    When your testosterone levels are high, your body will make estrogen, this could cause mood swings, aggressive behavior , water gain etc. Zinc will inhibit the bodies uptake of estrogen, hence one of the benefits of taking it in a ZMA supplement etc.
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    Dec 19, 2012 11:29 AM GMT
    If it can increase your testo it requires a prescription.

    Always has, always will be.

    Ask any MD.