Speaker Boehner's 'Plan B' Vote Backfires and He is Now Effectively Neutered As Speaker of the House!

  • coolarmydude

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    Dec 21, 2012 3:12 AM GMT
    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/20/16049886-lacking-support-house-pulls-last-ditch-cliff-fix-heads-home?lite

    After a cancelled vote on a contingency bill and a dramatic defeat for Republican leadership, United States House members will head home for the Christmas holiday without legislative action to halt a mix of automatic spending cuts and tax increases set to take effect in just 11 days.
    Lacking enough support to pass a backup proposal to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, House Republican leaders on Thursday night were forced to pull from the floor a vote on 'Plan B' legislation that would have preserved Bush-era tax rates for all earners making less than $1 million but raised rates on the country's top earners.

    At the end of a week that began with high hopes for compromise on a bargain to correct the nation's fiscal course, Washington now appears further apart than ever. House Speaker John Boehner intended that his last-ditch tax effort, coupled with revised spending reductions, would give the GOP-dominated House continued leverage in its negotiations with the White House and the Senate, both controlled by Democrats. But it was ultimately brought down by conservative Republicans reluctant to raise tax rates on any Americans, even the nation's top earners.
    The House will now recess for the Christmas holiday, leaders said. Members have been advised that the House will return "when needed" before the end of the year.
    "The House did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass," House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said in a statement. "Now it is up to the president to work with Senator Reid on legislation to avert the fiscal cliff. The House has already passed legislation to stop all of the January 1 tax rate increases and replace the sequester with responsible spending cuts that will begin to address our nation's crippling debt. The Senate must now act."

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  • coolarmydude

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    Dec 21, 2012 3:16 AM GMT
    My take on what happened behind the scenes is that TEA Party members of the Republican House Caucus, were so pissed that Boehner stripped four members from their committee assignment, and used this Plan B, already at odds with their ideology, to set him up for this embarrassing non vote.

    Additionally, some members were already grumbling about Boehner agreeing with the President on raising taxes and called for Boehner's removal from the Speaker position. January 3rd, House Republicans will vote for the Speaker of the House.

    This backfire event effectively neuters John Boehner as Speaker of the House and signals that they intend on voting on someone else on January 3rd. Care to guess for whom they will vote?

    I think Eric Cantor led this set-up and part of the deal is for him to get voted on the position.
  • coolarmydude

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    Dec 21, 2012 3:18 AM GMT
    Oh yeah...


    REVOLT!
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    Dec 21, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    I think our conservative representatives were thinking of the poor as well...
    http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/plan-b-actually-raise-taxes-184648865.html
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  • reptile18

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    Dec 21, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    Worst part is that Eric Cantor might be the new house speaker. Which would be awful and really make things a whole lot worse. It will never happen because of the Tea Party, but they really need a republican that's rational, moderate, and willing to negotiate. Boehner wasn't him, but Cantor's going to be even worse.
  • reptile18

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    Dec 21, 2012 6:13 AM GMT
    coolarmydude saidOh yeah...


    REVOLT!


    But just to make it clear, I am laughing along with you at the Republican infighting and making themselves look even worse at a time when the majority of the country already sees them as too extremist...

    However, I wish the partisan crap would just end... If only the Democrats could have taken the House as well...
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    Dec 21, 2012 8:06 AM GMT
    waterloonicetop saidAll of the members want the cliff to happen because it is the right thing to do. They just dont want to get blamed for doing the right but unpopular thing so they are going through the motions of pretepnding to have tried to do something, and set up both sides to blame the other when right but unpopular things happen.


    How is the cliff the right thing to do? Wouldn't that fuck us up royally?
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    Dec 21, 2012 2:49 PM GMT
    Anyone else find it annoying that these people are allowed to go home for the holidays?

    Anyone working in corporate America with a situation like this looming for their company would be forced to work until a resolution was reached.

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    Dec 21, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
    Republicans and Obama want the cliff, everyone will get what they want. Obama will get the tax increases on the rich and the republicans will quickly vote to lower taxes on everyone else, thus claiming to be the party that lowers taxes after the president led the biggest tax increase in history. Everyone wins.

    Except the poor, the military, the banks, the unemployed, the investors, the world economy and the American people who must be feeling ashamed we have somehow elected these clowns to run this once great country.
  • GQjock

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    Dec 21, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    In the Spirit of Christmas let us give thanx to a party who has given us
    many things that we can look back on
    ..... The War in Iraq that killed and displaced so many millions for no good reason
    ..... The debt Ceiling debate that caused the world markets to freak out and for a little while actually lowered our credit worthiness again for no apparent reason

    .... and now we have the Fiscal Cliff that was made for no Apparent Reason other than to give republicans a Nuclear Dirty Bomb to lob at America

    Tick Tick Tick ...... Get in your bunkers people the republicans are gonna trickle down on you yet again
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:27 PM GMT
    "If part of what President Obama was after was Republican humiliation and disarray, it’s going better than even he could have hoped."


    Rich Lowry in [url]http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/336285/more-plan-b-rich-lowry#[/url]

    When THE CONSERVATIVE National Review says you're screwed, you are screwed.

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    Dec 21, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    more from Rich Lowry:

    " The political advantage of Plan B was that it could have shifted the focus to Senate Democrats and at least set them up to take some more of the blame if we go over the cliff. Now Republicans will be even more vulnerable to getting blamed."

    "The GOP leadership seemed united on this one, but there’s nothing like a debacle to create an every-man-for-himself dynamic. I wouldn’t be surprised to see tensions begin to emerge between the camps of Speaker Boehner and Whip Kevin McCarthy."