Newt Gingrich supports gay marriage??????

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    Dec 21, 2012 8:15 AM GMT
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/newt-gingrich-time-has-come-405918


    Very interesting, while he still personally believes a marriage is between a man and a woman, he calls for Republicans to change their views on it.
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    I'm a bit suspicious. " Dealing with it" doesn't necessarily mean approving of it.
  • imbrad

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    Dec 21, 2012 4:42 PM GMT
    Gingrich is a very intelligent man. He views everything politically. He has the emotional range of a toaster but he's not stupid. I think it is important that more of the GOP is realizing that the fight against equality is coming to an end. Just in time to focus on more pressing issues.
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:51 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica saidI'm a bit suspicious. " Dealing with it" doesn't necessarily mean approving of it.
    lol Thats why I have the question marks...In reality he does not approve or support gay marriage, but realizes it is a losing battle for the GOP. And that morally we need to view a marriage, now, as a legal contract, rather than a religious ceremony.
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:51 PM GMT
    Yep. That's why Republicans needed Obama to win the election, to finally show them once and for all, that despite their views they have to DEAL with it and eventually that means just accept and embrace it.
  • Destinharbor

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    Dec 21, 2012 4:56 PM GMT
    Always reliable that the Republicans over time focus on what they can say that will lead to power. They never, ever are on the right side of a policy issue and when they change positions, it is never, ever because they realize what assholes they have been.
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
    This surprises me since Gingrich converted to Catholocism a few years ago and claims to be more devout than he was as a Protestant. Of course most devout Catholics haven't been married three times either...
  • Sportsfan1

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    Dec 21, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
    Still do not trust him. I think he realizes the inevitable, that same-sex marriage will soon be legal in this country. At least he sees the difference between a civil contract and a religious ceremony. The rest of the GOP better see that soon or they risk becoming obsolete.
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
    Ha ha ha.. he's not changed his views at all. The Republican Party got their asses handed to them in the Romney election. This is the beginning of damage control for mid-term and 2016. They realized their base can no longer support elitest views on all levels so they are changing their stance on several issues. Watch, and you'll see them soften their stance on other issues too.
  • Destinharbor

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    Dec 21, 2012 5:47 PM GMT
    mr_bijae saidHa ha ha.. he's not changed his views at all. The Republican Party got their asses handed to them in the Romney election. This is the beginning of damage control for mid-term and 2016. They realized their base can no longer support elitest views on all levels so they are changing their stance on several issues. Watch, and you'll see them soften their stance on other issues too.


    Only while campaigning. If they get power, they'll be as right wing crazy as ever. I think a lot of them came out of their Nazi closets this election but have learned the lesson to not say what they're thinking in public.
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
    Jesus people who gives a fuck, lets just be happy, the Republicans are moving in the right direction, with certain social issues...If people keep throwing so much hate to either side of the political spectrum, were all fucked!
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:54 PM GMT
    RadRTT saidJesus people who gives a fuck, lets just be happy, the Republicans are moving in the right direction, with certain social issues...If people keep throwing so much hate to either side of the political spectrum, were all fucked!


    Were you asleep during the Bush years? I think the better option is to constantly remind people what happens when you put Republicans in power. If you're still not sure, take a look at the news today with Boehner-- he can't even get the House Republicans to consider ANY compromise on the fiscal cliff issue.
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    Were you asleep with Clinton signed DOMA...

    Im not saying Republicans are at fault...and are not deserving of their image...but they certainly should not be compared to Nazis, who killed innocent people.

    What I am saying is that there is a sign, the Republicans, are changing their views and everyone still jumps on them negatively.
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica saidI'm a bit suspicious. " Dealing with it" doesn't necessarily mean approving of it.



    this sounds alot like their current shift on immigration and latinos. Not something they approve of or are going to change their core beliefs but rather something they know they need to do to remain politically relevant. How very plastic of them. icon_neutral.gif
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:14 PM GMT
    I will believe it when the Republicans become less about the Party of God (POG) and more about the GOP that once stood tall.
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:14 PM GMT
    RadRTT saidJesus people who gives a fuck, lets just be happy, the Republicans are moving in the right direction, with certain social issues...If people keep throwing so much hate to either side of the political spectrum, were all fucked!



    Motives mean everything in the world of politics. And it usually end with political favors for lobyists and special interest groups. And no hate involved, just suspicious that a brick wall is bending.
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:22 PM GMT
    3 years ago, Newt presented his fellow Republicans with his newest ideas on claiming the future:

    "EMBRACE ENVIRONMENTALISM" Newt suggested. He said Republicans had to accept Global Warming and to come forth with conservative ideas to fight it.

    He published his treatise on RedState.com. Virtually every one of the comments suggested that 'Newt Go Screw Himself'.

    THE NEXT DAY, Newt wrote a follow-up completely reversing his positions presented only the day before. He apologized for any misunderstanding that his original article might have caused.

    I suspect that Newt is putting forth a trial balloon to see if he can get away with this new position. With any criticism, he'll back off. Newt is a coward.

    Newt is so desperate for relevancy these days. Then again, so is the Republican Party. TOO LATE.
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:23 PM GMT
    dudewithabeard said

    this sounds alot like their current shift on immigration and latinos. Not something they approve of or are going to change their core beliefs but rather something they know they need to do to remain politically relevant. How very plastic of them. icon_neutral.gif


    Exactly, I just think it's a little bit hypocrite of them to change sides all of a sudden on several issues, but they're just flip-flopping and sadly this is politics. Playing just simple politic games with people's life.
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:30 PM GMT
    This could also put more pressure on Washington I believe to foce the federal government to recognize gay marriage if either party wants to remain in power.
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    Dec 21, 2012 6:51 PM GMT
    imbrad said He has the emotional range of a toaster ...


    Angry Toaster by Shadow IZ

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    Dec 21, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica saidI'm a bit suspicious. " Dealing with it" doesn't necessarily mean approving of it.


    I don't know if he necessarily supports it, but he realizes that there needs to be a distinction between "marriage in a church" and "legally documented by the state." It shows that he realizes that obstructing it is useless and a losing proposition. That's a huge step forward for him.
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    Dec 21, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
    His name is "Newt"?
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    Dec 21, 2012 10:29 PM GMT
    RadRTT saidWere you asleep with Clinton signed DOMA...

    Im not saying Republicans are at fault...and are not deserving of their image...but they certainly should not be compared to Nazis, who killed innocent people.

    What I am saying is that there is a sign, the Republicans, are changing their views and everyone still jumps on them negatively.


    Republicans will harm anyone for no reason other than they believe that in doing so, they will drum up support. They do it against gays, I remember them besmirching the reputation of Max CleLand, the Democratic Senator from Georgia, a quadriplegic from war injuries, by questioning his patriotism. In short they lie, harm, hurt in order to get power and when they have it, they will strike out at anyone who questions their tactics. And the Nazi reference is mainly because they elicit blind following once they have power and then do despicable things. They killed more Americans in Iraq for no good reason (and in fact negative policy consequences) than Bin Laden on 911. And a majority of Americans went along believing their President wouldn't go to war without good reason.
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    Dec 21, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    Obama was against gay marriage his entire life until last year when he realized it would be politically advantageous to flip flop and support gay marriage.
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    Dec 21, 2012 11:29 PM GMT
    RadRTT saidhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/newt-gingrich-time-has-come-405918


    Very interesting, while he still personally believes a marriage is between a man and a woman, he calls for Republicans to change their views on it.


    He knows SCOTUS will not overturn DOMA, so he's positioning himself now (as many Republicans are) as the "I care for queers" politician.

    Not one Republican in Congress is actively fighting for marriage equality, so don't let good ol' Newt fool you.

    Gingrich can rot for all I care. He's more useless than a used condom.